SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Big center shuffle BUF MTL EDM

Created by: truculence67
Team: 2020-21 Nashville Predators
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2020
Published: May 19, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$800,000
3$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
1$700,000
5$5,750,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,500,000
2$4,000,000
2$750,000
1$725,000
Trades
1.
NSH
  1. Neal, James
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
NSH
  1. Bryson, Jacob
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Johansen, Ryan
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
3.
NSH
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Montreal trades for Hertl
MTL
  1. Afanasyev, Egor
  2. Davies, Jeremy
  3. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
Lower of the two firsts
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the MIN
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
2021
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
2022
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NSH
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$79,491,142$0$3,700,000$3,008,858
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$4,100,000$4,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,857,143$2,857,143
C, RW
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$9,059,000$9,059,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$889,166$889,166
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$733,333$733,333
RD
UFA - 3

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
May 19, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
#1
Former Hockey Fan
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2017
Posts: 13,144
Likes: 10,516
Why on earth would we trade Domi away for prospects or trade for Hertl? Hertl is a centre just like Domi, it’s completely useless to trade Domi away if we’re just getting a centre in return, especially if we need to add.
May 19, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
#2
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2017
Posts: 27,133
Likes: 14,147
I dont think buffalo can fit johansen in without sending salary back.
dzmets liked this.
May 19, 2020 at 3:15 p.m.
#3
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 125
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Why on earth would we trade Domi away for prospects or trade for Hertl? Hertl is a centre just like Domi, it’s completely useless to trade Domi away if we’re just getting a centre in return, especially if we need to add.


Hertl is a bona fide 1C, domi is not. Montreal is never going to be a true contender as long as they fill out their roster with middle six players. I honestly don’t think there is a single team in the league that would trade their three best players straight up for any three guys on the Canadiens. Maybe Minnesota.
dzmets liked this.
May 19, 2020 at 3:27 p.m.
#4
MisstheWhalers
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2019
Posts: 23,556
Likes: 12,310
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I dont think buffalo can fit johansen in without sending salary back.


Would sending Johansson to Nashville be enough?
That'd be a great trade for Buffalo imo.
gretzkyghosts liked this.
May 19, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
#5
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 23,771
Likes: 7,649
I think Nashville should be kicking something into the Edmonton trade, not the Oilers. Turris has a higher cap hit AND an extra year on his deal.
mk458 and OldNYIfan liked this.
May 19, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
#6
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 2,709
Likes: 1,053
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I dont think buffalo can fit johansen in without sending salary back.


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I dont think buffalo can fit johansen in without sending salary back.


Agreed if Nashville retains 2 million per maybe buffalo does that deal or if Nashville takes Okposo and then gives a 3rd instead of a second
May 19, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
#7
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 125
Quoting: CD282
I think Nashville should be kicking something into the Edmonton trade, not the Oilers. Turris has a higher cap hit AND an extra year on his deal.


No way. You have to account for the fact that Turris is still a very good, albeit expensive, 3C while Neal is basically a pp specialist at this point in his career. I made this trade because the buyout for Neal is slightly less punitive than for Turris. Edmonton avoids adding more dead salary to the books by buying out Neal and fills their 3C hole. The contract differences are marginal for Edmonton at this point
May 19, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
#8
MK458
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2017
Posts: 2,103
Likes: 928
Turris has a higher cap hit and an extra year on his deal. I would think Edmonton isn't interested unless nashville is retaining salary to make the cap hit even
CD282 liked this.
May 19, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
#9
Go Preds
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2016
Posts: 682
Likes: 229
I don't like any of this. I'll keep Turris before trading for/buying out Neal. BUF/MTL trades, meh. This team still has a middle 6 wing scoring problem if Tolvanen isn't NHL ready. Who do you protect in expansion if you sign Tanev? The Hoffman contract has Turris 2.0 written all over it.
May 19, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
#10
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 473
Likes: 233
A late first and prospects at positions MTL doesn't need isn't likely to be accepted for Domi. Weirded things have happened but I wouldn't count on it.
May 19, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.
#11
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2017
Posts: 27,133
Likes: 14,147
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Would sending Johansson to Nashville be enough?
That'd be a great trade for Buffalo imo.


It would help in 2020-21, but not the other 4 years. Also johansson is good and Johansen has dropped off
May 19, 2020 at 3:41 p.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2019
Posts: 9,506
Likes: 6,514
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It would help in 2020-21, but not the other 4 years. Also johansson is good and Johansen has dropped off


No way...it isn't good, mitts has potential to be a Johanson but better in a couple years, and we give up a first which is 2 much for him and Bryson
May 19, 2020 at 3:42 p.m.
#13
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 125
Quoting: J2W
A late first and prospects at positions MTL doesn't need isn't likely to be accepted for Domi. Weirded things have happened but I wouldn't count on it.


Davies is an nhl-ready puck moving LHD. He’d slot in very well on Montreal’s third pair. Afanasyev is a fast 6’4” 200 lb winger who can also play center. Not really sure how these prospects don’t fit positional needs for Montreal.
May 19, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
#14
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 473
Likes: 233
Edited May 19, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
Quoting: truculence67
Davies is an nhl-ready puck moving LHD. He’d slot in very well on Montreal’s third pair. Afanasyev is a fast 6’4” 200 lb winger who can also play center. Not really sure how these prospects don’t fit positional needs for Montreal.


MTL has plenty of young C right now, and if they are trading for Hertl like your trade desription says then that's another. The fact that you are trying to use size as a selling point either means you can't sell Afanasyev based on his skill and potential, or that you think size somehow equals value. Either way he doesn't fill an organizational need so he doesn't move the needle much. MTL also has plenty of 3rd pairing LD what they need is a legit top pairing LD. They also have a nice pool of prospects at LD.
May 19, 2020 at 3:53 p.m.
#15
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 23,771
Likes: 7,649
Quoting: truculence67
No way. You have to account for the fact that Turris is still a very good, albeit expensive, 3C while Neal is basically a pp specialist at this point in his career. I made this trade because the buyout for Neal is slightly less punitive than for Turris. Edmonton avoids adding more dead salary to the books by buying out Neal and fills their 3C hole. The contract differences are marginal for Edmonton at this point


The extra year is huge. Turris isn't "still very good" and four years down the road he'll be much worse.
May 19, 2020 at 3:57 p.m.
#16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2018
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 748
I would rather just buy out Neal then take on Turris for 4 more years at 6M. The Neal buyout would only be 1.9M
May 19, 2020 at 4:17 p.m.
#17
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2019
Posts: 14,042
Likes: 5,158
This is horrible for MTL
Even if we trade for Hertl, Danault will remain the 1C no matter what
May 19, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
#18
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 7,120
Likes: 1,640
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Why on earth would we trade Domi away for prospects or trade for Hertl? Hertl is a centre just like Domi, it’s completely useless to trade Domi away if we’re just getting a centre in return, especially if we need to add.


Hertl is better and cheaper for the time being
May 19, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
#19
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 5,081
Likes: 1,433
Quoting: Boomer125
Hertl is better and cheaper for the time being

Both are coming from career high last season, both are under .70 ppg in their career and Domi have been cheaper the past 2 season just to make thing clear.
May 19, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
#20
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 23,771
Likes: 7,649
Quoting: mk458
Turris has a higher cap hit and an extra year on his deal. I would think Edmonton isn't interested unless nashville is retaining salary to make the cap hit even


Nashville is saving $6.75M in this deal, that's certainly worth a pick or two. If they were to retain even part of that it would lower the value of the pick owed to Edmonton. What do you think? Turris with $1M retained ($4M total) + a 3rd for Neal? It still saves Nashville nearly $3M.
mk458 liked this.
May 19, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.
#21
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 7,120
Likes: 1,640
Quoting: Sebybbq
Both are coming from career high last season, both are under .70 ppg in their career and Domi have been cheaper the past 2 season just to make thing clear.


Has been, he won't be, he's coming in at 6/6.5 - and Hertl is better
May 19, 2020 at 6:28 p.m.
#22
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 5,081
Likes: 1,433
Quoting: Boomer125
Has been, he won't be, he's coming in at 6/6.5 - and Hertl is better


No Hertl isn’t better! You have absolutely nothing to prove that point. You opinion is not a fact and in that case have no credibility at all. And have you speak with Bergevin or Pat Brisson?
May 19, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
#23
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 125
Quoting: CD282
Nashville is saving $6.75M in this deal, that's certainly worth a pick or two. If they were to retain even part of that it would lower the value of the pick owed to Edmonton. What do you think? Turris with $1M retained ($4M total) + a 3rd for Neal? It still saves Nashville nearly $3M.


I don’t follow your math to be honest. But here’s my logic: Edmonton adds a mid-round pick to this deal because it saves them a buyout this year. Edmonton is going to have to buyout Neal to afford an upgrade at 3C unless they decide to go with a cheap FA like ennis or roll with an unproven rookie like marody. A 3C usually earns 3-4 million in salary. So Neal buyout (2mil) + 3C addition comes in at a slightly smaller cap hit than Turris. But Edmonton gives up way less for Turris in a trade than they would have to for other 3C options, and they avoid a buyout this year.
May 19, 2020 at 7:16 p.m.
#24
MisstheWhalers
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2019
Posts: 23,556
Likes: 12,310
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It would help in 2020-21, but not the other 4 years. Also johansson is good and Johansen has dropped off


But you'd solve your 2C issue for years and ya gotta think Johansen will rebound, even if he's overpaid it's really not by much considering Hayes is making $7M, really think there's something wrong in Nashville with their systems more so then a decline from some of their players. Also Johansen is signed through his prime, he'd be a great addition for the Sabres imo.
I really like Johansson but he's older and set to be a UFA, if he goes the other way to land a 2C then so be it.
Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
No way...it isn't good, mitts has potential to be a Johanson but better in a couple years, and we give up a first which is 2 much for him and Bryson


In a couple years, really the Sabres have a couple more years to wait? No they don't, they really need to make the playoffs and Johansen would help get them there, yeah you're trading a 1st but in this scenario you're getting a 2nd from the same draft so that helps and who cares about Bryson, every team has D prospects like him so so what, where would he fit on the Sabres D core anyway.
I think this trade would be a win for the Sabres as long as they can balance the cap when Dahlin needs a raise but by then hopefully Okposo is gone and that cap space is available.
May 19, 2020 at 7:23 p.m.
#25
MisstheWhalers
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2019
Posts: 23,556
Likes: 12,310
Quoting: truculence67
I don’t follow your math to be honest. But here’s my logic: Edmonton adds a mid-round pick to this deal because it saves them a buyout this year. Edmonton is going to have to buyout Neal to afford an upgrade at 3C unless they decide to go with a cheap FA like ennis or roll with an unproven rookie like marody. A 3C usually earns 3-4 million in salary. So Neal buyout (2mil) + 3C addition comes in at a slightly smaller cap hit than Turris. But Edmonton gives up way less for Turris in a trade than they would have to for other 3C options, and they avoid a buyout this year.


Yeah I think it'd be a good swap for both teams but especially Edmonton, they really need a 3C and Turris can still be effective.

I really think some fans get too hung up on the minor things like here with the extra year of term Turris has, it's 4 seasons from now, so much can and will likely change by then it probably won't matter and even if it does just deal with it later.

I'm a big fan of the bad signings swaps though so I'd love to see this trade happen.. Lol
truculence67 liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll