LMAO Reinhart is significantly better than Mantha

wut

This was suppose to be that year for mantha but he got hurt......again. he's just been the ultimate tease really. When he's engaged he's a heavy sniper who can skate and impose his will all over the ice. When he isn't you can see he's way to casual with the puck and he gets hurt. Personally idk how you move him but it's a good offer. I'd take hill but I'd think they move raanta if they can instead.

Rangers decline...

It's not even close

it's a merge of two trades that received some favor in the past.

mostly the hajek for hirose trade has gained positive attention from both teams.

does the andersson for svechnikov part not work?

mind giving some insight rather than simple statements? Anyone can say something isn't close.

Mantha's injury history is worse. Yeah. But when he was healthy this year he was clearly detroit's best player. Essentially a point per game on a team that couldn't score at all. Reinhart has long had better linemates. Eichel is far better than Larkin. Still, both players have hit points in a similar range throughout their careers, and where Reinhart was better, he also played more games.
Obviously there's more to their games than just points - but it is not easy to evaluate Mantha's defensive game on a team as brutal as detroit. He provides a physical upgrade on BUF, which matches that Reinhart can play center.
Both players could benefit from a scenery move. Mantha has the value tipped his way due to his overall ceiling being higher with elite linemates.

He's more durable, he's younger, he has outscored him every single year and is a better all around player. How's that?

i'll give you "more durable". There's a year difference in age - hardly enough to matter.

Read my edit in the previous post which answers the other part.

Reinhart is better and this trade has buffalo also giving up a 1st and a decent prospect. Not just no, but hell no

I'm not content with your explanation.
Sounds like you are just stating "he is better because he is better". A healthy Mantha appears far superior to Reinhart.

I am fully willing to be proven wrong - my entire goal of these posts is to find as close to value as possible for trades. I think there's a bit of fan bias in your assessment of Reinhart. Thompson seems like a bust now anyways.
If anything, I would be willing to drop the 1st and 3rd and replace it with a 2nd from Buf.

tbh either way it doesn't really make sense for the Rangers.

Yes Andersson is a better player than Svechnikov right now AND he's also 2 years younger.

Similar situation with Hajek, he's about equal to Hirose right now.....AND he's also 2 years younger.

Rangers decline.

I thought the Rangers needed another LW? And have an absolute plethora of LD? I understand the forward swap not working.

Hirose could slot into the 3LW spot. It's hard to evaluate how good he is due to his linemates being of an AHL level, but when he had time with some of the better players he fit well. Rangers have too many guys on LD, so it seems like at least one should be moved in a linear swap, no? Perhaps Rykov for Hirose is a better swap?

Tossing that 1st in even protected skews the deal to heavily

At the point tage Thompson is at his career Anthony Mantha had played 10 NHL games. Thompson has played over 100

Martha was drafted 7 years ago and still doesnt have a 50 point season, Reinhart is better, this isn't hard

Yikes Edmundson on top pair

Hirose had Perlini and Nielsen as his 2 most common linemates this year. Lias Andersson would KILL for that lol.

But seriously, Hirose's issues are mainly in his own end where he's pretty poor.

I'm skeptical that Hirose can beat out Lemieux or frankly even Di Giuseppe at LW next year.

Your premise is correct that Rangers have a ton of LD and are short on Wingers. But Hirose is too low of a target. Hajek has a very good rep around the league, they could net more in a package.

if it was a 2nd instead would it be fair?

everything about detroit's defense is a yikes.

If they want to sign anyone it will have to be an overpay. Even then, they're only going to fetch middle of the pack defenders at most.

No. It wouldnt.

Imo no.

I’ve all but given up on Cholo but he still has way more value than Hill’s rights... Hill is projected to be a fringe backup at best.

Hill is looking more like a starter. His performance was very good last year and he is only 23.

Having done this the other day re: Mantha and Reinhart, I’ll comment on that trade. They are both in a weird spot RFA wise. They didn’t get long term deals as youngsters, and they aren’t quite to UFA status, but both deserve higher dollar deals. They are both about the same age, have 1 year left of RFA. Reinhart has played more games (he started younger than Tony), but Tony is a much larger player (which every metric and scout will tell you takes longer to develop their skating legs).

Mantha scores at a higher rate (.66 vs .63 for Reinhart), but Reinhart plays a premier position (C vs RW). Tony is a true RW though, with may be the 2nd hardest position to fill on a team (with RHD being the first). If you look at pure RWs throughout the league, there aren’t many that would be consider as elite (Kucherov comes to mind, but most top wingers play LW).

Sam has an issue that he’ll never get a chance to be a #1 C in BUF (though, he won’t in DET either, Larkin is way ahead of Reinhart in counting and advanced stats). No one knows for sure if #2 C is his peak, or if there is more in him. DET doesn’t need Reinhart as much as they need Tony, with Veleno and Rasmussen in the farm (and who knows where Berregen will play, he’s played LW and C in the SHL). While BUF has other C options, Reinhart is actually part of the solution (the problem is in goal and on D).

The trade listed above heavily favors DET, but if you take out the picks, it would be a lot closer (Thompson is just a throw-in, he’s going to end up a AHL/NHL bounce around). But neither team wants to make that trade, because it just creates other issues for the respective teams.

Warrior you have no clue about Detroit stop embarrassing yourself!