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Murray goes to Colorado and keeping Hornqvist

Created by: Pens3lieve
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 7, 2020
Published: May 11, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
3$1,250,000
3$2,750,000
3$2,750,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
2$1,250,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Grubauer, Philipp
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Grubauer is essentially a rental.
COL
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Murray signs an extension.
2.
CGY
  1. Almari, Niclas
  2. DeSmith, Casey
  3. Lafferty, Sam [RFA Rights]
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. 2022 7th round pick (OTT)
4.
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2020
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2022
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23$82,000,000$80,333,508$0$850,000$1,666,492
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
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NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 4
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$764,167$764,167 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C
RFA - 3
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$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$806,250$806,250 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
UFA - 2

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May 11, 2020 at 12:08 p.m.
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May 11, 2020 at 12:11 p.m.
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a lot of turnover a team that was on a 100+ point pace despite Crosby missing 28 games, guentzel missing 30 games, malkin missing 14 games, rust missing 14 games etc.
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May 11, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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I'm not interested in that COL trade at all
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May 11, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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Colorado is overpaying for a better goalie
Leafs are downgrading from Kapanen to some depth guys
May 11, 2020 at 12:20 p.m.
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thats a hard no from the Avs.
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May 11, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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Come on, he was looking at Murray at the trade deadline with two injured goalies. Colorado has two healthy goalies now therefore Murray is not an option
May 11, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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Quoting: moli92
I'm not interested in that COL trade at all


Quoting: keep_ups12
Colorado is overpaying for a better goalie
Leafs are downgrading from Kapanen to some depth guys


Quoting: coga16
thats a hard no from the Avs.


What would Colorado offer, in your opinion, for Murray?
As mentioned, COL does have 2 goalies, so the package would start with Grubauer probably. Murray being an RFA opposed to the UFA Grubauer should give Murray more value as the 2 are comparable goalies.
May 11, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
What would Colorado offer, in your opinion, for Murray?
As mentioned, COL does have 2 goalies, so the package would start with Grubauer probably. Murray being an RFA opposed to the UFA Grubauer should give Murray more value as the 2 are comparable goalies.


Philip for Murray 1 for 1
May 11, 2020 at 1:06 p.m.
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Leafs say no
May 11, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.
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I still have faith that we will resign the 2 time Stanley Cup Winner!!!
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May 11, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.
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If Leafs will be moving Kapanen, there must be an NHL ready D man coming back... Riikola isn't it.

The other pieces which are all FW, dont move the needle enough.
May 11, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Trickster
If Leafs will be moving Kapanen, there must be an NHL ready D man coming back... Riikola isn't it.

The other pieces which are all FW, dont move the needle enough.


What? Look at Riikola’s stats! He is a fine 2 way defenseman who would great on a pairing wit Him Lehtonen. He’s way better than Jack Johnson it’s just the coach hates him.
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May 11, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
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Colorado is overpaying for a better goalie
Leafs are downgrading from Kapanen to some depth guys


Legare has top 6 Forward potential. He could be as good as Kapanen.
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May 11, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
a lot of turnover a team that was on a 100+ point pace despite Crosby missing 28 games, guentzel missing 30 games, malkin missing 14 games, rust missing 14 games etc.


The only major move is the Kapanen addition. Everything else is just tweaks to get rid of useless / overpaid guys.
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May 11, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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I still have faith that we will resign the 2 time Stanley Cup Winner!!!


I hope so on a 2-year bridge.
May 11, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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Honestly I think that is fair value for Murray but everyone believes he’s bad, so I can’t say much about it.
May 11, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Philip for Murray 1 for 1


But doesn't Murray have more value than Grubauer?
I think so because Grubauer would essentially be a rental.
May 11, 2020 at 1:39 p.m.
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I doubt they move both DeSmith and Murray at the same time. I know they get Grub back, but they have no depth at the goalie position currently. Their prospects are too young and the only guy of any value they have is D'Oreo who has not looked like an NHL guys at this point and is clearly not ready. But he's young.

I think the TOR trade is fair. But they won't do that, even if they want to create space. They will dump someone else. Johnsson is my bet on who they move.

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Philip for Murray 1 for 1


that's insane, come on, don't be a homer.
May 11, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Legare has top 6 Forward potential. He could be as good as Kapanen.


No he doesn't. Kapanen is much better and is already a top 6 forward. We don't need future guys

Quoting: Pens3lieve
But doesn't Murray have more value than Grubauer?
I think so because Grubauer would essentially be a rental.


Nope. Murray has had a bad season so his value goes down
May 11, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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I doubt they move both DeSmith and Murray at the same time. I know they get Grub back, but they have no depth at the goalie position currently. Their prospects are too young and the only guy of any value they have is D'Oreo who has not looked like an NHL guys at this point and is clearly not ready. But he's young.

I think the TOR trade is fair. But they won't do that, even if they want to create space. They will dump someone else. Johnsson is my bet on who they move.



that's insane, come on, don't be a homer.


Maybe a third I am adding. That is it
May 11, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
What would Colorado offer, in your opinion, for Murray?
As mentioned, COL does have 2 goalies, so the package would start with Grubauer probably. Murray being an RFA opposed to the UFA Grubauer should give Murray more value as the 2 are comparable goalies.


draft pick or Grubauer flop straight up (even then I dont think Avs should do that)

avs are not moving one of their most NHL ready prospects plus statically the better goalie in Grubauer for an expensive RFA in Murray and another over paid 3rd liner.
Legit does nothing for the Avs int his proposal.
May 11, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
But doesn't Murray have more value than Grubauer?
I think so because Grubauer would essentially be a rental.


no bc Grubauer is cheaper and has better numbers.
May 11, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Why do pens sell so low on Murray? Would be a huge mistake. Trade Jarry instead for the 1000th time
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May 11, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
What? Look at Riikola’s stats! He is a fine 2 way defenseman who would great on a pairing wit Him Lehtonen. He’s way better than Jack Johnson it’s just the coach hates him.


Leafs decline, the offer is quantity for quality.
Change to Johnsson and done deal, for Kapanen this is not good enough.
May 11, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.
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Not enough for Murray / Juggs
- Too much to give away JJ, Im just going with if there is no rise in Cap - There has to be a special buyout to help teams
- I dont kno if TOR does that deal?? depends on what Simon gets tho
 
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