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My 20-21 Penguins Team - MY PENS LECTURE - The 7 Needs and Reasons Why

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Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 6, 2020
Published: May 12, 2020
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** ALL NHL TEAMS :
Get [1] Compliance & Complete Buy-Out of [1] player under Contract w/ & bc of The CAP staying Flat at [$81.5m]

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********** ALL PENS FANS SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE 2020 - 2021 PITTSBURGH PENGUIN ROSTER LIKE THIS ***********

-------- Needs to Try & Reasons Why : {I have GMJR's phones tapped & this is what I kno to be a FACT} --------


[#1] ~ TRADE for a Top 6 RH - RWer to play w/ Sid or Geno ~ (The younger & cheaper - The Better)
~ This is a MUST to Fix the PP problem on Left Wall, to give PP another entry option guy, a good 5 on 5 guy, AND to give 87 / 71 another Star winger at this point of their careers.
** Having Necas at [$863,k] for next 2 years would be perfect


[#2] ~ The GOALIE situation : Murr's is going to have a great Playoff Run & price himself out of PIT.
~ I'm good w/ Jarry being the 1A but need to find a 1B type back-up & also maybe a younger Goalie as a #3.
** Ullmark would be a cheap / under rated option for a 1B


[#3] ~ Jack Johnson #3 will be a Compliance & Complete [Free] Buy-Out w/ Cap staying flat at [$81.5m] - (just put him on LTIR & move on)
~ Teams will be stuck w/ paying the remaining salary of player but the NHL must help Cap teams like Pens, somehow.


[#4] ~ POSITIONS NEEDED TO FILL Via a TRADE or Via a UFA : LHD - RHD - Wing
~ A 2nd OR 3rd Pairing LHD-man
* McCabe would be a steal at [$2.85m] even if for 1 yr.

~ A 3rd Pairing RHD-man
* Lyubushkin is a cheap / solid option / + have Juulsen pushing him

~ A 4th Line winger [w/ some Physicality if able to] BUT this depends on who all get traded??
*Girgensons & Janmark could both be great options - Girgy brings everything but I always liked Janmark.


[#5] ~ Get & Add - DEPTH, DEPTH, more DEPTH, & then some Extra DEPTH :
@ Forward / @ Defensive / @ Goalie
~ If the end of the [19'-20'] Season starts end of summer, Then we have a long Playoff run, AND then the [20'-21'] Season starts a month later..............
* WE WILL NEED AS MUCH DEPTH AS POSSIBLE


[#6] ~ ADD - DRAFT PICKS when making trades - maybe to get into 2nd Rd of [2020] Draft & for some mid Rd Picks in [2021] Draft.


[#7] ~ STOP TRADING BJUGSTAD for NOTHING [He is still a good player] & He is in a contract year (motivated) -
~ Why trade him when he has NO value? == STOP BEING DUMB!!!
+ GMJR loves the dude, I highly doubt he gives him away.

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*** I am Showing - [26] - Roster Players ------ [To show depth of Team & why Team is over the CAP] ***

Goalie ~ A. Hill #31 / RHD ~ N. Juulsen #56 / RW/C ~ S. Lafferty #37 ==== [$2.325m] of the CAP goes to WBS (AHL) ==== WITH [23] ROSTER PLAYERS ==== [$790,K] Under the CAP

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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
3$3,000,000
2$775,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$2,000,000
2$775,000
1$1,200,000
1$775,000
2$775,000
2$1,400,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,250,000
2$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Hayden, John$775,000No Compensation
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. Necas, Martin
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
**CONDITIONAL PICK**
2021 3rd Round Pick (CAR)
~ Conditional of Necas : Totaling UNDER - 60 Points or 25 goals in [20' - 21' season] - If Necas hits 60 points or 25 goals - Pick returns to (CAR).

~ Necas is 1 of my fav young players in NHL, has potential to be a legit star w/ his skill, power, shot, speed, & physicality

~ GMJR & GMJB have a deal in place to move Mrazek to [BUF] - following trade.
CAR
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
  2. Ruhwedel, Chad
Additional Details:
~ Moving Murr's-30 to CAR [same division] would be a risk & tough to do BUT Murray could be great on that young Canes team & the missing piece.

~ Ruhwedel is the best #7 D-man in NHL & very well should be at least a 3rd pairing guy. + If TVR goes in UFA & gives Bean or Kaski time.
2.
PIT
  1. McCabe, Jake
  2. Ullmark, Linus [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
~ IMO, McCabe is a very good Top 4 LHD-man but stuck on a bad team & he could be a smaller version of Dumo here.

~ Ullmark is a very under rated 6'-4" Talented Goalie & is still very raw at only 26. Love this dudes style & would be a great & cheaper 1B type Goalie.
BUF
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Mrázek, Petr
Additional Details:
- Mrazek gives BUF a #1 type Goalie until Ukko-Pecca is ready to take over in Net.

- ZAR is prob the best defensive forward in NHL, a very good LWer that can play on any line, & a great PK guy.
3.
PIT
  1. Juulsen, Noah [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
~ Juulsen has had concussion issues but he is worth the chance to me.
- A French Canadian, RHD-man that wears #58 ???? YES, I take that chance, lol.
MTL
  1. DeSmith, Casey
Additional Details:
- DeSmith is still a very good Back-up Goalie but is stuck in AHL bc we have 2- #1's in Net.
+ Gives Primeau AHL time instead of sitting on bench.
4.
PIT
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
Need another 3rd Rdr in 20' Draft to be able to Trade back into 2nd Rd to get that 1st Rd type prospect that falls into 2nd Rd for some reason or another that GMJR loves to target.
ANA
  1. Knott, Graham [RFA Rights]
  2. Riikola, Juuso [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Riikola is a #4 to #7 - LHD-man that can play both sides equally as good & never got a fair chance in PIT. + his lytics are very good.
5.
PIT
  1. Hill, Adin [RFA Rights]
  2. Lyubushkin, Ilya [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
~ Adin Hill will be a legit Starting Goalie in NHL in a yr or 2 [IMO]. I absolutely Love this kids ability & his 6'-5" size. + Reminds me of Matt Murray (always in good position).

~ Lyubushkin is a young / solid RH- Defensive D-man. + Adds some physicality on back-end.
ARI
  1. Nyberg, John [RFA Rights]
  2. Simon, Dominik [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
- HCRT knows how good of a 2-way player Simon is & how skilled he is. + ARZ will love his analytics.

- Nyberg is a 23 yr old depth D-man.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,488,508$0$1,387,500$2,011,492

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA
$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2

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May 12, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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Cannot see Carolina moving Necas. I know value would be higher since we are trading a goalie within the division but I cannot see Necas going. I think DeSmith is a more than okay backup and I see no need to move him. Our fourth line is one of the best in the league. I get the need for a physical guy, but I love that ZAR-Blueger-Tanev line. I definitely see your Bjugstad point though, and have made a previous AGM where I held onto him. He is just the easy target to move out for cap space. For some of these moves though, I just do not see why the Pens would make them?
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May 12, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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This is a really good team man. I don’t know if Carolina moves Necas but if it’s for Murray who’s won 3 in 5, no doubt they should accept. I don’t know if Buffalo wants to move Ullmark, he seems to be their starter. Hutton you could probably target.
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May 12, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Instead of trading Jugs for no value let's trade the younger cheaper (healthier) better player who is important to this teams success for basically nothing instead!

No way CAR trades Nec for Murr

I wouldn't bother trading up into the second, unless it's for a guy like Marat, just keep the later picks, the average value between a mid second and mid third is not that much

If ARZ trades Raanta they aren't trading Hill

Jarry likely gets more (especially for 3 yrs) and don't sign Daley, he is atrocious, like way worse than JJ bad, and only regressing... He probably retires anyway

I like the Zemgus pickup tho
May 12, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Cannot see Carolina moving Necas. I know value would be higher since we are trading a goalie within the division but I cannot see Necas going. I think DeSmith is a more than okay backup and I see no need to move him. Our fourth line is one of the best in the league. I get the need for a physical guy, but I love that ZAR-Blueger-Tanev line. I definitely see your Bjugstad point though, and have made a previous AGM where I held onto him. He is just the easy target to move out for cap space. For some of these moves though, I just do not see why the Pens would make them?


I think I am just in love with Necas, lol
I really think he could be Pasta good?
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May 12, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
This is a really good team man. I don’t know if Carolina moves Necas but if it’s for Murray who’s won 3 in 5, no doubt they should accept. I don’t know if Buffalo wants to move Ullmark, he seems to be their starter. Hutton you could probably target.


Thanks, BUF has Ukko coming tho
May 12, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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I think I am just in love with Necas, lol
I really think he could be Pasta good?


He is really good and still so young. Would love to acquire him. Tough to see him actually getting moved though.
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May 12, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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1 - Jarry will get more - Evlis contract as a direct comparable
2 - Doubt ERod takes 1.2M considering his QO is 2M
3 - Carolina declines that trade and frankly if I'm GMJR I don't trade Murray there either
4 - No reason to trade Ruhwedel, perfect depth guy for essentially free
5 - HARD no on trading ZAR, like a HARD no
6 - No point in making a trade/signing for a backup when we have DeSmith, he is fine and cheap
7 - I highly doubt Riikola & Knott (who has 0 value) can get a 3rd
8 - Arizona says no to that trade IMO, and I'd rather keep Simon

All we need to do for next year is say goodbye to JJ + Bjugstad and we're fine IMO
May 12, 2020 at 11:30 a.m.
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Instead of trading Jugs for no value let's trade the younger cheaper (healthier) better player who is important to this teams success for basically nothing instead!

No way CAR trades Nec for Murr

I wouldn't bother trading up into the second, unless it's for a guy like Marat, just keep the later picks, the average value between a mid second and mid third is not that much

If ARZ trades Raanta they aren't trading Hill

Jarry likely gets more (especially for 3 yrs) and don't sign Daley, he is atrocious, like way worse than JJ bad, and only regressing... He probably retires anyway

I like the Zemgus pickup tho


Its just my wish for Necas, love the kid
- GMJR has traded up into 2nd Rd 3 or 4 times before... he likes to get that falling guy like Hallander & Lagare (tho in 3rd)
- ARZ has Provestov coming, he is their future Goalie
- Murray won 2-cups and only got $3.75 , Jarry has only started playing he will not get more than 2.75 on a bridge deal
- Daley can play both sides and can still skate, Id take him for depth at 1m
- I think Girgy would play here for cheap + he actually lives here in PIT.
May 12, 2020 at 11:35 a.m.
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1 - Jarry will get more - Evlis contract as a direct comparable
2 - Doubt ERod takes 1.2M considering his QO is 2M
3 - Carolina declines that trade and frankly if I'm GMJR I don't trade Murray there either
4 - No reason to trade Ruhwedel, perfect depth guy for essentially free
5 - HARD no on trading ZAR, like a HARD no
6 - No point in making a trade/signing for a backup when we have DeSmith, he is fine and cheap
7 - I highly doubt Riikola & Knott (who has 0 value) can get a 3rd
8 - Arizona says no to that trade IMO, and I'd rather keep Simon

All we need to do for next year is say goodbye to JJ + Bjugstad and we're fine IMO


Just say goodbye to Juggs & JJ and we are fine?? wow
- I dont think Jarry gets more than 2.75
- E-Rod will get a Schultz type offer when he was a RFA and his QO was 2.5 but signed a 1 yr $1.2m deal after 1st yr
- I am a Juulsen fan & why i moved Ruds
- Hard No trading ZAR?? LOL
- DeSmith is a good back-up if u have a legit #1, he isnt a 1B tho
May 12, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.
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They won't trade a goalie to any team in the Metro
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Its just my wish for Necas, love the kid
- GMJR has traded up into 2nd Rd 3 or 4 times before... he likes to get that falling guy like Hallander & Lagare (tho in 3rd)
- ARZ has Provestov coming, he is their future Goalie
- Murray won 2-cups and only got $3.75 , Jarry has only started playing he will not get more than 2.75 on a bridge deal
- Daley can play both sides and can still skate, Id take him for depth at 1m
- I think Girgy would play here for cheap + he actually lives here in PIT.


Oh I love Nec too... So does CAR tho
Yeah ik, but this yr the falling guy is likely gonna fall too the third or later bc there's basically two full rounds of guys that are just as good or beastly as good as Poulin, plus just generally from a value perspective 2 thirds>>>1 mid second (in terms of there's about a 20% chance for each of the thirds to become a good player, but only 30% the second will, I just used random numbers, but you get my point, obv there are exceptions, but more often than not trading back gets you at least one better player than trading up)
Jarry was also better this year than Murr was with the two cups which are team achievements, not individual ones, plus the cap has gone up a few mil
I mean... Maata could skate... Daley isn't close to add good as him, you need to do more than skate
May 12, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.
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Just say goodbye to Juggs & JJ and we are fine?? wow
- I dont think Jarry gets more than 2.75
- E-Rod will get a Schultz type offer when he was a RFA and his QO was 2.5 but signed a 1 yr $1.2m deal after 1st yr
- I am a Juulsen fan & why i moved Ruds
- Hard No trading ZAR?? LOL
- DeSmith is a good back-up if u have a legit #1, he isnt a 1B tho


Yes.. clearing out almost 8M in cap and we will be fine..? Riikola = cheaper & better than JJ & McCann can play 3C for cheaper & better.. don't see how that's rocket science..
If you compare Elvis & Jarry, Elvis is slightly better and he got 4M.. don't think .005 of a save % earns you 1.25M less..
ERod may, tbh I could care less if he comes back for 1.2M let alone 2M
If we do move 1 of Murray/Jarry, DeSmith is more valuable to us than Juulsen
I don't see the point in trading ZAR... Tanev-Blueger-ZAR is one of the best if not the best shutdown lines in hockey, no need to break that up.
If DeSmith isn't a 1B neither is Ullmark.. they're essentially the same player..
May 12, 2020 at 12:08 p.m.
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-Love Necas, he could play #3C if they got a different top-6 wing(Rakell/Smith).
-Wouldn't trade ZAR, but he's not untouchable by any means.
-If we got that return from CAR, I'd do that deal...but would hate to see Murray beat us in a playoff series...
-Lybushkin/HIll/McCabe would be really nice pickups.
Again, great job as usual.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
-Love Necas, he could play #3C if they got a different top-6 wing(Rakell/Smith).
-Wouldn't trade ZAR, but he's not untouchable by any means.
-If we got that return from CAR, I'd do that deal...but would hate to see Murray beat us in a playoff series...
-Lybushkin/HIll/McCabe would be really nice pickups.
Again, great job as usual.


Thanks bro,
I honestly think Necas could get Pasta good, just love the kid... I think CAR beat the Center position out of him when they played him at RW at AHL there is an old story in Athletic about it.
- I like ZAR too but I also dont think his trade value will be much higher than now?
- Id be scared to trade Murray in division too. Everyone hates on him on here but he is a great Goalie
- Im a huge A. Hill fan - He reminds me of Murray actually , everytime i watch him
- I also think McCabe would do great on a better team... He is very solid
- Lybushkin was a cheap get but Id be ok with him.
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May 12, 2020 at 3:15 p.m.
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Can’t see Carolina doing that but I’d take it as a pens fan forsure
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May 12, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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Yes.. clearing out almost 8M in cap and we will be fine..? Riikola = cheaper & better than JJ & McCann can play 3C for cheaper & better.. don't see how that's rocket science..
If you compare Elvis & Jarry, Elvis is slightly better and he got 4M.. don't think .005 of a save % earns you 1.25M less..
ERod may, tbh I could care less if he comes back for 1.2M let alone 2M
If we do move 1 of Murray/Jarry, DeSmith is more valuable to us than Juulsen
I don't see the point in trading ZAR... Tanev-Blueger-ZAR is one of the best if not the best shutdown lines in hockey, no need to break that up.
If DeSmith isn't a 1B neither is Ullmark.. they're essentially the same player..


Elvis played 2 games in AHL & 1st yr in NHL - 2.35GAA & .923 SV% and is the Legit #1 Goalie
Jarry played 4 YEARS in AHL & 2yrs of NHL backup 2.61GAA & .914 SV% and is NOT the #1
~ That is the BIG difference

I was just speaking on how everyone knows that Sully
- does NOT trust Riikola (& Ill never kno why?)
- Sully wants Juggs at 3rd line Center bc he has a hard on for RH- Centers

- See im a big fan of Juulsen, maybe its bc he is a French Canadian RHDman that wears #58 tho ?? LOL
if he is healthy Desmith for Juulsen would be a steal, IMO

ZAR is a solid player, but have u noticed that he's never done this good for this long untill he got Tanev on his line?? Just like Lowery in WPG, look how bad he has been noww/ out Tanev?

-Ullmark is a 26 yr old 6'-4" Goalie starting in NHL , DeSmith is a 28yr old 5'11" Backup in the AHL - Thats a hell of a difference
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Can’t see Carolina doing that but I’d take it as a pens fan forsure


I agree actually, lol
I would give part of my Liver for Necas, lol
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They won't trade a goalie to any team in the Metro


I agree, Im just a big Necas fan
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It fills the RW role nicely. Never happen though.

They won't sign Daley either, even for a backup. Guy is made of glass.
So is Jugs which is why he'll probably be gone too.

I hate you for trading zar though tears of joy
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May 13, 2020 at 5:52 a.m.
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Elvis played 2 games in AHL & 1st yr in NHL - 2.35GAA & .923 SV% and is the Legit #1 Goalie
Jarry played 4 YEARS in AHL & 2yrs of NHL backup 2.61GAA & .914 SV% and is NOT the #1
~ That is the BIG difference

I was just speaking on how everyone knows that Sully
- does NOT trust Riikola (& Ill never kno why?)
- Sully wants Juggs at 3rd line Center bc he has a hard on for RH- Centers

- See im a big fan of Juulsen, maybe its bc he is a French Canadian RHDman that wears #58 tho ?? LOL
if he is healthy Desmith for Juulsen would be a steal, IMO

ZAR is a solid player, but have u noticed that he's never done this good for this long untill he got Tanev on his line?? Just like Lowery in WPG, look how bad he has been noww/ out Tanev?

-Ullmark is a 26 yr old 6'-4" Goalie starting in NHL , DeSmith is a 28yr old 5'11" Backup in the AHL - Thats a hell of a difference


I'm comparing Elvis & Jarry THIS YEAR. Yeah, Jarry hasn't been good in years prior, but goalies take longer to develop.. Saying Jarry is getting 2.75M compared to Evlis' 4M is just wrong IMO, you're better off giving players the high end of comparable deals as a worst case scenario measurement to gauge cap space...

Keep Riikola and ship Jugs out, he's literally useless (he never plays) There is 0 reason to allocate 4M of your salary (as a cap strapped team) to a player who doesn't play.. it's pretty simple! And when he did play he was ineffective

I'll say it again, if we trade Murray/Jarry, DeSmith is more valuable to us than a 7th defenceman with MAJOR concussion issues.. exactly what we need, more injury prone players

ZAR is a good player. Implying he has only played good because of Tanev is kinda whack.. TOGETHER those 3 form one of the best shutdown lines in hockey, idk why you'd break that up? But it's not surprising seeing you broke up Guentzel-Malkin-Rust as they were one of THE best overall lines in the entire league.. it's called balance and what won us our cups..

*****Ullmark is a 6'4 NHL goalie with WORSE career numbers than Jarry & DeSmith!****** There is 0 reason to sign him when we have a FULLY capable backup in the AHL due to a logjam at G..
May 13, 2020 at 9:28 a.m.
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I'm comparing Elvis & Jarry THIS YEAR. Yeah, Jarry hasn't been good in years prior, but goalies take longer to develop.. Saying Jarry is getting 2.75M compared to Evlis' 4M is just wrong IMO, you're better off giving players the high end of comparable deals as a worst case scenario measurement to gauge cap space...

Keep Riikola and ship Jugs out, he's literally useless (he never plays) There is 0 reason to allocate 4M of your salary (as a cap strapped team) to a player who doesn't play.. it's pretty simple! And when he did play he was ineffective

I'll say it again, if we trade Murray/Jarry, DeSmith is more valuable to us than a 7th defenceman with MAJOR concussion issues.. exactly what we need, more injury prone players

ZAR is a good player. Implying he has only played good because of Tanev is kinda whack.. TOGETHER those 3 form one of the best shutdown lines in hockey, idk why you'd break that up? But it's not surprising seeing you broke up Guentzel-Malkin-Rust as they were one of THE best overall lines in the entire league.. it's called balance and what won us our cups..

*****Ullmark is a 6'4 NHL goalie with WORSE career numbers than Jarry & DeSmith!****** There is 0 reason to sign him when we have a FULLY capable backup in the AHL due to a logjam at G..


- Elvis also got that contract when everyone thought the Cap was going to be $85-$87m too, so if u think Jarry will get the same now, thats just insane.

- Keep Riikola to be the #7 -Id be fine with but most fans kno that Sully just wont play Riikola & if u look at Juggs analytics, he was a good player when healthy & how GMJR tried to trade for him for 2 yrs bf finally getting him, I just dont think he will give him away unless he gets something back worth while.

- DeSmith is an AHL Goalie

- ZAR is a solid player but why has he never done anything till now? Its called Tanev

- IDK how much u watch the Pens but Guentzel & Sid will be together.
May 13, 2020 at 9:49 a.m.
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I'm comparing Elvis & Jarry THIS YEAR. Yeah, Jarry hasn't been good in years prior, but goalies take longer to develop.. Saying Jarry is getting 2.75M compared to Evlis' 4M is just wrong IMO, you're better off giving players the high end of comparable deals as a worst case scenario measurement to gauge cap space...

Keep Riikola and ship Jugs out, he's literally useless (he never plays) There is 0 reason to allocate 4M of your salary (as a cap strapped team) to a player who doesn't play.. it's pretty simple! And when he did play he was ineffective

I'll say it again, if we trade Murray/Jarry, DeSmith is more valuable to us than a 7th defenceman with MAJOR concussion issues.. exactly what we need, more injury prone players

ZAR is a good player. Implying he has only played good because of Tanev is kinda whack.. TOGETHER those 3 form one of the best shutdown lines in hockey, idk why you'd break that up? But it's not surprising seeing you broke up Guentzel-Malkin-Rust as they were one of THE best overall lines in the entire league.. it's called balance and what won us our cups..

*****Ullmark is a 6'4 NHL goalie with WORSE career numbers than Jarry & DeSmith!****** There is 0 reason to sign him when we have a FULLY capable backup in the AHL due to a logjam at G..


Ullmark - is a 26yr old - 6'4" - A #1 Type Talented Goalie w/ Upside & just in his 2nd yr in NHL on a horrible team
DeSmith - will be a 29yr old 5'11" - Back-Up Depth Goalie in the AHL

The reason is bc GMJR always says he would rather have 2 Good #1 Type Goalies like Murray / Flower or Murray / Jarry
May 13, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.
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- Elvis also got that contract when everyone thought the Cap was going to be $85-$87m too, so if u think Jarry will get the same now, thats just insane.

- Keep Riikola to be the #7 -Id be fine with but most fans kno that Sully just wont play Riikola & if u look at Juggs analytics, he was a good player when healthy & how GMJR tried to trade for him for 2 yrs bf finally getting him, I just dont think he will give him away unless he gets something back worth while.

- DeSmith is an AHL Goalie

- ZAR is a solid player but why has he never done anything till now? Its called Tanev

- IDK how much u watch the Pens but Guentzel & Sid will be together.


There were rumours of the cap staying the same/going down before he signed..

Bjugstads last good season was 2017-2018.. he's been decent analytically but like i said, no need to keep a 4M cap hit for someone who has basically never played for us, we need that money elsewhere.

DeSmith has better career #'s than Ullmark

The ZAR disrespect is just stupid lol, like he is 1/3 of the best shutdown line in hockey, no 1 player in the bottom 6 is carrying a line by themselves.. plus he's making 1M and a RFA after that?? Why get rid of him and replace him with Zemgus/Janmark who are A - more expensive and IMO worse and B - don't have proven chemistry with Blueger and Tanev... just makes no sense to me TBH.. in the playoffs depth is what separates teams, and I like my chances rolling out the ZAR-Blueger-Tanev line over any other teams 4th

Idk how much you want the Pens/know hockey but it's called balance. Zucker is a perfect fit with Sid+Simon, Guentzel+Rust are a perfect fit for Geno. There is 0 reason why they should change up the Guentzel-Malkin-Rust line as I said before, it was probably a top 5 line in all of hockey!
May 13, 2020 at 5:32 p.m.
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There were rumours of the cap staying the same/going down before he signed..

Bjugstads last good season was 2017-2018.. he's been decent analytically but like i said, no need to keep a 4M cap hit for someone who has basically never played for us, we need that money elsewhere.

DeSmith has better career #'s than Ullmark

The ZAR disrespect is just stupid lol, like he is 1/3 of the best shutdown line in hockey, no 1 player in the bottom 6 is carrying a line by themselves.. plus he's making 1M and a RFA after that?? Why get rid of him and replace him with Zemgus/Janmark who are A - more expensive and IMO worse and B - don't have proven chemistry with Blueger and Tanev... just makes no sense to me TBH.. in the playoffs depth is what separates teams, and I like my chances rolling out the ZAR-Blueger-Tanev line over any other teams 4th

Idk how much you want the Pens/know hockey but it's called balance. Zucker is a perfect fit with Sid+Simon, Guentzel+Rust are a perfect fit for Geno. There is 0 reason why they should change up the Guentzel-Malkin-Rust line as I said before, it was probably a top 5 line in all of hockey!


- Bjugstad is a tough one for me bc I like him but cant stay healthy just wish his cap like $1.6m , lol

- Ullmark will be a much better Goalie than DeSmith, + he would never go on waivers like DeSmith and Ullmark actually would get claimed

- Go back and watch last years playoffs - ZAR was one of the worst hockey players Ive ever seen...
It is true tho he has got a ton better (Tanev Factor) and is a great defensive Forward but 37 points in 129 NHL games for a 4th line winger who only plays physical once every 10-15 games

- Bro if u dont think Guentzel & Sid will be put rite back together... I just dont kno what to say then... lol
 
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