Bring the Tkachuk brothers home

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Created by: BluesBandit

Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2020

Published: May 13, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Unrealistic and probably hurts us by taking away depth but would be fun to see the Bash Bros centered by BobTom.

Mindset for Trades:

CGY: Get Schwartz extended who can replace MT in Top 6. Allen can help their goalie situation, Kostin is a good prospect and a 1st.

OTT: Great prospect in Kyrou, Sanford had a breakout year (paced for 20g) and only makes 1.5 mil. He looks like at worst a really good 3rd liner. Bozak is a solid 3C who can be flipped at the deadline for a pick. 1st and 3rd because OTT loves draft picks.

Again, two huge moves like this probably do more harm than good. Also they probably are too in favor of the Blues, but what else is there to do in quarentine?

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dunn, Vince	3	$3,000,000
De La Rose, Jacob	2	$900,000
Walman, Jake	2	$900,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex		7	$8,500,000

Trades

STL

Tkachuk, Matthew

CGY

Allen, Jake
Kostin, Klim
Schwartz, Jaden
2020 1st round pick (STL)

Additional Details:

Schwartz Extends (6x6.5)

STL

Tkachuk, Brady

OTT

Bozak, Tyler
Kyrou, Jordan
Sanford, Zachary
2020 3rd round pick (STL)
2021 1st round pick (STL)

STL

2020 4th round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

To anyone

MTL

Gunnarsson, Carl

STL

CBO or anywhere that'd take him

TOR

Faulk, Justin

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$67,713,015	$306,349	$2,925,000	$13,786,985

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 8	O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000$1,875,000 C UFA - 3	Tarasenko, Vladimir $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
Tkachuk, Matthew $7,000,000$7,000,000 RW UFA - 2	Thomas, Robert $894,166$894,166 ($425,000$425K) C, RW UFA - 1	Tkachuk, Brady $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) LW UFA - 1
Blais, Samuel $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Sundqvist, Oskar $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Perron, David $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Steen, Alexander $5,750,000$5,750,000 LW, RW, C NTC UFA - 1	Barbashev, Ivan $1,475,000$1,475,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
		MacEachern, Mackenzie $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dunn, Vince $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,500,000$8,500,000 RD UFA - 7	Binnington, Jordan $4,400,000$4,400,000 G UFA - 1
Scandella, Marco $3,275,000$3,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Parayko, Colton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Husso, Ville $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 2
Mikkola, Niko $787,500$787,500 LD UFA - 2	Bortuzzo, Robert $1,375,000$1,375,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Walker, Nathan $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1
Walman, Jake $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 2
De La Rose, Jacob $900,000$900,000 C, LW UFA - 1

May 13, 2020 at 10:12 a.m.

ConnorMcHellebucyk

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The calgary trade might work. ( I want the Kassian Tkachuck thing to stop lol)

I highly doubt Ottawa accepts. They're going to need more prospects.

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May 13, 2020 at 10:13 a.m.

ZiggyPalffy

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Since when does a 40 point winger cost 2 potential top 6 players, an above average 3C, as well as a 1st, and a 3rd???

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May 13, 2020 at 10:16 a.m.

csick

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

The calgary trade might work. ( I want the Kassian Tkachuck thing to stop lol)

I highly doubt Ottawa accepts. They're going to need more prospects.

They probably wouldnt be able to keep Thomas and Perunovich

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May 13, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.

ConnorMcHellebucyk

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Quoting: Bf3351

Since when does a 40 point winger cost 2 potential top 6 players, an above average 3C, as well as a 1st, and a 3rd???

He scored 40 points because he's young and he's on Ottawa. No one else is really a star on that team.

May 13, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.

gregb569

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Quoting: Bf3351

Since when does a 40 point winger cost 2 potential top 6 players, an above average 3C, as well as a 1st, and a 3rd???

It's called potential

May 13, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.

ZiggyPalffy

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

He scored 40 points because he's young and he's on Ottawa. No one else is really a star on that team.

Still doesn't even out what was just proposed. Tkachuks have always been overrated.

May 13, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.

ZiggyPalffy

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Quoting: gregb569

It's called potential

GMs don't trade for potential.

May 13, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.

csick

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

He scored 40 points because he's young and he's on Ottawa. No one else is really a star on that team.

Hes averaging 45pts in 71 games the past 2 seasons, thats about 50 over 82 games. And thats played with barely any good players. He was also on pace to be the first player with 300+ hits and 300+ shots on goal this year. Hes also only 20. He actually drives his line too and has positive stats everywhere

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May 13, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.

AndrewLadd

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

He scored 40 points because he's young and he's on Ottawa. No one else is really a star on that team.

Chabot is a star

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May 13, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.

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Lord_Simek

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Quoting: Bf3351

GMs don't trade for potential.

What do you mean here? GMs trade for prospects and picks all the time aka potential.

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May 13, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.

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ConnorMcHellebucyk

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Quoting: AndrewLadd

Chabot is a star

He's not a forward

May 13, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.

#12

AndrewLadd

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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk

He's not a forward

U can be a star and not be a forward lol

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May 13, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.

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gregb569

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Quoting: Bf3351

GMs don't trade for potential.

uhh... what?

Quoting: Lord_Simek

What do you mean here? GMs trade for prospects and picks all the time aka potential.

i'm confused.. this guy man

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May 13, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.

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ConnorMcHellebucyk

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Quoting: AndrewLadd

U can be a star and not be a forward lol

I know. That's not what I was implying. I simply meant that Tkachuk doesn't have a star center or something like that who can really push him over the top.

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May 13, 2020 at 10:36 a.m.

#15

ItWasIn

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Tkachuk is the Flames franchise player, the Blues would have to give up so much to get him

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May 13, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.

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littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: Bf3351

Since when does a 40 point winger cost 2 potential top 6 players, an above average 3C, as well as a 1st, and a 3rd???

teenagers that score 20+ goals and put up 45 points on teams seemingly trying to lose while playing a physical game tend to be worth stuff.

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May 13, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.

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Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: Bf3351

Still doesn't even out what was just proposed. Tkachuks have always been overrated.

Brady Tkachuk is one of the best individual generators of offense in the league. He's one of the biggest volume shooters, and he generates all his offense from within 15 feet of the net, where you are statistically most likely to score from. And he's done it without any 1st line talent supporting him. He's also an unbelievable possession player, on a team that gets crushed possession wise.

The only reason he's not a full blown Star at this point is because he's spent most of his career on the wing of 3rd line centers playing 1C minutes. Once he gets some star power to support him he's going to blow up.

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May 13, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.

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DiehardRedWingsFan58

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There's no way St Louis can afford both Tkachuk brother plus resign Alex Pietrangelo, Where do you honestly come up with enough money to afford them long term? Cap might be flat for awhile here. Good luck with that.

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May 13, 2020 at 12:12 p.m.

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BlastyRocks

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So for a 22 year old potential franchise winger (MT) Calgary gets a 28 year old winger who has had over 60 points once, a cap dump in Allen, a mid level prospect and a very late 1st round pick?

Pretty sure Calgary takes a REALLY BIG pass on this one!

May 13, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.

#20

Dommait

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Wait one year and you can trade Kyrou and a first alone for Brady.

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