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I really think smith would be a great fit, don’t know what his value is on a 1 year but I fell that 5.5M with the non cap increase is the max
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May 20, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.
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Think that CGY trade is extremely meh for them.
May 20, 2020 at 9:45 a.m.
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Add Studnicka and Flames might consider
May 20, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Add Studnicka and Flames might consider


Either you're biased or you're overvaluing him. Hanifin is good but he still is a top4 D at the moment. Anyways, don't really need him.
May 20, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Add Studnicka and Flames might consider


Well obviously lol, but add Studnicka and the bruins laugh
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May 20, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Either you're biased or you're overvaluing him. Hanifin is good but he still is a top4 D at the moment. Anyways, don't really need him.


Moore is a bottom pairing to #7 cap dump, Bjork is a bottom 6 player, and Vaakanainen is a projected to be a decent 3rd pairing defensive dman. To get a solid 23 year old top 4 Dman on a good long term contract with lots of potential still something of actual value has to be traded.
May 20, 2020 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Well obviously lol, but add Studnicka and the bruins laugh


Because hes your only center prospects that can maybe replace Krejci im aware. However the OG offer isnt remotely close and studicka actually makes it worth considering for Calgary. I get why Bruins dont want to move him but you also dont get good assets for free either.
May 20, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Because hes your only center prospects that can maybe replace Krejci im aware. However the OG offer isnt remotely close and studicka actually makes it worth considering for Calgary. I get why Bruins dont want to move him but you also dont get good assets for free either.


Of course, but Calgary doesnt get a bunch of free amazing prospects either.
The original offer is good value wise (unless of course you are undervaluing the bruins players)

So bruins dont accept the offer with stud because its a bad offer
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May 20, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Of course, but Calgary doesnt get a bunch of free amazing prospects either.
The original offer is good value wise (unless of course you are undervaluing the bruins players)

So bruins dont accept the offer with stud because its a bad offer


Who are these amazing prospects you are refering to?
Bjork is a bottom 6 regular, and Vaakanainen is projected as a 3rd pairing shut down guy. The original offer isnt even close to good value. Not to mention Flames are taking on 4 years of Moore
May 20, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Moore is a bottom pairing to #7 cap dump, Bjork is a bottom 6 player, and Vaakanainen is a projected to be a decent 3rd pairing defensive dman. To get a solid 23 year old top 4 Dman on a good long term contract with lots of potential still something of actual value has to be traded.


Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Of course, but Calgary doesnt get a bunch of free amazing prospects either.
The original offer is good value wise (unless of course you are undervaluing the bruins players)

So bruins dont accept the offer with stud because its a bad offer


Moore yeah, he is a capable 3rd pairing D.

But Bjork isn't a bottom-6 player. Top6 potential and still has it, he just doesn't get the opportunities because our coach demands a lot from him (and every young player). You won't play if you don't have a complete game so they wanted kept him on the 3rd line (less responsabilities) because of that and he had chemistry with Coyle. He was really good defensively this year, just doesn't have the points number to show his offensive side of the game. Middle-six in worst-case but confident he can get even better if he gets more chances to prove himself.

Same for Vaakanainen, his potential his top4 D. More defensive-minded than offensive but can still produce and move the puck well.


Don't judge if you don't know the player.

And as I said, Bruins don't really need Hanifin so keep him; you'll need it when Giordano starts declining wink
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May 20, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Who are these amazing prospects you are refering to?
Bjork is a bottom 6 regular, and Vaakanainen is projected as a 3rd pairing shut down guy. The original offer isnt even close to good value. Not to mention Flames are taking on 4 years of Moore


Where did you get this analysis from?
May 20, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Moore yeah, he is a capable 3rd pairing D.

But Bjork isn't a bottom-6 player. Top6 potential and still has it, he just doesn't get the opportunities because our coach demands a lot from him (and every young player). You won't play if you don't have a complete game so they wanted kept him on the 3rd line (less responsabilities) because of that and he had chemistry with Coyle. He was really good defensively this year, just doesn't have the points number to show his offensive side of the game. Middle-six in worst-case but confident he can get even better if he gets more chances to prove himself.

Same for Vaakanainen, his potential his top4 D. More defensive-minded than offensive but can still produce and move the puck well.


Don't judge if you don't know the player.

And as I said, Bruins don't really need Hanifin so keep him; you'll need it when Giordano starts declining wink


I looked up the players before making any response. Bjork is in his 3rd NHL season and played bottom 6 the entire time, could he make 2nd line? Maybe, seems like a slightly better Toby Rieder to me. Speedy 2-way winger with the potential to make nifty plays but is missing some core components that seperate him from being a top 6 regular. Dobber Prospects has him bouncing between bottom 6 and fringe 2nd liner but currently bottom 6.
Vaakanainen got a short call up this year but has most played in the A, seems like a decent PK guy in the future but DP has im projected for 3rd pair with maybe some fringe #4 play
May 20, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Moore yeah, he is a capable 3rd pairing D.

But Bjork isn't a bottom-6 player. Top6 potential and still has it, he just doesn't get the opportunities because our coach demands a lot from him (and every young player). You won't play if you don't have a complete game so they wanted kept him on the 3rd line (less responsabilities) because of that and he had chemistry with Coyle. He was really good defensively this year, just doesn't have the points number to show his offensive side of the game. Middle-six in worst-case but confident he can get even better if he gets more chances to prove himself.

Same for Vaakanainen, his potential his top4 D. More defensive-minded than offensive but can still produce and move the puck well.


Don't judge if you don't know the player.

And as I said, Bruins don't really need Hanifin so keep him; you'll need it when Giordano starts declining wink


Think about it this way, you wouldnt do Bennett, Kylington, Dube, and a 2nd/3rd for McAvoy would you? Probably not.
May 20, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I looked up the players before making any response. Bjork is in his 3rd NHL season and played bottom 6 the entire time, could he make 2nd line? Maybe, seems like a slightly better Toby Rieder to me. Speedy 2-way winger with the potential to make nifty plays but is missing some core components that seperate him from being a top 6 regular. Dobber Prospects has him bouncing between bottom 6 and fringe 2nd liner but currently bottom 6.
Vaakanainen got a short call up this year but has most played in the A, seems like a decent PK guy in the future but DP has im projected for 3rd pair with maybe some fringe #4 play


Doesn't mean that DB has them at x potential that they will necessarily be that. Bjork played 20-30 GP in those two first seasons and only had offensive responsibilities. So if he didn't produce, he gets sent down and that's what happened. Unfortunately, he got injured both seasons (shoulder) and missed the entire year. If it's first full season and now, he is complete player. As I said, you won't play in Boston if you can't defend.

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and fringe 2nd liner but currently bottom 6.


As you say, fringe 2nd liner so he can be that. He is in " bottom-6 ", more top9 because he had good chemistry with Coyle and the B's wanted him to excel while having less TOI. So quality > quantity.

And for Vaakanainen, Bruins have too much depth on D. With McAvoy, Carlo, Krug/Grzelcyk/both, it doesn't matter if he's #3 or #4 but he'll likely be a top4 D, not 3rd pair.
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May 20, 2020 at 11:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Think about it this way, you wouldnt do Bennett, Kylington, Dube, and a 2nd/3rd for McAvoy would you? Probably not.


Hanifin is not and will probably never be a top10 or elite D.
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May 20, 2020 at 11:06 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Hanifin is not and will probably never be a top10 or elite D.


McAvoy is not a top 10 D in the league but he likely will always be better then Hanifin yes. However players I listed from Calgary are all higher rated prospects then the ones in the original trade. Dube has plenty of top 6 potential, Bennett still has lots of potential though will probably never live up to draft pick, and Kylington is already turning into a solid NHLer. Also there is no cap dump included here
May 20, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I looked up the players before making any response. Bjork is in his 3rd NHL season and played bottom 6 the entire time, could he make 2nd line? Maybe, seems like a slightly better Toby Rieder to me. Speedy 2-way winger with the potential to make nifty plays but is missing some core components that seperate him from being a top 6 regular. Dobber Prospects has him bouncing between bottom 6 and fringe 2nd liner but currently bottom 6.
Vaakanainen got a short call up this year but has most played in the A, seems like a decent PK guy in the future but DP has im projected for 3rd pair with maybe some fringe #4 play


Bjork broke camp his rookie year playing on the 1st line with Marchand/Bergeron until he got hurt. After that Pastrnak moved up and has been a mainstay ever since. I don't put much stock in what Dobber Prospects says as majority of the time they are wrong and don't actually watch these guys play regularly.
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May 20, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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I feel like just sign krug and call it a day?
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May 20, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I looked up the players before making any response. Bjork is in his 3rd NHL season and played bottom 6 the entire time, could he make 2nd line? Maybe, seems like a slightly better Toby Rieder to me. Speedy 2-way winger with the potential to make nifty plays but is missing some core components that seperate him from being a top 6 regular. Dobber Prospects has him bouncing between bottom 6 and fringe 2nd liner but currently bottom 6.
Vaakanainen got a short call up this year but has most played in the A, seems like a decent PK guy in the future but DP has im projected for 3rd pair with maybe some fringe #4 play


This is why all those prospect sites are just kind of garbage. I’ve been very vocal that Bjork doesn’t have the value that a lot of bruins fans seem to think, but basically everything you said about him wasn’t accurate.

He’s had a lot of injury issues which has led to sporadic NHL exposure. He has mostly played in the top six, and as recently as just before the NHL suspended, he had a lot of games with Krejci and Debrusk, and looked really good. This is a guy that’s proving me wrong by being a legit NHL player this year, so take that for what it’s worth.
May 20, 2020 at 1:15 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Moore yeah, he is a capable 3rd pairing D.

But Bjork isn't a bottom-6 player. Top6 potential and still has it, he just doesn't get the opportunities because our coach demands a lot from him (and every young player). You won't play if you don't have a complete game so they wanted kept him on the 3rd line (less responsabilities) because of that and he had chemistry with Coyle. He was really good defensively this year, just doesn't have the points number to show his offensive side of the game. Middle-six in worst-case but confident he can get even better if he gets more chances to prove himself.

Same for Vaakanainen, his potential his top4 D. More defensive-minded than offensive but can still produce and move the puck well.


Don't judge if you don't know the player.

And as I said, Bruins don't really need Hanifin so keep him; you'll need it when Giordano starts declining wink


Spot On!

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Who are these amazing prospects you are refering to?
Bjork is a bottom 6 regular, and Vaakanainen is projected as a 3rd pairing shut down guy. The original offer isnt even close to good value. Not to mention Flames are taking on 4 years of Moore


Unfortunately, the problem is that you dont know bruins prospects clearly. So no more discussion.
Bruins reject, and its a bad trade.


(and yes: Urho is top 4 projected NOT top 6 (wow that was bad) , Studnicka is top 6 projected. Bjork is top 6 projected and is already a solid player (LATE Development like many College players), Moore is an extremely solid 3rd pairing guy, worth the money. so it is NOT "Taking on 4 years of his deal". it IS: Getting a solid player to round out the bottom dpair... Those are just facts)
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May 20, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Think about it this way, you wouldnt do Bennett, Kylington, Dube, and a 2nd/3rd for McAvoy would you? Probably not.


McAvoy > Hanafin
Urho > Kylington
Bjork = Bennett
Dube > Moore
2nd/3rd < 2nd

So you just propsed a FAR worse trade
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May 20, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
McAvoy > Hanafin
Urho > Kylington
Bjork = Bennett
Dube > Moore
2nd/3rd < 2nd

So you just propsed a FAR worse trade


Tbh I dont think you can state that Urho is better than Kylington as a fact. Maybe opinion. Yes the Bruins have an extremely deep LHD core but to say Urho over Kylington is wrong because there are so many unknowns about Urho. The belief is that eventually he's going to be a solid 2nd pair dman but until Urho can solidify himself as a regular NHLer you cant claim that. And Urho's had his chances and I thought he's held his own. Now if you were talking about potential disregard everything I just said, except I'd put Kylington and Urho as equals in terms of potential.
May 20, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
McAvoy > Hanafin
Urho > Kylington
Bjork = Bennett
Dube > Moore
2nd/3rd < 2nd

So you just propsed a FAR worse trade


I don't think he meant to counter with that trade, just wanted to make me feel how he felt about that Hanifin trade (which didn't work out since they aren't in same class).

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Bjork = Bennett


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Bennett still has lots of potential though will probably never live up to draft pick


Even " Bjork = Bennett ", Bjork is better. 5th season for Bennett, I gave up on him but that's me. Sure he didn't live up to his potential and looks like his style is more of a checking game than the guy CGY wanted/drafted so I wouldn't compare them due to their different styles. Meanwhile, Bjork was better offensively than his stats show and really good defensively so I would give Bjork an edge as Bennett will likely never pass him unless AB10 regress.
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Tbh I dont think you can state that Urho is better than Kylington as a fact. Maybe opinion. Yes the Bruins have an extremely deep LHD core but to say Urho over Kylington is wrong because there are so many unknowns about Urho. The belief is that eventually he's going to be a solid 2nd pair dman but until Urho can solidify himself as a regular NHLer you cant claim that. And Urho's had his chances and I thought he's held his own. Now if you were talking about potential disregard everything I just said, except I'd put Kylington and Urho as equals in terms of potential.


Agreed but not on everything. At this moment, Kylington is better because he's a regular in the NHL (2 years difference tho) and Vaakanainen still needs another season in the NHL. But long-term, think Vaakanainen could pass him. I know Kylington has some potential but hard to see when he'll play more than 14 mins with Giordano and Hanifin on the left side.
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May 20, 2020 at 2:02 p.m.
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I don't think he meant to counter with that trade, just wanted to make me feel how he felt about that Hanifin trade (which didn't work out since they aren't in same class).

Even " Bjork = Bennett ", Bjork is better. 5th season for Bennett, I gave up on him but that's me. Sure he didn't live up to his potential and looks like his style is more of a checking game than the guy CGY wanted/drafted so I wouldn't compare them due to their different styles. Meanwhile, Bjork was better offensively than his stats show and really good defensively so I would give Bjork an edge as Bennett will likely never pass him unless AB10 regress.


Ya I'm not sure if its a usage thing for Bennett or what. His TOI has dropped year over year since his rookie season and it doesn't look like he takes many face-offs anymore even though most place have him as a center. His per 60's over the last 3 years put him as a mid-pack 3rd line producer, but a solid defender.
May 20, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
McAvoy > Hanafin
Urho > Kylington
Bjork = Bennett
Dube > Moore
2nd/3rd < 2nd

So you just propsed a FAR worse trade


"McAvoy > Hanifin" well yeah
"Vaakanainen > Kylington " this is just wrong, 1 is already an NHLer and Kylington also has top 4 potential.
"Bjork = Bennett" sure
"Dube > Moore" these 2 arent really comparable, 1 is a cap dump while the other has clear top 6 potential, this is where the difference in Hanifin and McAvoy is mostly made u0.
"2nd/3rd < 2nd" what? The original offer had a 3rd not a 2nd so Calgary's 2nd/3rd is way better then Bostons 3rd.
 
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