Eric Staal can stay away, Thanks.

MTL would just be better off keeping Domi and playing him at wing over Greenway. Stalock really doesn't do anything for them either.

Hunt is only worth a 4th or 5th. Trading him + 4th might get you a mid 3rd round pick.

I don't think NYR is the team that will want a Staal rental at the TDL next year. I also don't think MN will be sellers at the TDL next year. Sitting on the fence or slight buyers (rental goalie or rental bottom-6 C).

I don't see the Jets paying a premium for Dumba.

And Lindgren + Byron vs Kirill Kaprizov
Deal

That’s not a good return for Domi....Greenwood has shown no signs of being a top 6 winger, Stalock may be a good option but something of way more value would need to be included.

Domi is reaching his prime and Dumba May start declining yet the return for Dumba you’re suggesting is way better. Easy no from habs,

lol is Guerin's actual response to that proposal.

That is a very underwhelming offer for Domi.

Unless at least one top prospect or one 1st round pick is involved, no package of essentially futures is going to move the needle. Habs are not trying to move this guy at all costs or anything. This isn't a mike Hoffman in Ottawa situation.

Swap Greenway for Beckman or Boldy and your offer gets in the ballpark.

There would be a riot in Minnesota if Kaprizov gets traded. He's already a star here

This offer for Domi is really bad, so I did one bad to even it out

Not even close.

Domi is a 44 point forward with 1 70 point season that the OP is offering a young forward, a cheap backup goalie, and a 2nd for. You offered a cap dump and a prospect for the best prospect out of the NHL.

Domi only did one 40 points season in Arizona, he’s a 50+ points forward

Are we talking about the same Max Domi?

15/16 52
16/17 38
17/18 45
18/19 72
19/20 44

Habs fans... lol

The only part about Domi in their assessment that I agree with is that they don't NEED to move him. However, I would have to say his value has peaked and will be on the decline, so I make these trades actually for their benefit. Domi is a 2nd liner at best... a 40 -50 point support guy... he isn't carrying a line.

His value should be around the same as what VGK traded Tatar for... a first, second and third. Greenway holds the value of a first, Stalock a 3rd (and fills a desperate need for MTL), and potentially a pair of 2nds if he lives up to the supposed value he carries.

It's funny how if a mediocre to average player spends any time with the Habs their value suddenly skyrockets. If MTL was BUYING Domi from any other team, I bet they'd be doing it for a pair of 2nds and that's all.

Oh I agree they might not even want to move him. They have Suzuki coming up, but how ready is he? Can they keep Danaul when his deal is up? Does keeping Domi and moving him to the wing make more sense since so many Habs fans have pointed out he doesn't have anyone to play with? Keeping him might make the most sense, but this insane value they think he carries is getting to be a bit much.

That’s all on 82 games right ...

Glass houses man, you talk about MTL fans overvaluing players while saying Greenway, a 23 year old bottom 6 winger, is worth a 1st. And Stalock doesn't really do much, at least until part way into the season considering Primeau and the signing of Demchenko.
Also, Domi has, based on points per game, been on pace for 50 every season but 1, so saying 40-50 point guy comes off as an undersell, even if it's accurate do him having some injury issues. I mean he was on pace for 50 this season and even non MTL fans are saying it was a down season, not just a regression but a down season. Domi is better, younger, and an RFA when compared to Tatar at the time of the Vegas trade, so he would be worth more.
A comparison would be Lehkonen, Juulsen and a 2nd for Brodin, Wild fans would be rightly insulted.

You guys are stupid. Tatar-Danault-Gallagher are un breakable, Suzuki is the 2C and Domi DOESN’T want to play winger. So that leaves Domi centering the 3rd line, but we have Kotkaniemi and Poehling who can play 3C. If Domi really want to play center, we could move Suzuki on the RW, but Suzuki is a better center than Domi is. And YES, Domi was carrying is line when he did 72 points with Drouin/Lehkonen and Shaw. This year Cousins and Weal were just no good enough Drouin/Lehkonen/Shaw >> Cousins Weal. We won’t trade Domi for spare parts, Greenway is useless, we already have Tatar Drouin Lehkonen Byron playing LW. We can sign a backup goalie this summer better than Stalock, so this trade is just bad. Domi is good AF, it’s just annoying he wants to play center instead of winger.

Weird, I missed where the league adjusts point totals for guys playing less than 82 games.

Well Greenway wouldn't be useless if you let the Habs trade for him, he'd get top 6 minutes and become a valuable 44 point forward just for wearing the Habs jersey.

I like Greenway a lot, but he doesn't have the value of a 1st. He's trending to be a 3rd liner 150 games into his career. There is still time to turn into the power FWD Wild fans hope he becomes, but his stats are on par with Foligno his first 150 NHL games.

perhaps MTL would prefer Ek? I figured they'd want the gameplay style that Domi had, but I would have to agree than he seems like a third liner. My assessment might be a bit high, but I was also being generous in what I was giving to MTL, though I'm sure their fans would strongly disagree with that.

You think a different 23 year old 3rd liner would change the value? A 2nd rounder, a backup goalie that as I already pointed out in my previous post isn't even likely something MTL is looking for in the offseason, and a 3rd liner isn't a generous offer for a 2C and whether you like it or not that's where Domi's stats put him. Again, the best comparison to your offer is Lehkonen, Juulsen and a 2nd for Brodin, and no Wild fan is taking that.

Greenway/Ek > Lehkonen. Stalock > Juulsen. And Brodin > Domi. (Though I'll give you that Brodin as a UFA balances it) Of course they wouldn't take that. Lehkonen is also largely overvalued by habs fans. He's more of a bottom six player than either of those I offered.

There might be a difference between a 2nd line center and a third line center, but you are enlarging it to be far more drastic than it should be. Also I am trading for his rights here, not a set contract. He might demand so much money that MTL won't want to sign him and that they are forced to trade him for the sake of the team long term.
If he was already signed and there was more clarity on what his contract picture was like, a reasonable contract would warrant him a higher return.

Lehkonen is also a 3rd line winger, of similar age to Greenway and Ek, and while less talented offensively is better defensively, pick what you value more in your bottom 6 and that's who has more value. Personally I would go Ek-Lehkonen-Greenway, but to each their own. Backups have less value than they should, simply because some prospect could jump out of nowhere and make the trade a waste of value, and while Juulsen does have low value do to injury with Primeau and the Demchenko signing it's doubtful MTL views him as less valuable than a backup during the offseason.
Brodin would be a rental who could leave for nothing if his ask is to high or just if he feels like it, while even Domi's rights give you value because he is an RFA, so Domi has more value than Brodin without an extension.
Seriously though, you're overvaluing Wild players, while trying to be on a high horse about Habs fans overvaluing Habs players. Look at past deals for young 50 point RFA centers, they don't come this cheap. Rentals cost more.