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Sandin establishes himself as a top 4 in 2020-21

Created by: leafs101
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2020
Published: May 13, 2020
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Description
Hyman gets a tanev type deal
Tanev and demelo would have been signed last year, expiring this year
Both are overpaid so that they will take a lower term so that we can resign rielly, Robertson, sandin, kapanen, and liljegren

Braeden Schneider with TOR first rounder
Daniel Torgesson with the NSH second rounder
Antonio Stranges with TOR second rounder
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,000,000
4$750,000
2$925,000
3$2,750,000
2$2,000,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$3,250,000
1$5,000,000
1$4,100,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Schneider, Braeden
3$850,000
Torgersson, Daniel
3$850,000
Stranges, Antonio
3$850,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]
  2. Lemieux, Brendan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (DAL)
2.
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Mrazek
CAR
    Andersen at the 2020 draft
    3.
    TOR
    1. 2020 2nd round pick (NSH)
    Additional Details:
    (Rinne is CBOd)
    NSH
    1. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
    Additional Details:
    Mrazek
    4.
    TOR
      Where ever, for whatever fair value is
      5.
      TOR
      1. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
      Additional Details:
      meant to take a 2nd rounder in previous deal
      NYR
      1. 2020 3rd round pick (DAL)
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      2020
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      2021
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      22$83,500,000$83,444,227$0$400,000$55,773

      Roster

      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $3,250,000$3,250,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 7
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $11,640,250$11,640,250
      C
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $10,903,000$10,903,000
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      UFA - 4
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      $796,667$796,667
      LW, RW
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $11,000,000$11,000,000
      C, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $6,962,366$6,962,366
      RW
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $3,500,000$3,500,000
      LW, C, RW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $3,200,000$3,200,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      $1,250,000$1,250,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
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      $750,000$750,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $925,000$925,000
      RW
      RFA
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $809,444$809,444
      C
      RFA - 3
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      $5,000,000$5,000,000
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      $5,000,000$5,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 3
      $2,750,000$2,750,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $894,167$894,167
      LD
      UFA - 1
      $4,100,000$4,100,000
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      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $1,650,000$1,650,000
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      UFA - 1
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      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Stranges, Antonio
      $850,000$850,000
      Schneider, Braeden
      $850,000$850,000
      Torgersson, Daniel
      $850,000$850,000
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $766,667$766,667
      C
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      $799,766$799,766
      RD
      RFA - 1

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      May 13, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
      #1
      What in tarnation
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      Tanev got $3,5Mx6 after scoring a 29 point season.

      Hyman gets less than that, with more term, after being in pace for 60 points.

      Sounds logical, eh?

      Also NSH has no particular reason to move Rinne.
      May 13, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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      I don't hate the deal.
      May 13, 2020 at 7:53 p.m.
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      Anybody but Tanev. He is overrated
      Schneider won't fall to the leafs pick
      When Liljegren makes the lineup, mind as well trade holl
      May 13, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.
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      why trade muzzin, his leadership qualities and ability to block shots, lay out big hits, and be both offensive and defensive make him valuable. Rangers had the chance to move georgiev and they overvalued him. Plus muzzin chose to resign with the leafs when he could have left us in free agency that shows he wants to play here.
      May 13, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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      Quoting: aadoyle
      why trade muzzin, his leadership qualities and ability to block shots, lay out big hits, and be both offensive and defensive make him valuable. Rangers had the chance to move georgiev and they overvalued him. Plus muzzin chose to resign with the leafs when he could have left us in free agency that shows he wants to play here.


      because we have an LHD logjam and this assumes that sandin is far too good for the third pair after next season
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      May 13, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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      Your idea for Nashville using their CBO on Rinne is stupid... Rinne>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Turris. So why would their trade for another goalie when they have two... that trade is so dumb.
      May 13, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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      Quoting: justaBoss
      Tanev got $3,5Mx6 after scoring a 29 point season.

      Hyman gets less than that, with more term, after being in pace for 60 points.

      Sounds logical, eh?

      Also NSH has no particular reason to move Rinne.

      fair enough- look, if its not enough, move holl and give him an extra mil
      May 13, 2020 at 8:25 p.m.
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      Your idea for Nashville using their CBO on Rinne is stupid... Rinne>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Turris. So why would their trade for another goalie when they have two... that trade is so dumb.


      whatever, give him to someone else, I don't really care
      May 13, 2020 at 8:32 p.m.
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      whatever, give him to someone else, I don't really care


      Okay.... Tbh San Jose is a much smarter trade since buying out Jones seems likely, though they do have Vlasic.

      Also you do care or you wouldn’t be put off by the comment.
      May 13, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.
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      Okay.... Tbh San Jose is a much smarter trade since buying out Jones seems likely, though they do have Vlasic.

      Also you do care or you wouldn’t be put off by the comment.


      wasn't "put off" by it. I meant I don't care as in I don't care where he goes or what team's pick that we get back
      May 13, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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      I'd be pretty down for that Muzzin deal.
      Rangers probably getting the short end of the stick though
      May 13, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.
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      Rangers looking for an LD for like 1 year not 4 years cause if that was the case the Rangers would of just capped Brady Skjei ...You don't trade a 5.2m x 4 for another 5.6m x 4
      May 13, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: Root
      Rangers looking for an LD for like 1 year not 4 years cause if that was the case the Rangers would of just capped Brady Skjei ...You don't trade a 5.2m x 4 for another 5.6m x 4


      It would be 2 years left on his deal. Muzzin is also much better than Skjei
      May 13, 2020 at 9:05 p.m.
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      Rangers turn it down...if they wanted a dman signed through his mid 30's they would've kept McDonagh.
      May 13, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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      Quoting: Sagecoll
      Rangers turn it down...if they wanted a dman signed through his mid 30's they would've kept McDonagh.


      so you're just gonna throw one of nils and miller into a top 4 role in their first season without having any sort of contingency plan if they aren't ready? Also putting Lindgren on that top pairing wouldn't be particularly smart for his development either. Muzzin's deal expires when the deal of miller is up- its perfect, by then the two of them will be able to step up.
      May 13, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: leafs101
      so you're just gonna throw one of nils and miller into a top 4 role in their first season without having any sort of contingency plan if they aren't ready? Also putting Lindgren on that top pairing wouldn't be particularly smart for his development either. Muzzin's deal expires when the deal of miller is up- its perfect, by then the two of them will be able to step up.


      Nah. I’m gonna either
      A) move Trouba to LHD for a year or so.
      B) Acquire a cheap, solid short term option like Oleksiak, Cole, Murray etc.

      Rangers aren’t a cup contender next year. It’s a development year until Staal/Smith/Lundqvist are odd the books. Rangers did fine last year with Lindgren in a top 4 role. I don’t have too many concerns.

      We’ll take Dermott for cheap though.
      May 13, 2020 at 10:47 p.m.
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      Quoting: justaBoss
      Tanev got $3,5Mx6 after scoring a 29 point season.

      Hyman gets less than that, with more term, after being in pace for 60 points.

      Sounds logical, eh?

      Also NSH has no particular reason to move Rinne.


      You're right in your evaluation, but imo signing Hyman to a fairly big deal (let's say 4.5x6) after a career year would be a huge mistake.
      May 13, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
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      Quoting: Lights
      You're right in your evaluation, but imo signing Hyman to a fairly big deal (let's say 4.5x6) after a career year would be a huge mistake.


      Well we don't know how he'll perform in 2020-21 season, since this is a 2021-22 ACGM.

      If he scores another 50-60 point season, I think a contract in that range is deserved.
      May 13, 2020 at 10:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: justaBoss
      Well we don't know how he'll perform in 2020-21 season, since this is a 2021-22 ACGM.

      If he scores another 50-60 point season, I think a contract in that range is deserved.


      Ah yeah true, he'll still be under contract. My guess is Edmonton or NJ would go hard after him.
      May 13, 2020 at 11:14 p.m.
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      Quoting: Lights
      Ah yeah true, he'll still be under contract. My guess is Edmonton or NJ would go hard after him.


      Probably, although I don't see TOR letting him go easily as their left side is their weakest one.
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      May 14, 2020 at 4:18 a.m.
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      Quoting: leafs101
      because we have an LHD logjam and this assumes that sandin is far too good for the third pair after next season


      I'd rather move Dermott than Muzzin, I understand that Dermott is cheaper and younger but Muzzin is our best defensive dman and has intangibles. Plus if we let Dermott play a season (2020-21) top pairing with Rielly and hes good, could get great value for him in the offseason
      May 14, 2020 at 9:10 a.m.
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      Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
      I'd rather move Dermott than Muzzin, I understand that Dermott is cheaper and younger but Muzzin is our best defensive dman and has intangibles. Plus if we let Dermott play a season (2020-21) top pairing with Rielly and hes good, could get great value for him in the offseason


      This is if Sandin is indisputably a top 4. Then you're not gonna pay Muzzin 5.6 to play the bottom pairing when he's top 4 capable as well and could bring back assets
      May 14, 2020 at 9:13 a.m.
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      Quoting: leafs101
      This is if Sandin is indisputably a top 4. Then you're not gonna pay Muzzin 5.6 to play the bottom pairing when he's top 4 capable as well and could bring back assets


      I don't know why but I feel like Sandin could have success playing on the right side this year and having him and Muzzin as a 2nd pairing would be lethal. If it all played out nicely and this was the case, Dermott could either be moved or run the 3rd pairing with Holl/Liljegren
      May 14, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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      Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
      I don't know why but I feel like Sandin could have success playing on the right side this year and having him and Muzzin as a 2nd pairing would be lethal. If it all played out nicely and this was the case, Dermott could either be moved or run the 3rd pairing with Holl/Liljegren


      but do you want to push a young d man off of his comfortable side in his first or second year full year? If it doesn't go well it could really hurt his confidence and development
      May 14, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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      Quoting: leafs101
      but do you want to push a young d man off of his comfortable side in his first or second year full year? If it doesn't go well it could really hurt his confidence and development


      Leafs fans overthink which way dmen shoot so much. So many teams have guys playing on their offhand, its a normal thing that lots of players do
       
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