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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
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People that know anything about hockey do you think that the leafs will have to trade sandin or liljegren for a competent dman durin the offseason?
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May 12, 2020 at 9:46 a.m.
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Definitely not Sandin. Sandin is our best 2 way future defenseman
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May 12, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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I wouldn't even trade either. Liljegren is probably most likely to go. I would only trade him for a true RH top 4 defenseman
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May 12, 2020 at 9:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Gabriel11
Definitely not Sandin. Sandin is our best 2 way future defenseman


That’s my thoughts but apparently I was dumb

Quoting: keep_ups12
I wouldn't even trade either. Liljegren is probably most likely to go. I would only trade him for a true RH top 4 defenseman

Yeah it’d have to be a good rhd that’s young and affordable
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May 12, 2020 at 9:52 a.m.
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May 12, 2020 at 9:53 a.m.
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Kerfoot/Kappy/AJ plus Dermott is more than enough to get a decent top 4 RHD to pair with Rielly.

Or Dermott (with a full healthy off-season) may already be that guy (or have that potential) if they can't find a trade that makes sense.

Rielly played well with Hainsey. Leafs only need to find "Hainsey" but more mobile, and doesn't treat the puck like a hand grenade, in order to make a solid pairing.
May 12, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Barilko14
Kerfoot/Kappy/AJ plus Dermott is more than enough to get a decent top 4 RHD to pair with Rielly.

Or Dermott (with a full healthy off-season) may already be that guy (or have that potential) if they can't find a trade that makes sense.

Rielly played well with Hainsey. Leafs only need to find "Hainsey" but more mobile, and doesn't treat the puck like a hand grenade, in order to make a solid pairing.

Thank you! I literally thought I was goin crazy being in quarantine or something. Glad I’m in the majority for most leaf fans
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May 12, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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I think Johnsson+/Kapanen/Kerfoot+ could get you Rielly's partner
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May 12, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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I think Johnsson+/Kapanen/Kerfoot+ could get you Rielly's partner


Yeah that’s my thinking to hopefully.
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May 12, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.
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The team also has to consider who they plan to protect when the expansion draft rolls around. Keeping both Liljegren and Sandin, who are both exempt from being claimed may be the right strategy. Bringing in a top four guy with term would mean that they will likely be exposing someone in the top four. (Lot's of ways around that mind you with trades and such but, it is out there as a possibility).

My gut feeling is that they keep them both.

I think that the organization feels that the D core is better than the sum of its parts currently. (Minus Barrie and Ceci of course).

So... to answer your question... I think that it is unlikely that either one of Sandin or Liljegren are moved.
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May 12, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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There seems to this illusion that Leafs Dmen are so bad that they can get another teams 4,5,6,7 Dman and this would guarantee the Leaf success.
First, the Leafs are not going to have their two worse Dmen from last year on the team Barrie and Ceci, an improvement by deletion.
I know it hoping but the Leafs two best Dmen Muzzin, Reilly spent long periods on LTIR. So did Dermot.
Leaf will not have the worse coach in the NHL coaching them through training till mid November like they did last year
So, let's look at the Leafs defence. Reilly, Muzzin, Holl. That's solid. Dermot and Sandin. That's five. Then I the iffies. Liljegren, Lehoten, Marincin. Total for 8 Dman at 18m. Surely the Leafs can manurer their cap by adding another Dman if they want. San Jose who had worse GAA than the Leafs have 26.5m tied in three aging declining NTC Dman on long term deals. Now that's team in Dman trouble.
It's kinda silly talk that the Leaf have to find a perfect partner for Reilly. You would think if Reilly was such a premier Dman that so many Leaf fan think, Reilly could adjust his game and play more with more defensive responsibility when needed. Yep, I'm all for adding a competent RHD...but at what cost? My perfect scenario would be trading Johnsson with no cap returned (don't worry about what the Leafs get in return,) and sign UFA DeMelo. Now DeMelo isn't a star, but he can be competent.
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May 12, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
The team also has to consider who they plan to protect when the expansion draft rolls around. Keeping both Liljegren and Sandin, who are both exempt from being claimed may be the right strategy. Bringing in a top four guy with term would mean that they will likely be exposing someone in the top four. (Lot's of ways around that mind you with trades and such but, it is out there as a possibility).

My gut feeling is that they keep them both.

I think that the organization feels that the D core is better than the sum of its parts currently. (Minus Barrie and Ceci of course).

So... to answer your question... I think that it is unlikely that either one of Sandin or Liljegren are moved.


Quoting: palhal
There seems to this illusion that Leafs Dmen are so bad that they can get another teams 4,5,6,7 Dman and this would guarantee the Leaf success.
First, the Leafs are not going to have their two worse Dmen from last year on the team Barrie and Ceci, an improvement by deletion.
I know it hoping but the Leafs two best Dmen Muzzin, Reilly spent long periods on LTIR. So did Dermot.
Leaf will not have the worse coach in the NHL coaching them through training till mid November like they did last year
So, let's look at the Leafs defence. Reilly, Muzzin, Holl. That's solid. Dermot and Sandin. That's five. Then I the iffies. Liljegren, Lehoten, Marincin. Total for 8 Dman at 18m. Surely the Leafs can manurer their cap by adding another Dman if they want. San Jose who had worse GAA than the Leafs have 26.5m tied in three aging declining NTC Dman on long term deals. No that's team in Dman trouble.
It's kinda silly talk that the Leaf have to find a perfect partner for Reilly. You would think if Reilly was such a premier Dman that so many Leaf fan think, Reilly could adjust his game and play more with more defensive responsibility when needed. Yep, I'm all for adding a competent RHD...but at what cost? My perfect scenario would be trading Johnsson with no cap returned (don't worry about what the Leafs get in return,) and sign UFA DeMelo. Now DeMelo isn't a star, but he can be competent.


Thank you these were exactly the answers I was lookin for haha I knew there would be some real smart people that would have a good input
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May 12, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
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IMO trading 2 competent defenseman for older slightly better defensemen seems like a step backwards... keeping Liljegren and Sandin is the best option if you’re Toronto.
May 12, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
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IMO trading 2 competent defenseman for older slightly better defensemen seems like a step backwards... keeping Liljegren and Sandin is the best option if you’re Toronto.


They’d never trade both for one D it just wouldn’t make sense
May 12, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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They’d never trade both for one D it just wouldn’t make sense


It was more of a trading either of them or both of them for separate players. Sorry.
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May 12, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.
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It was more of a trading either of them or both of them for separate players. Sorry.


It’s all good
 
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