Quoting: Sebybbq
That doesn’t mean that your crazy evaluation make sense. Mantha isn’t a super star and is value is not as high as you think. Evander Kane was traded for a 1st round pick a 4th and Daniel O’Reagan, the Red Wings would received something in that range. If Yzerman would received a call from Bergevin and was receiving the 8th overall , a second round pick and Mete he would immediately step on that because he isn’t a moron. He know that Mantha doesn’t have this kind of value at all.
While I agree Mantha is not a superstar and may never be one, he has value to his team. They see him as a building block not as an asset to trade for futures. Wings are in the midst of a rebuild, no doubt and they probably and hopefully have been at the bottom and they can revive their playoff aspirations going forward.
Mete and Byron alone are not getting Mantha, and the pick is probably to high, that is why this trade without or with the pick makes zero sense for both teams in either scenario.
Wings are in a tough position, if they trade Mantha for futures, it delays the rebuild, that is why I hate seeing trades for Larkin, Hronek, Bertuzzi or Mantha. If you start trading young promising players for future picks, older players(Palmieri) or a combination of both it starts a cycle of whereas you are in a never ending rebuild. GM Yzerman understands and probably has drawn a line in the sand and moving forward, certain players are untouchable or at least it would take a big offer to trade one of the afore mentioned players for picks and/or top prospects. I have read on this site where trade Larkin for future picks to help in the rebuild. Sure and two problems, one the players we draft may never turn out to be as good and it sets the rebuild back as those players if they turn out to be good could take 3 to 5 years to make it to the NHL.
Again I am not saying any of the players I sited are superstars, good sure, high ceilings yes, yet to make that jump to top players, yes. If there was a players to trade out of the group, Mantha is the likely one to go, but his value is hard to set as the value to one team and the value to Wings are so different.