How Does The General Hockey Community View Jack Johnson

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Created by: AnalyticsGeek

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 21, 2020

Published: Apr. 21, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I don’t understand the deal with Jack Johnson, he’s such a polarizing player. This season, he has been praised highly by the team’s front office and media regarding his play, but there are also fans who believe he is really bad at what he does. Based on what I see watching him game in & game out, JJ has a really hard time moving the puck out of the defensive zone. He’s not very quick or sharp & struggles immensely under pressure. He has trouble defending the front of the net as he always misses out on the guy he’s supposed to mark & gets walked around frequently. It seems most times when he’s on the ice, the team gets stuck in their own end. According to the stats, the team concedes a lopsided percentage of shots & scoring chances when he’s on the ice. I really don’t see how he is good. He shouldn’t continue playing for this team.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dermott, Travis	2	$2,125,000
McCann, Jared	3	$3,125,000
Simon, Dominik	2	$1,850,000
Jarry, Tristan	2	$2,250,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Craig		2	$4,125,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kinvall, Johannes		2	$925,000

Trades

PIT

Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]

TOR

Johnson, Jack ($1,000,000 retained)
Riikola, Juuso [RFA Rights]
2020 4th round pick (PIT)

PIT

2020 6th round pick (NJD)

NJD

Bjugstad, Nick

Retained Salary Transactions

Jack Johnson: $1,000,000 (86.96%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$77,752,675	$0	$1,062,500	$3,747,325

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Smith, Craig $4,125,000$4,125,000 RW UFA - 3
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Simon, Dominik $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	McCann, Jared $3,125,000$3,125,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $2,250,000$2,250,000 G UFA - 3
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD UFA - 5	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 2
	Kinvall, Johannes $925,000$925,000
Dermott, Travis $2,125,000$2,125,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Poulin, Samuel $894,167$894,167 C, LW RFA - 4
Légaré, Nathan $795,000$795,000 RW RFA - 4
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2

Apr. 22, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.

#51

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

Imagine thinking Marner & Kane are even comparable. You do realize that Kane is the greatest offensive talent to ever play the game, right? He doesn’t need to play a physical & defensively sound game cuz his skill & scoring makes up for it. Marner on the other hand, has weak offensive skill, he’s soft in the dirty areas & is non existent defensively. Just a terrible player all around. I looked at his analytics & they are god awful, no where near Kane. You really need to stop being a homer, it’s embarassing the Leafs’ fanbase & Canadians in general. Also, don’t even mention Panarin. The only reason why that guy is even in the league is cuz Kane carried him for 2 seasons. Also, in Columbus he was heavily reliant on Atkinson just like Marner is on Matthews.

Lmao this is fantastic

kanexpa88

You truly hate to see it.

Apr. 22, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.

#52

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

Joined: Nov. 2019

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Quoting: Jack_

Lmao this is fantastic

kanexpa88

You truly hate to see it.

That’s what I said. Marner stinks defensively.

Apr. 22, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.

#53

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

Here's the last one that didnt fit. Yikes dude I didnt know anyone could be this delusional

Apr. 22, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.

#54

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

That’s what I said. Marner stinks defensively.

I posted his offensive numbers

Quoting: Jack_

Here's the last one that didnt fit. Yikes dude I didnt know anyone could be this delusional

Apr. 22, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.

#55

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

Joined: Feb. 2018

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Quoting: Jack_

Lmao this is fantastic

kanexpa88

You truly hate to see it.

Quoting: Jack_

Here's the last one that didnt fit. Yikes dude I didnt know anyone could be this delusional

Quoting: HattrickKane88

That’s what I said. Marner stinks defensively.

Theres all 3. Kane is a net negative and marner is +26 overall. Marner is far far far better defensively and way better offensively

Apr. 22, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.

#56

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

Joined: Nov. 2019

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Quoting: Jack_

Theres all 3. Kane is a net negative and marner is +26 overall. Marner is far far far better defensively and way better offensively

You’re the one who is delusional. You don’t even factor in the fact that Marner plays with better players. He gets carried by Matthews who is the best center in the league. Kane has to carry two useless guys in Nylander& Strome.

Apr. 22, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

#57

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

Joined: Feb. 2018

Posts: 4,768

Likes: 1,626

Quoting: HattrickKane88

He played 1 season with matthews. His previous two years were even better. If hes the best player ever he should be able to score no matter what. Gretzky had terrible linemates an more defensive era and he was still the best player to ever play in the nhl. I know you're trolling but you're doing a terrible job kiddo

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Apr. 22, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.

#58

Jack_

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@HattrickKane88 where'd you go buddy? I was enjoying myself laughing at you

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Apr. 22, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.

#59

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

Joined: Nov. 2019

Posts: 293

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Quoting: Jack_

@HattrickKane88 where'd you go buddy? I was enjoying myself laughing at you

Patrick Kane is by far the greatest hockey player of all time and anyone who disagrees should jump off a tall skyscraper. We need to just accept that this guy is at the top in every category. Not only is he the best scorer, he’s also the greatest playmaker as he creates space with vision no one has ever seen before. He’s the best at stick handling, deking and dangling past opponents with highlight reel worthy skills. Everything he does is out of this world, there has simply never been a more brilliant player. There should be no more doubts that this guy is number one.

Apr. 22, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.

#60

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

Joined: Feb. 2018

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

Hes not going to see this and hes not going to **** you so you dont have to lie to yourself. As of right now hes not the best playmaker, he doesn't have the best vision and he doesnt have the best hands. If he did then he would have the best on ice results but guess what. He doesn't. Its unfortunate that you think this because hes not even a top 50 player to play in the nhl.

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Apr. 22, 2020 at 5:58 p.m.

#61

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

Joined: Nov. 2019

Posts: 293

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Quoting: Jack_

Tell me who is the best then?

Apr. 22, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.

#62

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

Tell me who is the best then?

Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby and Orr are all far better. Malkin is better then kane

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Apr. 22, 2020 at 6:52 p.m.

#63

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

Joined: Nov. 2019

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Quoting: Jack_

Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby and Orr are all far better. Malkin is better then kane

Gretzky, Lemieux & Orr played in an extremely low level & uncompetitive era. Even a peewee player today would be better than them. Crosby & Malkin are overrated. They’ve only had this much success cuz they have he luxury of playing alongside elite players like Kessel, Guentzel & Rust.

Apr. 22, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.

#64

Jack_

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

Lol ok buddy you're in denial. There is absolutely nothing that proves athletes were actually any worse then current day athletes.

Malkin didnt play with these guys much at all. The only reason kane is any good is because of panarin and Toews

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Apr. 22, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.

#65

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

Joined: Nov. 2019

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Quoting: Jack_

Malkin led the playoffs in scoring playing with Kessel & he’s having a career year in production playing with Rust & Guentzel. You’re the one in denial. I would take prime Kessler over Toews & Kessel over Panarin.

Apr. 22, 2020 at 7:01 p.m.

#66

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

Joined: Feb. 2018

Posts: 4,768

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

Theres no point in arguing with you if you dont even open your eyes and take a look around. Kane isnt a top 50 player in the nhl today much less all time

Apr. 22, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.

#67

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

Joined: Nov. 2019

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Quoting: Jack_

Theres no point in arguing with you if you dont even open your eyes and take a look around. Kane isnt a top 50 player in the nhl today much less all time

I don’t understand why you think Kane ain’t top 50.

Apr. 22, 2020 at 9:04 p.m.

#68

Unbeleafable

Maple Leafs Believer

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

I don't think you know hockey, like at all

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Apr. 23, 2020 at 12:19 a.m.

#69

Jack_

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Edited Apr. 23, 2020 at 12:26 a.m.

Quoting: HattrickKane88

I don’t understand why you think Kane ain’t top 50.

You not just a clown, you're the whole circus. John Tavares is better then Kane buddy. It must hurt because deep down you know Canada is better then the States

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Apr. 23, 2020 at 7:29 p.m.

#70

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

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Quoting: Jack_

You not just a clown, you're the whole circus. John Tavares is better then Kane buddy. It must hurt because deep down you know Canada is better then the States

John Tavares is simply not an established NHL player. He failed to guide the Islanders to a single Stanley Cup title, he even struggled to get them consistently into the playoffs. He is not a winner, he can’t lead a team to glory as their number one player. He has no character, no leadership and no talent, he only finds success when carried by players better than him like Auston Matthews and Anders Lee. If Tavares is truly a successful and well respected player, he would’ve stayed with the team that drafted him and got them to victory. There is no way we can call Tavares a star. Patrick Kane is better than him.

Apr. 23, 2020 at 7:47 p.m.

#71

Jack_

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Quoting: HattrickKane88

Not at all. Calling kane better then Tavares is like saying McDavid isnt the best player in the nhl or the US is better then Canada. Its just not true at all

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Apr. 23, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.

#72

HattrickKane88

PatrickKaneIsGOAT

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Quoting: Jack_

Not at all. Calling kane better then Tavares is like saying McDavid isnt the best player in the nhl or the US is better then Canada. Its just not true at all

Can Tavares skate as good as Kane? Nope. Can he stick handle? Nope. Was Tavares the leader in points for this decade? Nope. So what makes Tavares the better player? Huh?

Connor McDavid has been overhyped since his days with the Erie Otters. He hasn’t achieved anything in hockey to prove he is a generational talent. He’s only made the playoffs once in 4 seasons and couldn’t even win the OHL title back in junior when he was carried by Alex DeBrincat. It’s easy to think he’s a great player because of the way he skates but he isn’t capable of doing anything with the puck on his stick. He can’t deke or dangle past anyone and is a liability defensively. Patrick Kane in his prime was miles better than Connor McDavid will ever be.

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