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Big Trade with Edmonton

Created by: Claesson4Norris
Initial Creation Date: Apr 15, 2020
Published: Apr 15, 2020 at 8:54
Team: 2020-21 Ottawa Senators
Team Explanation
No 2020 draft picks in the NHL.

Soderberg fills a gap as a vet C for one year, to replace Chris Tierney.

Braun can be a top 4 vet to play with that young LD side. Can move to 3rd pair if Zub proves ready for top 4 deployment.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse2$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brown, Connor5$4,250,000
Chlapik, Filip2$875,000
Paul, Nicholas3$1,250,000
Balcers, Rūdolfs2$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Söderberg, Carl1$4,750,000
Braun, Justin2$4,750,000
Borowiecki, Mark1$2,750,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Zub, Artyom1$925,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Tierney, Chris [RFA Rights]
  2. Duclair, Anthony [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
  • Dion Phaneuf: $1,354,167
Buried
  • Mike Reilly: $425,000 ($1,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
OTT
NYI
SJS
EDM
CBJ
DAL
NYI
OTT
WPG
OTT
TBL
SJS
STL
2021
OTT
OTT
CBJ
SJS
OTT
COL
EDM
OTT
OTT
2022
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$66,617,499$0$4,530,000$14,882,501

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
OTT
White, Colin
$4,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
OTT
Batherson, Drake
$736,666
C, RW
RFA - 1
OTT
Brown, Logan
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
OTT
Norris, Joshua
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
OTT
Brown, Connor
$4,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
OTT
Balcers, Rūdolfs
$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Söderberg, Carl
$4,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
OTT
Paul, Nicholas
$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
OTT
Chlapik, Filip
$875,000
C
UFA - 1
OTT
Ryan, Bobby
$7,250,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Ryan, Bobby
$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 8
OTT
Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
OTT
Nilsson, Anders
$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
OTT
Brännström, Erik
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
Braun, Justin
$4,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
OTT
Högberg, Marcus
$700,000
G
RFA - 1
OTT
Wolanin, Christian
$900,000
LD
RFA - 1
Zub, Artyom
$925,000
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
OTT
Anisimov, Artem
$4,550,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
OTT
Gáborík, Marián
$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
OTT
Borowiecki, Mark
$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tkachuk, B.
Brown, L.
Puljujärvi, J.
Chabot, T.
Batherson, D.
Power Play 2
Norris, J.
White, C.
Brown, C.
Brännström, E.
Wolanin, C.
Penalty Kill 1
White, C.
Brown, C.
Chabot, T.
Braun, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Söderberg, C.
Chlapik, F.
Zaitsev, N.
Zub, A.

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Apr 15, 2020 at 9:01
#1
KFTW
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Isn’t that too much to pay
Apr 15, 2020 at 9:15
#2
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Quoting: csick
Isn’t that too much to pay


Idk you could make the 2nd a 3rd, but getting Puljujarvi and a 1st is a pretty solid return. That could be a guy like Noel Gunler if he falls.
Apr 15, 2020 at 9:52
#3
Kafle
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The only way I see the oilers doing this is if both tierney and duclair sign deals for more than 2 years
Apr 15, 2020 at 10:04
#4
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Quoting: kafle22
The only way I see the oilers doing this is if both tierney and duclair sign deals for more than 2 years


They're both RFAs. EDM could have both for 8 years.

I think it could make a lot of sense for EDM, getting a real 3C let's you move Nuge to the Wing, and Duclair can play with McDavid.

Duclair-McDavid-Kassian(?)
Nuge-Draisaitl-Yammamoto
Benson-Tierney-Athanasiou

That's the best top 9 EDM has had in years.
Apr 15, 2020 at 10:10
#5
Kafle
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
They're both RFAs. EDM could have both for 8 years.

I think it could make a lot of sense for EDM, getting a real 3C let's you move Nuge to the Wing, and Duclair can play with McDavid.

Duclair-McDavid-Kassian(?)
Nuge-Draisaitl-Yammamoto
Benson-Tierney-Athanasiou

That's the best top 9 EDM has had in years.


I get that tierney could be a really good 3c in Edmonton and I would trade for him but I'm not sold on duclair. Throughout his career, he's been inconsistent
Apr 15, 2020 at 10:32
#6
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Quoting: kafle22
I get that tierney could be a really good 3c in Edmonton and I would trade for him but I'm not sold on duclair. Throughout his career, he's been inconsistent


This season Duclair proved he's a top 9 player, and one who is good enough to score 20 goals. He's not the 40 goal scorer he looked like this season before the All Star break, but he's also not that player who came back from the All Star Game having been cursed by some witch.

He was brutally unlucky the second half of the season in terms of shooting % and point production, but so did everyone on the team not named Tkachuk or Ennis. In terms of his play, he generally looked like a top six player. He was making things happen, just nothing was finding the net. And as far as defensive play, he's still not great 5v5, but DJ Smith actually turned him into an effective penalty killer as needed.
Apr 15, 2020 at 10:56
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Why would we want Puljujarvi? This is a terrible deal for Ottawa. It's essentially going up 15 spots in the draft for Tierney and Duclair.

Take out the 2nd and Ottawa might consider.
Apr 15, 2020 at 11:09
#8
Chewy69
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pulljarvis value is rlly low and i would say you need to add a 3rd to make this trade work and also ottawa loves duclair and they wouldn't trade him for an unknown
Apr 15, 2020 at 11:39
#9
Kafle
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
This season Duclair proved he's a top 9 player, and one who is good enough to score 20 goals. He's not the 40 goal scorer he looked like this season before the All Star break, but he's also not that player who came back from the All Star Game having been cursed by some witch.

He was brutally unlucky the second half of the season in terms of shooting % and point production, but so did everyone on the team not named Tkachuk or Ennis. In terms of his play, he generally looked like a top six player. He was making things happen, just nothing was finding the net. And as far as defensive play, he's still not great 5v5, but DJ Smith actually turned him into an effective penalty killer as needed.


the oilers should hold off on duclair because since they are team with limited cap space, they shouldn't take the risk given that it has a bigger chance of backfiring then trading for tierney would
Apr 16, 2020 at 1:13
#10
Talking Senators
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What will that Edmonton pick end up at? 23rd overall maybe? Ottawa will probably pick at 33? Not a huge difference really & knowing Ottawa they'll probably "reach" on a player anyways. Personally, I wouldn't trade Duclair for Puljujarvi 1 for 1. I can understand where you're coming from because I like Puljujarvi too, but it would have to be for something else.

(If we get Laf I can see Duclair being expendable tho)
Apr 16, 2020 at 1:34
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Quoting: Talking_Senators
What will that Edmonton pick end up at? 23rd overall maybe? Ottawa will probably pick at 33? Not a huge difference really & knowing Ottawa they'll probably "reach" on a player anyways. Personally, I wouldn't trade Duclair for Puljujarvi 1 for 1. I can understand where you're coming from because I like Puljujarvi too, but it would have to be for something else.

(If we get Laf I can see Duclair being expendable tho)


Doesn't have to be Ottawa's 2nd, that was just the one I picked. Large thumbs, small phone lol.

The other 2nds look to be in the late 40's to early 50's range. That's a significant jump for two guys who likely aren't going to be in Ottawa long term anyway.

I like Duclair, but I think the upside on Puljujarvi is enough that I'd be willing to make that bet. I'd also like to clear room for a guy like Balcers or Formenton to play higher in the lineup next year, and I think Logan Brown could be a really good fit as a winger next year.
Apr 16, 2020 at 3:15
#12
Talking Senators
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Doesn't have to be Ottawa's 2nd, that was just the one I picked. Large thumbs, small phone lol.

The other 2nds look to be in the late 40's to early 50's range. That's a significant jump for two guys who likely aren't going to be in Ottawa long term anyway.

I like Duclair, but I think the upside on Puljujarvi is enough that I'd be willing to make that bet. I'd also like to clear room for a guy like Balcers or Formenton to play higher in the lineup next year, and I think Logan Brown could be a really good fit as a winger next year.


Ahh lol.

I just don't know if Puljujarvi is the right fit in Ottawa. Really depends on what happens at the draft as far as next season's lineup. I think Formenton has a chance but it all depends
 
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