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Testing Someone Elses Trade Proposal

Created by: Viqsi
Initial Creation Date: May 7, 2020
Published: May 7, 2020 at 3:18
Team: 2020-21 Columbus Blue Jackets
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The Nylander trade came from here: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/325476
I just threw this together to demonstrate that it fits for Columbus. (Whether or not it fits for the Leafs is a different story. Note that the Nylander proposal was made in the context of the Leafs opening up cap to make room for Pietrangelo.)

The Murray trade is an ad-hoc thing that I was greedy on; we really only need to trim off about $2M or so (just over $500K above the cap, plus some wiggle room). Doesn't need to be Montreal, either. I considered having us take back Kulak to make the cap a little less lopsided in our favor, but wasn't sure if that would be acceptable or not, so I just kinda YOLOed it as is.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dubois, Pierre-Luc8$7,500,000
Gavrikov, Vladislav6$3,750,000
Trades
CBJ
  1. Nylander, William
TOR
  1. Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]
  2. Foudy, Liam
  3. 2020 1st round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
MTL
  1. Murray, Ryan
Buyouts
  • Scott Hartnell: $1,250,000
  • Alexander Wennberg: $441,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CHI
WSH
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
2021
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
2022
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,234,866$0$850,000$3,265,134
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CBJ
Nyquist, Gustav
$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
CBJ
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
$7,500,000
C
RFA - 2
CBJ
Atkinson, Cam
$5,875,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
CBJ
Jenner, Boone
$3,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
CBJ
Bjorkstrand, Oliver
$2,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
CBJ
Foligno, Nick
$5,500,000
LW, C, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CBJ
Texier, Alexandre
$897,500
LW, C
RFA - 1
CBJ
Bemström, Emil
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
CBJ
Robinson, Eric
$975,000
LW
UFA - 2
CBJ
Nash, Riley
$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
CBJ
Gerbe, Nathan
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CBJ
Werenski, Zachary
$5,000,000
LD
RFA - 2
CBJ
Jones, Seth
$5,400,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
CBJ
Merzlikins, Elvis
$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
CBJ
Gavrikov, Vladislav
$3,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
CBJ
Savard, David
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
CBJ
Korpisalo, Joonas
$2,800,000
G
UFA - 2
CBJ
Kukan, Dean
$1,650,000
RD
UFA - 2
CBJ
Nutivaara, Markus
$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CBJ
Matteau, Stefan
$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
CBJ
Dubinsky, Brandon
$5,850,000
C, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CBJ
Dalpe, Zac
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
CBJ
Harrington, Scott
$1,633,333
LD
UFA - 2

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May 7, 2020 at 3:20
#1
leafs101
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I get that the Nylander thing was another person's idea, but this would not be smart for the Leafs. If they trade willy, which I wouldn't, they'd need a high level young RHD coming back.

Also, if you want him as an offensive spark, fine, but he's very unproven at the C position in the NHL. You might be better off spending your assets on an actual center.
May 7, 2020 at 3:23
#2
Viqsi
Thread Starter
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Quoting: leafs101
I get that the Nylander thing was another person's idea, but this would not be smart for the Leafs. If they trade willy, which I wouldn't, they'd need a high level young RHD coming back

Just to reiterate what I said in the description - the Leafs were ostensibly covering that RHD coming back by getting Pietrangelo in FA in the original proposal. (The original proposal also had the Leafs somehow trading Rielly for Parayko as well, but I opted to omit that bit of comedy.) Obviously if that doesn't happen then even the paper-thin veneer of justification this has for the Leafs goes away, and given Petro's age it might not work in any case. This was more to make the point to fellow Jackets fans who were saying "we can't afford that".
May 7, 2020 at 3:32
#3
HabsForEver
Joined: Jan 2019
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The season Murray just had and his current contract, I don't think you would have to pay that much for him.
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May 7, 2020 at 3:50
#4
Bluejackets2000
Joined: Aug 2017
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Quoting: Viqsi
Just to reiterate what I said in the description - the Leafs were ostensibly covering that RHD coming back by getting Pietrangelo in FA in the original proposal. (The original proposal also had the Leafs somehow trading Rielly for Parayko as well, but I opted to omit that bit of comedy.) Obviously if that doesn't happen then even the paper-thin veneer of justification this has for the Leafs goes away, and given Petro's age it might not work in any case. This was more to make the point to fellow Jackets fans who were saying "we can't afford that".


Whether or not Jackets can afford it, (and I do believe Anderson will be traded with the emergence of Stenlund, Bemstrom, signing of Grigorenko), it would be crazy to trade Foudy. I realize Nylander has some very good numbers, but he has not played center for any amount of time, he plays on the wing.
If Foudy turns out to be the real deal, we would be giving up our opportunity to have a rock solid 1C 2C combo for many years to come.
Plus, Jarmo is very protective of those 1st rd picks, especially after the Duchene rental (experiment, fiasco, etc.).
May 7, 2020 at 3:51
#5
aadoyle
NHL Trade Inspector
Joined: Feb 2020
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Quoting: leafs101
I get that the Nylander thing was another person's idea, but this would not be smart for the Leafs. If they trade willy, which I wouldn't, they'd need a high level young RHD coming back.

Also, if you want him as an offensive spark, fine, but he's very unproven at the C position in the NHL. You might be better off spending your assets on an actual center.


if nylander goes would rather see that trade with dallas happen as the leafs would get a top 4 RHD, robertsons brother, a cheaper 3c, a depth RD, and a 1st. Sure we would lose liligren as well but that trade is full of potential
May 7, 2020 at 4:03
#6
csick
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
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Quoting: aadoyle
if nylander goes would rather see that trade with dallas happen as the leafs would get a top 4 RHD, robertsons brother, a cheaper 3c, a depth RD, and a 1st. Sure we would lose liligren as well but that trade is full of potential


The actual trade i want to see is Marner for 2 or 3 young pieces including a top 4 RHD that cost less than 7 mill combined and save the Leafs 4 mill
May 7, 2020 at 4:05
#7
pharrow
Joined: Jun 2018
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I don't know, Maybe Savard, Anderson and a 1st?
I wouldn't trade Foudy.
May 7, 2020 at 4:07
#8
aadoyle
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Quoting: csick
The actual trade i want to see is Marner for 2 or 3 young pieces including a top 4 RHD that cost less than 7 mill combined and save the Leafs 4 mill


there are 3 teams I could see taking marners entire contract but the return would be tricky. Minnesota seems to be the most realistic but the question is what would the deal even be.
May 7, 2020 at 4:10
#9
csick
KFTW
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Quoting: aadoyle
there are 3 teams I could see taking marners entire contract but the return would be tricky. Minnesota seems to be the most realistic but the question is what would the deal even be.


Spurgeon + Boldy?
 
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