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Great Hockey trade to help both teams improve

Created by: Falbert_Dong
Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2020
Published: May 13, 2020 at 12:16
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
CBJ
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
MTL
  1. Nylander, Alexander
  2. Toews, Jonathan
CHI
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Weber, Shea
  3. Tatar, Tomas ($2,000,000 retained)
  4. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Having Tatar at 2 mill less will save the Hawks of cap troubles and having Tatar ar 3.8 mill is like having Toews at 5 mil id presume
MTL
  1. Nylander, William
TOR
  1. Suzuki, Nick
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tomas Tatar: $2,000,000 (41.67%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
WSH
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
OTT
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
STL
VGK
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
15$81,500,000$63,114,032$0$850,000$18,385,968
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
$863,333
RW, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
$763,333
C
RFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Alzner, Karl
$4,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 2

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May 13, 2020 at 12:19
#1
Dubas isnt a genius
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That would be a no from Toronto. Nylander has such a good contract makes no sense for the Leafs.
May 13, 2020 at 12:22
#2
the better zuki
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Quoting: firezfurx
That would be a no from Toronto. Nylander has such a good contract makes no sense for the Leafs.


whats nylander actually worth 10M
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May 13, 2020 at 12:24
#3
LEAFSandBRUINSfan
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Haha Suzuki for Nylander 😂😂
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May 13, 2020 at 12:27
#4
Dubas isnt a genius
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
whats nylander actually worth 10M


Not 7m< thats for sure. If he was 30, then 7m is right. But he's not and is only getting better while that contract only gets better.
May 13, 2020 at 12:34
#5
the better zuki
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Quoting: firezfurx
Not 7m< thats for sure. If he was 30, then 7m is right. But he's not and is only getting better while that contract only gets better.


8.5?
May 13, 2020 at 12:36
#6
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I don’t see Chicago ever accepting that trade, it’s very lopsided and favors Montreal greatly.
May 13, 2020 at 12:38
#7
Dubas isnt a genius
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
8.5?

Smth like that. But that's why we don't make the trade because Suzuki is going to need an RFA contract thats a lot more.
May 13, 2020 at 1:14
#8
Subbanator
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Columbus says no pretty quickly.

That Chicago trade has to be one of the worst ones I've ever seen for the Habs. Both Weber and Danault hold more value then Toews and you're including even more significant pieces to acquire him. Very easy no

Toronto doesnt do that. Willy is locked up and they need wingers more then centers.
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May 13, 2020 at 1:15
#9
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I don’t see Chicago ever accepting that trade, it’s very lopsided and favors Montreal greatly.


You're joking right....... I wouldn't even trade Danult for Toews alone. This guy is adding Weber, Tatar and a top 10 pick. Its ridiculously lop sided to chicago
May 13, 2020 at 1:16
#10
Joined: Jan 2019
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Habs's D is bad and you want to trade Shea Weber? That's just fixing one issue (C) while at the same time making another issue worse (prospect pool and especially that D-Core).
May 13, 2020 at 1:23
#11
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
You're joking right....... I wouldn't even trade Danult for Toews alone. This guy is adding Weber, Tatar and a top 10 pick. Its ridiculously lop sided to chicago


It's not lopsided but it's bad for the Hawks in terms of lenghts of contracts. Toews's contract isn't good in terms of AAV but it ends in 3 years whereas Weber's has 6 more years. (Double amt of years compared to Toews) Either way this trade doesn't make any sense.

- MTL perspective: their D-Core gets much worse. Habs already have trouble to find the ideal LHD to replace Markov and now they also have to find the ideal RHD to replace Weber.
- CHI perspective: Hawks also have that absymal contract of Brent Seabrook which gives them 2 LT contract. (Weber and Seabrook)
May 13, 2020 at 2:15
#12
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Absolutely not a snowball's chance in hell on that Dubois trade. We end up without any top-6 centers, a bunch of picks we don't need and can't help us soon enough, and a fifth top-6 right wing. That trade would get Kekalainen burned in effigy.
May 13, 2020 at 3:42
#13
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Quoting: EzioUchiha
It's not lopsided but it's bad for the Hawks in terms of lenghts of contracts. Toews's contract isn't good in terms of AAV but it ends in 3 years whereas Weber's has 6 more years. (Double amt of years compared to Toews) Either way this trade doesn't make any sense.

- MTL perspective: their D-Core gets much worse. Habs already have trouble to find the ideal LHD to replace Markov and now they also have to find the ideal RHD to replace Weber.
- CHI perspective: Hawks also have that absymal contract of Brent Seabrook which gives them 2 LT contract. (Weber and Seabrook)


I look at it like two teams that will still live in mediocrity and if they go to sell off Chicago walks away with a much better sell off. Dont think either team gets out of the lottery with the trade which means Chicago likely sells off Tatar = 1st round pick + back in a return. They probably sign Danault for another contract so they have 6 more years with him in thier top 6 and if they chose to move on from Weber there's another 1st round pick plus another asset.

So essentially MTL is giving up 4 first round picks for a player who doesnt get them over the hump and by the end of it probably only gets you a late 1st and a decent prospect back in a trade as long as you retain a big part of his contract.

Toews also isnt needed in MTL, they have thier future centers coming and Danult is a good cheap stop gap. It's a bad trade looking at the logistics for each team but it definitely has a better ending for Chicago because they get a good young prospect at 8th overall and they would get to sell of every other pieces for minimum 1st rounders. While MTL would be left outside the playoffs and only able to sell of Toews for a return that would likely be the same as Tatar unless you retain heavily on his contract .
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May 13, 2020 at 5:27
#14
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
I look at it like two teams that will still live in mediocrity and if they go to sell off Chicago walks away with a much better sell off. Dont think either team gets out of the lottery with the trade which means Chicago likely sells off Tatar = 1st round pick + back in a return. They probably sign Danault for another contract so they have 6 more years with him in thier top 6 and if they chose to move on from Weber there's another 1st round pick plus another asset.

So essentially MTL is giving up 4 first round picks for a player who doesnt get them over the hump and by the end of it probably only gets you a late 1st and a decent prospect back in a trade as long as you retain a big part of his contract.

Toews also isnt needed in MTL, they have thier future centers coming and Danult is a good cheap stop gap. It's a bad trade looking at the logistics for each team but it definitely has a better ending for Chicago because they get a good young prospect at 8th overall and they would get to sell of every other pieces for minimum 1st rounders. While MTL would be left outside the playoffs and only able to sell of Toews for a return that would likely be the same as Tatar unless you retain heavily on his contract .


Well said my good friend.
 
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