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3 team trade PIT-NYR-CHI

Created by: claysbar
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 17, 2020
Published: Apr. 17, 2020
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
3 team trade. PIT sends 2021 1st to NYR to send Strome to CHI and CHI sends DeBrink to PIT for POJ.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan2$2,250,000
Lafferty, Sam2$775,000
Bowey, Madison3$1,500,000
McCann, Jared3$2,650,000
Rodrigues, Evan1$1,000,000
Meloche, Nicolas2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kinkaid, Keith2$850,000
Barberio, Mark2$900,000
Trades
1.
PIT
    NYR
    1. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
    2.
    PIT
    1. DeBrincat, Alex
    CHI
    1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
    3.
    PIT
    1. Lajoie, Maxime
    2. 2020 4th round pick (OTT)
    OTT
    1. Bjugstad, Nick ($1,025,000 retained)
    2. Björkqvist, Kasper
    4.
    PIT
    1. Tuomisto, Antti [Reserve List]
    2. Bowey, Madison [RFA Rights]
    3. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
    DET
    1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
    5.
    PIT
    1. Meloche, Nicolas [RFA Rights]
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
    3. 2020 5th round pick (OTT)
    SJS
    1. Riikola, Juuso [RFA Rights]
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
    6.
    PIT
    1. Villalta, Matt
    2. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
    LAK
    1. Simon, Dominik [RFA Rights]
    2. 2020 4th round pick (OTT)
    Buyouts
    • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Nick Bjugstad: $1,025,000 (50%)
    • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$82,426,842$0$920,000-$926,842
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Zucker, Jason
    $5,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    DeBrincat, Alex
    $6,400,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 3
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    Guentzel, Jake
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
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    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    Rust, Bryan
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    Lafferty, Sam
    $775,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
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    McCann, Jared
    $2,650,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
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    Hörnqvist, Patric
    $5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Blueger, Teddy
    $750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    Tanev, Brandon
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Rodrigues, Evan
    $1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Dumoulin, Brian
    $4,100,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Letang, Kris
    $7,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Jarry, Tristan
    $2,250,000
    G
    UFA - 3
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    Pettersson, Marcus
    $4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 5
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    Marino, John
    $925,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    DeSmith, Casey
    $1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    Lajoie, Maxime
    $710,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Bowey, Madison
    $1,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Barberio, Mark
    $900,000
    LD
    UFA
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    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
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    So Debrincat to Pittsburgh for Strome & POJ? I don’t think Chicago does it.
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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    So Debrincat to Pittsburgh for Strome & POJ? I don’t think Chicago does it.


    What do you think needs added?
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.
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    That trade is a joke right?
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Torontoleafs15
    That trade is a joke right?


    If you have nothing constructive to offer, move along.
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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: claysbar
    If you have nothing constructive to offer, move along.


    Why cause of my curiosity of if this a joke? There are a lot jokes on this sight.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:53 p.m.
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    Detroit declines. Since winning the cup Murray 30th in GAA and 32nd in SV%. Now maybe Detroit trades Bowey but Tuomisto isn't going anywhere. The only way Yzerman trades that 2nd round pick is for something really big.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:53 p.m.
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    So NYR trade a 1st and Strome and get nothing?

    lol
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Detroit declines. Since winning the cup Murray 30th in GAA and 32nd in SV%. Now maybe Detroit trades Bowey but Tuomisto isn't going anywhere. The only way Yzerman trades that 2nd round pick is for something really big.


    I get that on Tuomisto but that EDM 2nd doesn't look to be anything special considering they are getting a starting goalie with a couple of Cups when they have NO goaltending to speak of. I'd be willing to add within reason, what you looking for?
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 6:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    So NYR trade a 1st and Strome and get nothing?

    lol


    NYR gets PIT's 1st.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: claysbar
    What do you think needs added?


    Add one of Poulin / Hallander & 2022 1st, maybe they consider it. I still doubt it. Debrincat is a 40 goal scorer like Jake.
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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: claysbar
    NYR gets PIT's 1st.


    For Ryan Strome?

    So Debrincat = Strome + POJ?

    lol
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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: claysbar
    What do you think needs added?



    Wouldnt even do Debrincat for Guentzel let alone a bust in POJ lol delete your thread
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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Add one of Poulin / Hallander & 2022 1st, maybe they consider it. I still doubt it. Debrincat is a 40 goal scorer like Jake.


    If either of those three are added, a little something minor needs to come back. Lets say they add Poulin and CHI adds Jake Ryczek and a 3rd.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
    Wouldnt even do Debrincat for Guentzel let alone a bust in POJ lol delete your thread


    Move along
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    For Ryan Strome?

    So Debrincat = Strome + POJ?

    lol


    Move along
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Add one of Poulin / Hallander & 2022 1st, maybe they consider it. I still doubt it. Debrincat is a 40 goal scorer like Jake.


    Didnt even mention DeBrincat can actually drove his line and potted 77pts while Guentzel was a 30pt player without Crosby and Malkin on top of being a lot younger.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.
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    POJ is worth maybe a late 2nd rd pick
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: claysbar
    If either of those three are added, a little something minor needs to come back. Lets say they add Poulin and CHI adds Jake Ryczek and a 3rd.


    No there isnt at all you are trading a 22 yeardold 40 goal scorer that can actually drive a line (unlike Jake) for an undersized Dmen that cant even dominate the Q in his draft +3 season. Poulin, Hallinder plus 2 firsts is the bare minimum..
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
    Didnt even mention DeBrincat can actually drove his line and potted 77pts while Guentzel was a 30pt player without Crosby and Malkin on top of being a lot younger.


    DeBrink has never scored more than 76 points in the NHL and JG has never scored less than 33 points in any season (even partial) so yeah...move along.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
    Didnt even mention DeBrincat can actually drove his line and potted 77pts while Guentzel was a 30pt player without Crosby and Malkin on top of being a lot younger.


    And then followed the 76 point season with 45 points in 70 games while Guentzel had 43 points in 39 games
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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
    Didnt even mention DeBrincat can actually drove his line and potted 77pts while Guentzel was a 30pt player without Crosby and Malkin on top of being a lot younger.


    Gonna push back on you a bit there...Debrincat has spent about half of his career next to Toews or Kane.

    Cat's shooting talent is off the charts, but so is Guentzel's.

    Guentzel has better numbers when it comes to shot generation, but a lot of that has to do with Pitt simply having possession a lot more.

    I'd give a slight edge to Debrincat, but it's in the ballpark honestly.

    I have no stake in this argument. But looking at how Zucker's numbers shot up in Pitt, it's not ridiculous to think that Debrincat would have a similar bump and vice versa with Guentzel.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: claysbar
    DeBrink has never scored more than 76 points in the NHL and JG has never scored less than 33 points in any season (even partial) so yeah...move along.



    77 instead of 76 that is your big counter? Still besides the point that Guentzel struggled in 2018 when he didnt have Crosby to hold his hand to help him. He is not even a 25 goal scorer away from Sid/Geno. All the while being worse than DeBrincat since his rookie year. There isnt anything that makes Chi do this trade delete your account so you can stop plaguing this board with your low intelligence.

    Move along and tap the logout button now.
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
    77 instead of 76 that is your big counter? Still besides the point that Guentzel struggled in 2018 when he didnt have Crosby to hold his hand to help him. He is not even a 25 goal scorer away from Sid/Geno. All the while being worse than DeBrincat since his rookie year. There isnt anything that makes Chi do this trade delete your account so you can stop plaguing this board with your low intelligence.

    Move along and tap the logout button now.


    Move along
    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
    And then followed the 76 point season with 45 points in 70 games while Guentzel had 43 points in 39 games


    And yet he is still the worse of the 2 for their last 3 seasons. Guentzel needed Sid to hit 40 DeBrincat hit 40 being the best player on his line. Guentzel is also already 26 he isnt going to get any better while Cat is 22.

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    Gonna push back on you a bit there...Debrincat has spent about half of his career next to Toews or Kane.

    Cat's shooting talent is off the charts, but so is Guentzel's.

    Guentzel has better numbers when it comes to shot generation, but a lot of that has to do with Pitt simply having possession a lot more.

    I'd give a slight edge to Debrincat, but it's in the ballpark honestly.

    I have no stake in this argument. But looking at how Zucker's numbers shot up in Pitt, it's not ridiculous to think that Debrincat would have a similar bump and vice versa with Guentzel.


    DeBrincat never spent significant time with Kane. 2018 they never saw a shift

    2019 He was with Strome and Perlini for the vast majority of the season.
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    Apr. 17, 2020 at 7:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
    And yet he is still the worse of the 2 for their last 3 seasons. Guentzel needed Sid to hit 40 DeBrincat hit 40 being the best player on his line. Guentzel is also already 26 he isnt going to get any better while Cat is 22.

    .


    Thats one of the dumbest things I ever read. A guy who is in his 3rd full season isn't going to get better because hes 26? And if Guentzel only scored 40 because of Crosby, why is their other lineman, Dom Simon, unable to score 10? And what about this year without Crosby. He was on pace to have another 40 goal year. Let me guess, it was because of Malkin right? Plus its funny how youre saying Guentzel only scored 40 because of Sid, but look what happened when Cat isn't on a line with any HOF'ers
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