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Acquiring a second line

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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: May 18, 2020
Published: May 18, 2020
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5$5,500,000
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6$6,500,000
3$3,500,000
2$900,000
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20$81,500,000$81,979,167$1,487,500$3,487,500-$479,167
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C
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G
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May 18, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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I'm not sure that pile of crap would even get you one of those players... Maybe Bert.
May 18, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
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That's acquiring a first line
That's not even enough for Larkin
May 18, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
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Interesting trade.. DET is taking a big risk though, ome they r prob not willing to do
May 18, 2020 at 2:34 p.m.
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Take that trash out of there and put in Dahlin.
May 18, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
I'm not sure that pile of crap would even get you one of those players... Maybe Bert.


pile of crap?

1st round pick
Dylan Cozens, one of the top prospects in the world
Mattias Samuelsson: 32nd overall 2018
Casey Mittelstadt 7th overall 2017
Ristolainen, 2nd pairing defensemen who puts up points.
Hutton, back up goalie.
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May 18, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Take that trash out of there and put in Dahlin.


laughlaugh laugh laugh laugh
May 18, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Mittelstadt=Meh, Cozens Yes please, Don't really no much about Samuelsson Ristolainen no thanks Hutton don't need an aging goalie during a rebuild needs to be the 2020 1st round pick. And i still doubt Yzerman does it.
May 18, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
pile of crap?

1st round pick
Dylan Cozens, one of the top prospects in the world
Mattias Samuelsson: 32nd overall 2018
Casey Mittelstadt 7th overall 2017
Ristolainen, 2nd pairing defensemen who puts up points.
Hutton, back up goalie.


it's a pile of steaming crap considering the return.
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May 18, 2020 at 2:38 p.m.
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it's a pile of steaming crap considering the return.


Its not a realistic, or good trade, but hes not throwing Jeremy Bracco's and Justin Holl's out there.
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May 18, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
pile of crap?

1st round pick
Dylan Cozens, one of the top prospects in the world
Mattias Samuelsson: 32nd overall 2018
Casey Mittelstadt 7th overall 2017
Ristolainen, 2nd pairing defensemen who puts up points.
Hutton, back up .


laugh laugh laugh 7th overall Casey Mittelstadt that's putting up 3C numbers Yeah no thanks.
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May 18, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
pile of crap?

1st round pick
Dylan Cozens, one of the top prospects in the world
Mattias Samuelsson: 32nd overall 2018
Casey Mittelstadt 7th overall 2017
Ristolainen, 2nd pairing defensemen who puts up points.
Hutton, back up goalie.


Mittelstadt has virtually no value.
If I'm being generous, neither does Hutton.
Risto has enormous negative value
The 1st isn't even this years and carries some value (roughly 10th ovr)
Cozens has good value
Samuelsson is a B prospect.

All in all it is a pile of crap with a Shiny Cozens on top
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May 18, 2020 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh laugh 7th overall Casey Mittelstadt that's putting up 3C numbers Yeah no thanks.


3C in the AHL maybe...
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May 18, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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3C in the AHL maybe...


Good point, Already looking like bust to me.
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May 18, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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Edited May 18, 2020 at 2:54 p.m.
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3C in the AHL maybe...


Double
May 18, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh laugh 7th overall Casey Mittelstadt that's putting up 3C numbers Yeah no thanks.


I like to think of him as a future Anthony Mantha in 4 and 1/8th seasons awesome face
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May 18, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
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Mittelstadt has virtually no value.
If I'm being generous, neither does Hutton.
Risto has enormous negative value
The 1st isn't even this years and carries some value (roughly 10th ovr)
Cozens has good value
Samuelsson is a B prospect.

All in all it is a pile of crap with a Shiny Cozens on top


I'll remember this nonsense the next time i see jeremy bracco go for a 3rd
May 18, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Good point, Already looking like bust to me.


So is this the marker, all 2017 draft picks who arent stars are already busts? You keep talking about lindstrom and being "all set" at RHD with his all of 16 games
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May 18, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I like to think of him as a future Anthony Mantha in 4 and 1/8th seasons awesome face


I'll betcha any money that Joe Veleno has a better career then Casey Mittelstadt?
May 18, 2020 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
So is this the marker, all 2017 draft picks who arent stars are already busts? You keep talking about lindstrom and being "all set" at RHD with his all of 16 games


He was listed as a possibility on the 3rd pairing, Anymore i agree that Lindstrom probably plays in GR next season since he's waiver eligible.
May 18, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
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I'll betcha any money that Joe Veleno has a better career then Casey Mittelstadt?


by the way, at the point of his career Casey Mittelstadt is at, anthony mantha had 10 career games. im sure youd have gone to the mat against anyone calling him a bust at that point.
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May 18, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
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laugh laugh laugh 7th overall Casey Mittelstadt that's putting up 3C numbers Yeah no thanks.


Bertuzzi's first 2 seasons he was putting up bottom 6 numbers until the age of 23. Mantha hit his first 20 goal season at age 23. Mittelstadt is 21 and already assuming he is a bust is plain stupid. You say nothing but asinine comments
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May 18, 2020 at 3:40 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
pile of crap?

1st round pick
Dylan Cozens, one of the top prospects in the world
Mattias Samuelsson: 32nd overall 2018
Casey Mittelstadt 7th overall 2017
Ristolainen, 2nd pairing defensemen who puts up points.
Hutton, back up goalie.


I like how you're pretending draft position means anything without context of if the player is actually good and valuable or not.
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May 18, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
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Ask yourself which of the players on the Buffalo side is better than ANY of the players on the Detroit side.

If the answer is "none," i.e., you have an IQ in three digits and a measurable heartbeat, then why would Detroit send you the three best players in the deal?!?

Look at this another way: Larkin, 389 NHL games; Mantha, 260 NHL games; Bertuzzi, 199 NHL games. All of them are proven performers. On the other side, we have Ristolainen (let's assume he has the value littlejerryseinfeld puts on him), a backup goaltender who is nothing more than a throw-in, Casey Mittelstadt, who has 114 games with no particular distinction, and two guys who don't even have a single game of professional hockey experience. So in return for three high-quality NHL regulars, you're sending Risto, Hutton, an undeveloped high draft pick and three prospects. I don't think that's remotely in the universe of what might laughingly be called in polite company reasonable.

Here's yet another way to look at it: if (and it's a big if) Cozens turns out to be as good as Larkin; if Mittelstadt or the first turn out to be as good as Mantha; and if Samuelsson turns out to be as good as Bertuzzi, then Detroit will be back to average, but having traded time for Risto and Hutton. In short, Detroit is assuming all of the risk here, because we all know what their trio is capable of.
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May 18, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
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Bertuzzi's first 2 seasons he was putting up bottom 6 numbers until the age of 23. Mantha hit his first 20 goal season at age 23. Mittelstadt is 21 and already assuming he is a bust is plain stupid. You say nothing but asinine comments


Dude Mittelstadt has 39 points in 114 career NHL games. That's like a .333 average per 82 games which translates to 27 points over the course of a 82 game season. Don't make him out to be anything he's not at best he's a 3C nothing more.
May 18, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.
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More realistic counter:
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BUF 2021 1st
BUF 2022 1st
Cozens
Jokiharju
Middlestadt
Risto
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