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Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 20, 2020
Published: Apr. 23, 2020
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1$700,000
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2021 1st round pick
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Apr. 23, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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Montreal isn’t taking that crappie deal. Why not put a 2056 first round pick in that deal. They had better pffer on the table at the deadline from Carolina and turn it down ( Bean and a first round pick) Winnipeg would have to do a lot better if they want to acquire him
Apr. 23, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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Petry is worth more than that. Even for one year as I don't think Montreal wants to trade him. To be honest I think tampa matches that. It would have to be 6.5 for them not to
Apr. 23, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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Trade Niku and re-sign Demelo
Apr. 23, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Montreal isn’t taking that crappie deal. Why not put a 2056 first round pick in that deal. They had better pffer on the table at the deadline from Carolina and turn it down ( Bean and a first round pick) Winnipeg would have to do a lot better if they want to acquire him


Montreal rejected that Carolina deal? Are they insane? Oh wait that’s the same guy that traded Sergachev and made some questionable deals
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Apr. 23, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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stop giving us perreault
Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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For Cirelli to sign any offer sheet from a Canadian team, It would probably need to be in the $7m+ range doubt $6 million cuts it. He can take $5 million in Tampa and still take home more then $6 million in Winnipeg.
Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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stop giving us perreault


No
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Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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Montreal isn’t taking that crappie deal. Why not put a 2056 first round pick in that deal. They had better pffer on the table at the deadline from Carolina and turn it down ( Bean and a first round pick) Winnipeg would have to do a lot better if they want to acquire him


Yikes really stupid it that’s actually what Carolina offered and mtl didn’t take it.. and 2056 like what..?
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Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:13 a.m.
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Montreal isn’t taking that crappie deal. Why not put a 2056 first round pick in that deal. They had better pffer on the table at the deadline from Carolina and turn it down ( Bean and a first round pick) Winnipeg would have to do a lot better if they want to acquire him


Just read into that now...that's insane in my opinion that MTL didn't take the offer...
Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: csick
Montreal rejected that Carolina deal? Are they insane? Oh wait that’s the same guy that traded Sergachev and made some questionable deals


Bergevin have been probably the best Gm when it come to trade around the league. Yes Sergachev was a mistake but that was probably the only one he made with is trade history.
He landed Suzuki,Tatar and Norlinder and leguerrier for Pacioretty, got Danault and Romanov for Fleischman and Weise, trade plekanec for Jacob Olofsson and Valiev who was traded back for Kulak. Traded Galchenyuk for Domi. Start to look like a genius for trading Weber for Subban. Even when he was buyers at the deadline he made some great deal Thomas Vanek was acquire for Collberg and a second round pick Vanek was almost a ppg back then, he got from edmonton Petry for a second round pick.
The sergachev deal is probably the only one that for the moment won’t turn into is favor.
That being said he have been horrible at signing free agent that is the biggest issues Bergevin had.
Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:18 a.m.
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Edited Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
Quoting: Sebybbq
Montreal isn’t taking that crappie deal. Why not put a 2056 first round pick in that deal. They had better pffer on the table at the deadline from Carolina and turn it down ( Bean and a first round pick) Winnipeg would have to do a lot better if they want to acquire him

I feel like Bergevin must've been held away from the phone by Julien for not taking this offer, I'd say it's a pretty tempting one. Bean's basically NHL ready and at almost a ppg in the AHL he's very promising, our defense would've been really but I mean really bad to finish 2020 but a second pairing RD could've easily been signed as a UFA to patch the hole. I think one of the reason is that he's already pretty set future wise on the left side but who else could he counter offer with? Suzuki maybe, don't think he's dumb enough to ask for Slavin so basically Zook's brother I don't see anyone else.
If I was the GM it would've been a done deal with no cap retention and I'd just sign Shattenkirk or trade for a RD elsewhere with my bunch of picks.

Quoting: csick
Montreal rejected that Carolina deal? Are they insane? Oh wait that’s the same guy that traded Sergachev and made some questionable deals

And fleeced Chicago (Danault), Edmonton (Petry) and Arizona (Domi). Yeah he's bad.

Edit: One thing I'd say he's bad at is not knowing when it's time to sell high before the value drops. Guys like McCarron and Sherback were traded for peanuts and luckily Arizona made an incredible offer otherwise the same thing would've happened and I do think he missed this one on Petry because his value could very well go down (Obviously one less playoff push at a discount price).
Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
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Just read into that now...that's insane in my opinion that MTL didn't take the offer...


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Yikes really stupid it that’s actually what Carolina offered and mtl didn’t take it.. and 2056 like what..?


Montreal have plan to extend him there nothing stupid in keeping a top 4 defenseman who have been great for them the past 4 season. Bean is not looking that good anymore he even have fall off the Carolina prospect depth chart. Petry is 17th in point by defenseman in the last 3 season, 26th in ice time, 4th for game winning goal, 49th for blockshot, 9th in hits and have had a excellent corsi ratio for most of is career even more in the past 4 year. Not sure why the habs should trade him and not ask for a high return, he have put himself in the elite category. Not saying he is elite but he have put number that can be compare with the best .
Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.
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hmmmm which french guy can I trade to MTL so they will take a awful deal???
every team keeps a french guy for this purpose
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Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
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I feel like Bergevin must've been held away from the phone by Julien for not taking this offer, I'd say it's a pretty tempting one. Bean's basically NHL ready and at almost a ppg in the AHL he's very promising, our defense would've been really but I mean really bad to finish 2020 but a second pairing RD could've easily been signed as a UFA to patch the hole. I think one of the reason is that he's already pretty set future wise on the left side but who else could he counter offer with? Suzuki maybe, don't think he's dumb enough to ask for Slavin so basically Zook's brother I don't see anyone else.
If I was the GM it would've been a done deal with no cap retention and I'd just sign Shattenkirk or trade for a RD elsewhere with my bunch of picks.


Trading Petry would have make sense for is if Bergevin have been in full rebuilt mode. Montreal are closer to a playoff spot then people think. Analytics have shown that Montreal have been a very good possession team and have created lot more chance that they allowed. The main concern was their turnovers ratio and the high end scoring chance they have allowed. They where a bottom team for grade A scoring chance allowed. If they can fix that next season, have a progression from Kotkaniemi, Suzuki and Poehling and can stay healthy they will be in the mix for a playoff spot for sure. Ifthey can get that much needed top lefthanded defenseman that will make them very solid.
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Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.
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Montreal rejected that Carolina deal? Are they insane? Oh wait that’s the same guy that traded Sergachev and made some questionable deals


I still dont get why people think Berg is a terrible GM. its kind of like how Nickelback is widely hated, yet 90% of people will tap their foot if the song is in the background.

Lets go through his bad trades:
Serg for Drouin...pretty obvious why.
maybe Cammileri for Bourque..
Kassian for Scrivens...but this had to happen to save Kassians Career. if it wasn't for MTL, Kassian wouldn't have figured it out in EDM.
Shaw for 2 2nds. one of those picks was DeBrincat
signing Alzner
signing Price to that long term contract
honestly, this is all i could find when i go...wait what the F..


his good trades:
Subban for Weber (no debate anymore)
a 4th and 2nd for Petry(thanks)
Weise and Fleischmann for a 2nd(picked Romanov) and Danault
Galchenyuk for Domi
Patchs for Tatar and Suzuki
4th for scandella and then sold scandella a moth later for a 2nd and 2 4ths
Kovy for a 3rd

things to look forward too:
Trading Petry for a 1st and A prospect(that is his price, not doubt about it)
trading Tatar for a 1st or a good prospect(good B prospect)

so honestly, he isnt as bad as everyone tries to say he is
Apr. 23, 2020 at 11:58 a.m.
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I still dont get why people think Berg is a terrible GM. its kind of like how Nickelback is widely hated, yet 90% of people will tap their foot if the song is in the background.

Lets go through his bad trades:
Serg for Drouin...pretty obvious why.
maybe Cammileri for Bourque..
Kassian for Scrivens...but this had to happen to save Kassians Career. if it wasn't for MTL, Kassian wouldn't have figured it out in EDM.
Shaw for 2 2nds. one of those picks was DeBrincat
signing Alzner
signing Price to that long term contract
honestly, this is all i could find when i go...wait what the F..


his good trades:
Subban for Weber (no debate anymore)
a 4th and 2nd for Petry(thanks)
Weise and Fleischmann for a 2nd(picked Romanov) and Danault
Galchenyuk for Domi
Patchs for Tatar and Suzuki
4th for scandella and then sold scandella a moth later for a 2nd and 2 4ths
Kovy for a 3rd

things to look forward too:
Trading Petry for a 1st and A prospect(that is his price, not doubt about it)
trading Tatar for a 1st or a good prospect(good B prospect)

so honestly, he isnt as bad as everyone tries to say he is


Im just not convinced you can trade Petry and Tatar for that especially with both being rentals.
Apr. 23, 2020 at 12:01 p.m.
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Apr. 23, 2020 at 12:02 p.m.
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Im just not convinced you can trade Petry and Tatar for that especially with both being rentals.


Both will be 1st and something minor as long as thier healthy when traded.

That Carolina deal was a rumor not fact but if it was speculated with it that MTL actually liked the deal but wanted Torontos pick, not Carolinas which they weren't willing to do.
Apr. 23, 2020 at 12:03 p.m.
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Montreal rejected that Carolina deal? Are they insane? Oh wait that’s the same guy that traded Sergachev and made some questionable deals


Look I see why people think he's awful but other than that trade, he has consistently bought low and sold high. He acquired Armia and Mason for Bourque and a 7th, Danault and a 2nd (Romanov btw) for Weise and Fleischmann, Petry for a 2nd, Domi for Chucky (look where he is), Zuks, Tatar and a 2nd for Patches, Webs for Subban.
Also, he's done a great job drafting players lower than their value (Romanov, Norlinder, Primeau, Harris, Caufield, Brook, Mete), developping one of the elite prospect pools in the league.
He has made some bad moves along the way but not to be forgotten, on your end in Ottawa, you have the worst owner in the league, one of the most depressing fan bases rn, a depleted roster and unfortunately, you really should have a much better prospect pool than us but we have pretty almost similar talent. Let's also not forget your Duchene trade (I really like Bowen Byram btw), Zibanejad trade (yikes, just needed a decent team around him i guess lmao). Didn't mean to attack your team but I hate that other teams forget his good moves all the time.
Apr. 23, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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Im just not convinced you can trade Petry and Tatar for that especially with both being rentals.


Tatars comparison from last years trade deadline : toffoli
Toffoli(27) NHL Totals Gp525 G145 A155 P300
Tatar(29) NHL Totals GP575 G166 A181 P347

Toffolli traded for Madden(B level Prospect), a AHL player, 2nd, and 4th.

so pretty compariable. only thing people could hang their hat on is the age. but as a rental, 29 and 27, there is no difference.

and their was no dman that are comparable to Petry traded this year. so maybe Muzzin's value? or close too. Petry over the last 3 years has had over 40 points every season, plays every situation.
There is an arguement to be had that MTL shouldnt trade him. I think they should tho.
Apr. 23, 2020 at 12:19 p.m.
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I still dont get why people think Berg is a terrible GM. its kind of like how Nickelback is widely hated, yet 90% of people will tap their foot if the song is in the background.

Lets go through his bad trades:
Serg for Drouin...pretty obvious why.
maybe Cammileri for Bourque..
Kassian for Scrivens...but this had to happen to save Kassians Career. if it wasn't for MTL, Kassian wouldn't have figured it out in EDM.
Shaw for 2 2nds. one of those picks was DeBrincat
signing Alzner
signing Price to that long term contract
honestly, this is all i could find when i go...wait what the F..


his good trades:
Subban for Weber (no debate anymore)
a 4th and 2nd for Petry(thanks)
Weise and Fleischmann for a 2nd(picked Romanov) and Danault
Galchenyuk for Domi
Patchs for Tatar and Suzuki
4th for scandella and then sold scandella a moth later for a 2nd and 2 4ths
Kovy for a 3rd

things to look forward too:
Trading Petry for a 1st and A prospect(that is his price, not doubt about it)
trading Tatar for a 1st or a good prospect(good B prospect)

so honestly, he isnt as bad as everyone tries to say he is


Cammalleri was traded by Pierre Gauthier so you can pull that out of there and Shaw did actually well in is time with the habs and he got back almost the same return that he paid for.
Apr. 23, 2020 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Im just not convinced you can trade Petry and Tatar for that especially with both being rentals.


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Tatars comparison from last years trade deadline : toffoli
Toffoli(27) NHL Totals Gp525 G145 A155 P300
Tatar(29) NHL Totals GP575 G166 A181 P347

Toffolli traded for Madden(B level Prospect), a AHL player, 2nd, and 4th.

so pretty compariable. only thing people could hang their hat on is the age. but as a rental, 29 and 27, there is no difference.

and their was no dman that are comparable to Petry traded this year. so maybe Muzzin's value? or close too. Petry over the last 3 years has had over 40 points every season, plays every situation.
There is an arguement to be had that MTL shouldnt trade him. I think they should tho.

For both of you above. In a world where Blake Coleman lands you a 1st and Nolan Foote nothing's impossible.

Quoting: Subbanator7667
Both will be 1st and something minor as long as thier healthy when traded.

That Carolina deal was a rumor not fact but if it was speculated with it that MTL actually liked the deal but wanted Torontos pick, not Carolinas which they weren't willing to do.

Marc just wanted to pick a future hall of famer with our ennemy's pick.
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Apr. 27, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Cammalleri was traded by Pierre Gauthier so you can pull that out of there and Shaw did actually well in is time with the habs and he got back almost the same return that he paid for.


omg your right. see even I get confused. I personally liked Shaw when he was healthy. Just never seemed to be 100%.
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Apr. 27, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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omg your right. see even I get confused. I personally liked Shaw when he was healthy. Just never seemed to be 100%.


That probably the major reason they trade him back to Chicago because Shaw when he is healthy is a very good hockey player.
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