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Cirelli up to 8m x 3 year offersheet 2020-21

Created by: Richard88
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: May 24, 2020
Published: May 24, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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This AGM illustrates clearly that Colorado can easily fit Cirelli into the roster at $8m AAV with a flat cap until 2023. A 3 year OS is the ideal term as it makes Cirelli a RFA again in 2023 when Mackinnon & Byram need new contracts.

$8m x 3 years is a huge deal for Cirelli that he won't be able to say no to because he would likely earn almost double ($8m x 3 years = $24m) on his bridge deal compared to what Tampa can realistically afford to pay him on a bridge deal due to their cap situation (~$4.5m x 3 years = $13.5m). This OS also means that Cirelli's Qualifying Offer in 2023 (with one year to UFA) would be $8m, thereby virtually guaranteeing himself another big payday after this bridge contract.

Needless to say Tampa would very likely find it impossible to match this OS, given that they are already up against the cap and also have to sign Sergachev and Cernak.

For reference:
- 2020/21 AGM roster: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1743477
- 2021/22 AGM roster: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1743482

Below is a summary of roster moves made by year until 2023.


******* 2020 OFFSEASON *******


- Trade Zadorov, Kamenev, and Jost at the draft (Alternatively trade Bellemare instead of Jost and resign Jost at $1.8m).
- OS Cirelli the day after the entry draft.
- UFA: Nieto, Wilson, Namestnikov leave.
- Resign Burakovsky, Nichuskin, Graves, and O'Connor
- Promote Byram, Kaut


******* 2021 OFFSEASON *******


- Trade Kadri before ED for futures (eg. 1st + 2nd/3rd + prospect), and replace him with Newhook.
- UFA: Calvert and Cole leave
- Resign Landeskog, Makar, Timmins, Grubauer, and Bellemare (Note: Bellemare's $750k contract is a 35+ league minimum 1 year contract with bonuses. Alternatively sign equivalent 4C at ~$1-1.5m).
- Promote Newhook, Timmins, and Bowers.
- Compher selected by Seattle in ED.

Expansion Draft Protection (7+3+1)
- Mackinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Cirelli, Burakovsky, Nichuskin, Jost
- Makar, Girard, Graves
- Grubauer
Exposed: Compher, Donskoi, Johnson (waives NMC as he won't get selected anyways), Francouz. =====> Compher selected.


****** 2022 OFFSEASON *******


- Resign Kaut, Bowers, and Francouz.
- Note: If capspace is needed then Donskoi ($3.9m/1 year left) can be traded, but the cap should have risen enough by then due to Seattle expansion and new TV deal to cover those re-signings. Annunen may be able to replace Francouz as backup too.


****** 2023 OFFSEASON *******


Let the games begin... (Resign Mackinnon, Cirelli, Byram, Graves, etc...)

In 2022 Cirelli would still have 1 year remaining as an RFA which means that he can either be traded or resigned with term. His QO would be $8m.

Johnson's $6m comes off the books and will largely pay for Mackinnon's raise. Hopefully the cap will rise enough to pay Byram as well. Whatever the case we simply decide who to keep and make necessary moves to keep the team as a contender.

Note that in this AGM we have all four of our 1st round picks from 2020 to 2023 so we should be able to get a couple of ELC's out of those drafts.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,750,000
3$2,750,000
1$925,000
3$2,000,000
3$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony$8,000,000
2021 1st round pick
2021 2nd round pick
2021 3rd round pick
Trades
1.
COL
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (VGK)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
2.
COL
  1. 2021 4th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav [RFA Rights]
3.
COL
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,418,095$0$5,425,000$2,081,905

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 24, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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Jost isn't worth that much
May 24, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
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Kadri won't be too happy becoming a 3C again, his stats may suffer.
May 24, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.
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You are over the cap by 4.2m if all bonus' attained. These overages slide to the next year since you dont have cap space to cover them this year.
May 24, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
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I don't think a player can waive NMC from his contract just like that. Nor why would he as it is the thing protecting him from being assigned to AHL.
May 24, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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You’d probably have to trade Cole but they could probably make that work
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You are over the cap by 4.2m if all bonus' attained. These overages slide to the next year since you dont have cap space to cover them this year.
May 24, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorMcSchulenberg
You’d probably have to trade Cole but they could probably make that work


That would do it.
May 24, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Silverbug
You are over the cap by 4.2m if all bonus' attained. These overages slide to the next year since you dont have cap space to cover them this year.


I've had a look at that.

As per the link below teams can exceed the cap due to bonus payments by 7.5%:

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq

Quote:
What is a Performance Bonus?
A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
- The player is on an entry-level contract.
- The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
- The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).


It's also highly unlikely that most of those bonuses are reached, as the bulk of them are bonuses due to Byram ($2.5m) and Makar ($2.5m) regarding points and things like winning the cup and Conn Smythe. It's very unlikely that both of them would hit the points bonuses as only one will be running PP1, and needless to say only one could win the Conn Smythe (and even that is highly unlikely).

Needless to say I'm not particularly concerned by those bonuses. But even in the unlikely (and pleasant) event that we actually win the cup and they hit ALL of their bonuses, then I suppose we'd simply need to trade Donskoi in 2021 to open up the necessary capspace. Not a big issue, at all.
May 24, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Jost isn't worth that much


What is he worth according to you?
May 24, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
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I don't think a player can waive NMC from his contract just like that. Nor why would he as it is the thing protecting him from being assigned to AHL.


Are you referring to Johnson? It would be a short-term NMC waive just for the ED. Seattle likely wouldn't pick a 33 year old declining Dman at $6m anyways, but even if they wanted to we could simply send them a 3rd or something to steer them towards someone else.

If Johnson insists on not waiving then we can do one of 3 things:
1) buy him out
2) trade him (perhaps attach a pick/prospect to him - he only has an 11 team no-trade list)
3) Protect him and expose Graves. Worse things have happened, and if Graves gets selected then we can acquire a 3rd pairing Dman in trade/free agency/prospect pool to replace him (or pay Seattle to not pick Graves).
May 24, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Kadri won't be too happy becoming a 3C again, his stats may suffer.


The difference in Colorado compared to in Toronto is that he'd still be getting lot's of extra minutes on PP1.

In Toronto there was also two 1C's ahead of him, but here there would instead be two 2C's so it wouldn't really matter which line was "the 2nd line" as both would probably get used equal amounts, with Kadri getting PP1 time and Cirelli PK1 time.
May 24, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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Are you referring to Johnson? It would be a short-term NMC waive just for the ED. Seattle likely wouldn't pick a 33 year old declining Dman at $6m anyways, but even if they wanted to we could simply send them a 3rd or something to steer them towards someone else.

If Johnson insists on not waiving then we can do one of 3 things:
1) buy him out
2) trade him (perhaps attach a pick/prospect to him - he only has an 11 team no-trade list)
3) Protect him and expose Graves. Worse things have happened, and if Graves gets selected then we can acquire a 3rd pairing Dman in trade/free agency/prospect pool to replace him (or pay Seattle to not pick Graves).


Yeah I am. And I've never heard of player waiving their NMCs short-term. I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think in the expansion draft rule all players with NMC in their contracts are must protects with not exceptions. And the only way I've heard of getting rid of the NMC is by getting clause voided during a transaction.

Regardless, I do think that SEA would be picking Compher, so that's not the main issue there.

Trading him isn't going to be easy as teams receiving him would also have to protect him.
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May 24, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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Yeah I am. And I've never heard of player waiving their NMCs short-term. I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think in the expansion draft rule all players with NMC in their contracts are must protects with not exceptions. And the only way I've heard of getting rid of the NMC is by getting clause voided during a transaction.

Regardless, I do think that SEA would be picking Compher, so that's not the main issue there.

Trading him isn't going to be easy as teams receiving him would also have to protect him.


I think you might be right. Waiving NMC could carry on the rest of the contract.

That said, I think if Sakic and Johnson came to a gentleman's agreement there probably wouldn't be any risk of Johnson getting moved before his contract expires.

Sakic is generally a very loyal guy, and once even traded Iginla to LA Kings for nothing in return just so he could have a final shot at the cup. Johnson is also a team guy, and if making a gentleman's agreement about waiving means that Colorado can have a better chance at the cup I don't see why Johnson wouldn't waive if Sakic promises to ensure that Seattle doesn't pick him.
May 24, 2020 at 5:06 p.m.
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What is he worth according to you?


I'd give a pair of 3rds tops. If that
May 24, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
I've had a look at that.

As per the link below teams can exceed the cap due to bonus payments by 7.5%:

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq

Quote:
What is a Performance Bonus?
A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
- The player is on an entry-level contract.
- The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
- The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).


It's also highly unlikely that most of those bonuses are reached, as the bulk of them are bonuses due to Byram ($2.5m) and Makar ($2.5m) regarding points and things like winning the cup and Conn Smythe. It's very unlikely that both of them would hit the points bonuses as only one will be running PP1, and needless to say only one could win the Conn Smythe (and even that is highly unlikely).

Needless to say I'm not particularly concerned by those bonuses. But even in the unlikely (and pleasant) event that we actually win the cup and they hit ALL of their bonuses, then I suppose we'd simply need to trade Donskoi in 2021 to open up the necessary capspace. Not a big issue, at all.


I think you can do it too just because my theory is the cap is going up.

Here are my thouhgts on the current cap situation.

Cap theory... NHL and NHLPA agree to raise cap by set amount over next 4 years (2.5m year 1 and 1.5m years 2-4). This is done to keep player salaries increasing and enable longer term deals to be signed with more certainty. Escrow will then claw back player salaries based on hockey related revenues. The actual cap is mostly irrelevant at this point so may as well provide certainty. A cap freeze actually solves nothing and I believe NHLPA should insist on scheduled cap increases. Players hate escrow under normal times but right now I think everyone understands in order to keep the league running its a requirement. It would be unfair to current UFAs and RFAs not to do this.
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May 24, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'd give a pair of 3rds tops. If that


Good luck with that. He's definitely worth at least a 2nd.
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It's also highly unlikely that most of those bonuses are reached, as the bulk of them are bonuses due to Byram ($2.5m) and Makar ($2.5m) regarding points and things like winning the cup and Conn Smythe. It's very unlikely that both of them would hit the points bonuses as only one will be running PP1, and needless to say only one could win the Conn Smythe (and even that is highly unlikely).

Needless to say I'm not particularly concerned by those bonuses. But even in the unlikely (and pleasant) event that we actually win the cup and they hit ALL of their bonuses, then I suppose we'd simply need to trade Donskoi in 2021 to open up the necessary capspace. Not a big issue, at all.


I think you can do it too just because my theory is the cap is going up.

Here are my thouhgts on the current cap situation.

Cap theory... NHL and NHLPA agree to raise cap by set amount over next 4 years (2.5m year 1 and 1.5m years 2-4). This is done to keep player salaries increasing and enable longer term deals to be signed with more certainty. Escrow will then claw back player salaries based on hockey related revenues. The actual cap is mostly irrelevant at this point so may as well provide certainty. A cap freeze actually solves nothing and I believe NHLPA should insist on scheduled cap increases. Players hate escrow under normal times but right now I think everyone understands in order to keep the league running its a requirement. It would be unfair to current UFAs and RFAs not to do this.[/quote]

Very good points, interesting idea.
May 24, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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Good luck with that. He's definitely worth at least a 2nd.


I don't think he's a great fit in Ottawa. They might try to get him, but if they aren't getting really good value, I wouldn't be super interested.
 
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