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Leafs Players Real Values

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2020
Published: May 13, 2020
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TOR
    3rd at most
    2.
    TOR
      2nd and a B prospect
      3.
      TOR
        Nobody wants this trash and that contract that Kyle Dumbass signed
        4.
        TOR
          Horrible defenseman. Leafs fans act like he’s top 4 lmao
          5.
          TOR
            Underrated defenseman. Worth a 2nd and little more
            6.
            TOR
              Top 4 LHD or multiple picks prospects
              7.
              TOR
                Nylander>Marner
                8.
                TOR
                  Should’ve never signed him. Doesn’t do shit for the leafs. Kadri was a good 1-2 and Tavares cap prevents leafs from being able to properly upgrade the defense and goaltending. Guarantee leafs won’t win a cup for the remainder of his contract.
                  9.
                  TOR
                    He’s on a non-qualifier level
                    10.
                    TOR
                      Don’t trade him. Great young player and I see him being a top 4 Dman.
                      11.
                      TOR
                        Why tf did they re-sign him when Sandin is coming up? Use the cap for a RHD!
                        12.
                        TOR
                          Freddy is likely done in Toronto. Looks like he won’t be able to re-sign and hasn’t been good enough in the playoffs.
                          13.
                          TOR
                            NOT WORTH COLTON PARAYKO.
                            14.
                            TOR
                              Decent 3rd liner. Leafs fans act like he’s Jesus Christ.
                              15.
                              TOR
                                King
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                                2021
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                                ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                                10$81,500,000$24,525,000$0$0$56,975,000
                                Left WingCentreRight Wing
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                                $750,000$750,000
                                LD
                                UFA - 2
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                                $4,500,000$4,500,000
                                RD
                                UFA - 1
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                                $2,750,000$2,750,000
                                RD
                                UFA - 1
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                                $700,000$700,000
                                LD
                                UFA - 1
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                                $675,000$675,000
                                C
                                UFA - 1
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                                $700,000$700,000
                                C, RW
                                NTC
                                UFA - 1
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                                $750,000$750,000
                                LW, RW
                                UFA - 1
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                                $5,250,000$5,250,000
                                RW
                                M-NTC, NMC
                                UFA - 1
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                                $5,300,000$5,300,000
                                RW
                                M-NTC, NMC
                                UFA - 1
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                                $850,000$850,000
                                LW, RW
                                RFA - 5
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                                May 13, 2020 at 11:43 p.m.
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                                Alright then, you feel better now princess?
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                                May 13, 2020 at 11:46 p.m.
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                                Terry_AkiSauce
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                                This guy is clueless, wonder what team he cheers for
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                                May 13, 2020 at 11:47 p.m.
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                                No regretzkys
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                                This would be the pessimistic view of the team. You're not necessarily wrong, but you're not right.
                                You could do this with any team and view them through a highly pessimistic and negative lens.
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                                May 13, 2020 at 11:48 p.m.
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                                I was expecting at least half decent but....
                                Ahahhhahahatears of joy hushed
                                Lmfaoooooo
                                May 13, 2020 at 11:50 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Boomer125
                                Alright then, you feel better now princess?


                                values are all wrong from both a fan stand point and a statistical standpoint lul

                                1. Johnsson could get a 3rd with conditions to become a 2nd if he scores 15 goals from a team like Dallas
                                2. Kapenan can get a low 1st if traded at the correct time
                                3. Kerfoot can easily get 2 third picks from a team needing a 3rd center as a he can easily bounce back to 40 points
                                4. Muzzin was a good resign as the leadership and defensive abilities he brings make it worth
                                5. Holl actually has been amazing this year. When paired with muzzin both produced amazing numbers compared to most 2nd pairing Dmen
                                6. Leafs dont need to move rielly for Parayko as the value for both teams aint there.
                                7. If Mikeyv hadnt gotten hurt he was on pace for 50 points so a 3rd for that is laughable. Besides leafs aint moving him
                                8. Despite the expensive contract Tavares has been amazing. Paired with Marner that line was unstoppable


                                Only thing I will agree on to some extent is bracco, liligren, sandin, and freddie
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                                May 14, 2020 at 12:02 a.m.
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                                No regretzkys
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                                Sorry, I'm back.. couldn't resist:

                                1) Leafs have no reason to trade cap for a pick and prospect. He is worth more.
                                2) Kerfoot is a decent player. Reasonable deal, only expensive relative to the Leafs cap situation.
                                3) Holl is a pretty good Dman, he is literally a top 4 defenceman by definition. On a top D core he would be a good 3rd pairing guy, but he is capable of a top 4 roll. Not all that far off from Tanev, Hamonic, Pesce, Dillon, Montour, Murphy (All top 4 guys) and he gets paid significantly less than all those guys.
                                4) Tavares had a down year. When you can get a guy like JT without losing assets, you do it.
                                5) Nylander is great. He is not better than Marner.
                                6) The Andersen thing is ridiculous.
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                                May 14, 2020 at 12:03 a.m.
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                                Quoting: aadoyle
                                values are all wrong from both a fan stand point and a statistical standpoint lul

                                1. Johnsson could get a 3rd with conditions to become a 2nd if he scores 15 goals from a team like Dallas
                                2. Kapenan can get a low 1st if traded at the correct time
                                3. Kerfoot can easily get 2 third picks from a team needing a 3rd center as a he can easily bounce back to 40 points
                                4. Muzzin was a good resign as the leadership and defensive abilities he brings make it worth
                                5. Holl actually has been amazing this year. When paired with muzzin both produced amazing numbers compared to most 2nd pairing Dmen
                                6. Leafs dont need to move rielly for Parayko as the value for both teams aint there.
                                7. If Mikeyv hadnt gotten hurt he was on pace for 50 points so a 3rd for that is laughable. Besides leafs aint moving him
                                8. Despite the expensive contract Tavares has been amazing. Paired with Marner that line was unstoppable


                                Only thing I will agree on to some extent is bracco, liligren, sandin, and freddie


                                Wow.. Beat me to it.
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                                May 14, 2020 at 12:03 a.m.
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                                i hope ur hungry now
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                                Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
                                This guy is clueless, wonder what team he cheers for


                                Buffalo tears of joy the team that is playing as an away team in its own arena against the leafs. No wonder he is mad.
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                                May 14, 2020 at 12:04 a.m.
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                                Quoting: MadLin27
                                Wow.. Beat me to it.


                                sorry those values brought out MR.GETYOURVALUESRIGHT. He doesnt like when people wrongfully value players.
                                May 14, 2020 at 12:06 a.m.
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                                Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
                                Buffalo tears of joy the team that is playing as an away team in its own arena against the leafs. No wonder he is mad.


                                the only thing I got to say about buffalo they could be a good trading partner for the leafs as we got to many LD and they got to many RD. But OTHER THAN THAT MEH.
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                                May 14, 2020 at 12:07 a.m.
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                                Quoting: aadoyle
                                the only thing I got to say about buffalo they could be a good trading partner for the leafs. But thats a BIG FAT MAYBE.


                                Nah I wouldn't trade with buffalo. too close.
                                May 14, 2020 at 12:10 a.m.
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                                Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
                                Nah I wouldn't trade with buffalo. too close.


                                wait so if buffalo is to close was ottawa close enough (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
                                May 14, 2020 at 12:14 a.m.
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                                Quoting: aadoyle
                                wait so if buffalo is to close was ottawa close enough (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻


                                Yes but those trades were a huge exception because they were mostly cap dumps. Buffalo is on their way up, and we don't want to trade key pieces to them because they could compete with us.
                                May 14, 2020 at 12:15 a.m.
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                                Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
                                Yes but those trades were a huge exception because they were mostly cap dumps. Buffalo is on their way up, and we don't want to trade key pieces to them because they could compete with us.


                                Oh i know ottawa and toronto have a good history of trading, I dont remember a single trade between the leafs and buffalo. Even calgary is better known for its trades with Toronto.
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                                May 14, 2020 at 12:19 a.m.
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                                Quoting: aadoyle
                                Oh i know ottawa and toronto have a good history of trading, I dont remember a single trade between the leafs and buffalo. Even calgary is better known for its trades with Toronto.


                                I guess there hasn't been much interest.
                                May 14, 2020 at 12:59 a.m.
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                                Good one bro. Matthews is still better then Eichel
                                May 14, 2020 at 3:18 a.m.
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                                Leafs suck )
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                                Look how easy you fairies get triggered to a joke. Sit back down.
                                May 14, 2020 at 4:09 a.m.
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                                Holl has a good year,but that shows how weak the leafs defence is.If Holl plays fore a team like Nashville,Caroliner,St.Louis or Colorado he probably not make the roster.
                                May 14, 2020 at 6:16 a.m.
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                                Quoting: aadoyle
                                values are all wrong from both a fan stand point and a statistical standpoint lul

                                1. Johnsson could get a 3rd with conditions to become a 2nd if he scores 15 goals from a team like Dallas
                                2. Kapenan can get a low 1st if traded at the correct time
                                3. Kerfoot can easily get 2 third picks from a team needing a 3rd center as a he can easily bounce back to 40 points
                                4. Muzzin was a good resign as the leadership and defensive abilities he brings make it worth
                                5. Holl actually has been amazing this year. When paired with muzzin both produced amazing numbers compared to most 2nd pairing Dmen
                                6. Leafs dont need to move rielly for Parayko as the value for both teams aint there.
                                7. If Mikeyv hadnt gotten hurt he was on pace for 50 points so a 3rd for that is laughable. Besides leafs aint moving him
                                8. Despite the expensive contract Tavares has been amazing. Paired with Marner that line was unstoppable


                                Only thing I will agree on to some extent is bracco, liligren, sandin, and freddie


                                I agree. As a Leafs fan, I think his/her values are a little lower than they should be. That said, I wonder how Mikheyev or Johhnson or Kapenan would do away from guys like Tavares and Matthews, Crosby has a history of making 3rd liners have 1st liner stats. I wonder if the same is true for stars like Matthews, Tavares and/or Marner?
                                May 14, 2020 at 7:46 a.m.
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                                Quoting: markmws
                                I agree. As a Leafs fan, I think his/her values are a little lower than they should be. That said, I wonder how Mikheyev or Johhnson or Kapenan would do away from guys like Tavares and Matthews, Crosby has a history of making 3rd liners have 1st liner stats. I wonder if the same is true for stars like Matthews, Tavares and/or Marner?


                                All those players you mentioned are also paid like 3rd liners - unlike Skinner and we all saw how well he does without Eichel
                                May 14, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Boomer125
                                All those players you mentioned are also paid like 3rd liners - unlike Skinner and we all saw how well he does without Eichel


                                HA! I totally agree. MAN that Skinner contract is just awful! I know when they signed him that it was going to be a bad contract: Skinner is so streaky.
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                                May 14, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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                                Quoting: Boomer125
                                All those players you mentioned are also paid like 3rd liners - unlike Skinner and we all saw how well he does without Eichel


                                Will Buffalo ever win?? My money would be on the "not in my lifetime" pool.tears of joy . Ha...yeah, they'll be fine....
                                 
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