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31 in 31 cap hell edition

Created by: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2020
Published: May 19, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
20 man roster lol
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
4$5,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$950,000
Trades
1.
TBL
    CBO
    2.
    TBL
    1. 2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
    COL
    1. Palat, Ondrej
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (TBL)
    3. 2021 5th round pick (TBL)
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$80,700,000$0$0$800,000
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $925,000$925,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $900,000$900,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $900,000$900,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,650,000$1,650,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $5,200,000$5,200,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    G
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,300,000$1,300,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3

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    May 19, 2020 at 7:46 p.m.
    #1
    Dubas isnt a genius
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    Cirelli instead takes a 6.5m offersheet, and Cernak instead takes a 3m offersheet. You likely can't keep them both at this point.
    May 19, 2020 at 7:50 p.m.
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    No CBO, Palat isn't waiving. Killorn is the only movable piece as he can be dealt to 14 teams without his permission. Cirelli is way underpaid and gets far more on a offer sheet somewhere.
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    May 19, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
    #3
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    Let Shatty walk, call up Foote
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    May 19, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: firezfurx
    Cirelli instead takes a 6.5m offersheet, and Cernak instead takes a 3m offersheet. You likely can't keep them both at this point.


    I would bet the offer sheets Point recieved were 9M or more. He turned them all down. Any OS of 6.5M has to be for 6+ years for Cirelli to probably consider it. Same with Cernak, an OS of 3M is like a 2M deal in Tampa.
    May 20, 2020 at 1:54 a.m.
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    theres a clear difference between point taking a team friendly deal and these guys getting offer sheeted for 200% of what tampa can give them. If somebody throws $8mm at sergachev for whatever term he says, A. its hard to say no, and B. its impossible for tampa to match.
    May 20, 2020 at 5:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Same with Cernak, an OS of 3M is like a 2M deal in Tampa.

    That's not how taxes work. Max tax advantage based on state location is in the neighborhood of 13% (ignoring Canada's provincial rates for the moment). A far cry from your dubious 33%. The funny part is...adjusting for cost of living and sales & use tax, Tampa is actually more expensive than many NHL cities with higher taxes so the players are actually screwing themselves in some cases where the tax advantage isn't so great.
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    May 20, 2020 at 6:17 a.m.
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    Quoting: Taxtime
    That's not how taxes work. Max tax advantage based on state location is in the neighborhood of 13% (ignoring Canada's provincial rates for the moment). A far cry from your dubious 33%. The funny part is...adjusting for cost of living and sales & use tax, Tampa is actually more expensive than many NHL cities with higher taxes so the players are actually screwing themselves in some cases where the tax advantage isn't so great.


    You actually made an entire account just to tell me my exaggeration is not precise?
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    May 20, 2020 at 6:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: Slimycoldcutswork
    theres a clear difference between point taking a team friendly deal and these guys getting offer sheeted for 200% of what tampa can give them. If somebody throws $8mm at sergachev for whatever term he says, A. its hard to say no, and B. its impossible for tampa to match.


    Next time you are responding to me hit the quote button or i wont see it (i saw the response after yours that quoted me).
    Players care about more then just their cap hit. Bonuses, QO's, winning are all important when signing a contract. Also things like trust in management and previously built relations with team members and staff. Montreal traded Sergachev before he was even given a chance to play for them i would be surprised if even looks at any offer sheet recieved from them. If a team offers him an an 8Mx5yr deal sure he will sign it since it walks him to UFA and he gets paid big.
    On the other hand you have the GM's POV. Before sending out an OS they have to acknowledge that this would cause bad relations between the 2 teams for future trading if its signed regardless of it being matched or not. Also the GM has to evaluate the player they are send an offer sheet to so they arent drastically overpaying the player. In the case of Sergachev any GM who sends him an offer of 8M is a complete idiot. Why would he deserve more then players like McAvoy, Werenski, and Provorov, who are all better then him and making marginally less then that
    May 24, 2020 at 4:26 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Next time you are responding to me hit the quote button or i wont see it (i saw the response after yours that quoted me).
    Players care about more then just their cap hit. Bonuses, QO's, winning are all important when signing a contract. Also things like trust in management and previously built relations with team members and staff. Montreal traded Sergachev before he was even given a chance to play for them i would be surprised if even looks at any offer sheet recieved from them. If a team offers him an an 8Mx5yr deal sure he will sign it since it walks him to UFA and he gets paid big.
    On the other hand you have the GM's POV. Before sending out an OS they have to acknowledge that this would cause bad relations between the 2 teams for future trading if its signed regardless of it being matched or not. Also the GM has to evaluate the player they are send an offer sheet to so they arent drastically overpaying the player. In the case of Sergachev any GM who sends him an offer of 8M is a complete idiot. Why would he deserve more then players like McAvoy, Werenski, and Provorov, who are all better then him and making marginally less then that


    great. my point still stands. nothing is preventing a GM from being an idiot.
     
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