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Gaudreau

Created by: phillyjabroni
Initial Creation Date: May 24, 2020
Published: May 24 at 9:05 pm
Team: 2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas1$925,000
Hägg, Robert1$2,000,000
Lindblom, Oskar1$925,000
Patrick, Nolan1$925,000
Myers, Philippe2$3,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Elliott, Brian1$2,000,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
CGY
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
  2. Frost, Morgan
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Sundqvist, Oskar
STL
  1. Rubtsov, German
PHI
  1. De Haan, Calvin
  2. Barratt, Evan
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
PHI
  1. Ferraro, Mario
SJS
  1. De Haan, Calvin
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
  • Andrew MacDonald: $1,916,667
  • David Schlemko: $600,000
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
MTL
2021
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
2022
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,341,190$0$927,500$3,158,810
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 2
PHI
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 4
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
PHI
Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
STL
Sundqvist, Oskar
$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
PHI
Laughton, Scott
$2,300,000
C
UFA - 1
PHI
Farabee, Joel
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
PHI
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA
PHI
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$925,000
RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
$6,750,000
LD
UFA - 5
PHI
Niskanen, Matt
$5,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PHI
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 1
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
$3,250,000
RD
RFA - 1
PHI
Myers, Philippe
$3,250,000
RD
RFA
PHI
Elliott, Brian
$2,000,000
G
UFA
PHI
Hägg, Robert
$2,000,000
LD
RFA
SJS
Ferraro, Mario
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PHI
Sandin, Linus
$792,500
RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000
LW
RFA
PHI
Morin, Samuel
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1

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May 24 at 9:07
#1
bgainesdm
Joined: May 2019
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Why would the Blues trade Sundqvist?
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May 24 at 9:10
#2
Dubas is a genius
Joined: Apr 2020
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Quoting: bgainesdm
Why would the Blues trade Sundqvist?



I guess he likely gets taken by Seattle anyway in St. Louis but still that's not a ton of value coming back
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May 24 at 9:10
#3
bgainesdm
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Quoting: firezfurx
I guess he likely gets taken by Seattle anyway in St. Louis but still that's not a ton of value coming back


Why would the Blues expose him? He's arguably their best defensive forward on the entire team.
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May 24 at 9:12
#4
Joined: May 2018
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Why wouldn't Chicago cut out the middle man and trade for Ferrari and keep Barratt???
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May 24 at 9:14
#5
Dubas is a genius
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Quoting: bgainesdm
Why would the Blues expose him? He's arguably their best defensive forward on the entire team.


Well think about who they'll have to protect:

1. ROR
2. Schenn
3. Schwartz
4. Thomas
5. Kyrou

That leaves 2 spots for Sunqvist, Blais, Barbashev, and Perron
May 24 at 9:15
#6
bgainesdm
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 528
Likes: 90
Quoting: firezfurx
Well think about who they'll have to protect:

1. ROR
2. Schenn
3. Schwartz
4. Thomas
5. Kyrou

That leaves 2 spots for Sunqvist, Blais, Barbashev, and Perron


Sundqvist and Blais will most likely be protected.
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May 24 at 9:17
#7
Dubas is a genius
Joined: Apr 2020
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Likes: 580
Quoting: bgainesdm
Sundqvist and Blais will most likely be protected.


So All-Star Perron and a younger guy in Barbashev get exposed? I still think they'll keep Sundqvist but it's not out of the question one of those guys gets moved.
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May 24 at 9:19
#8
bgainesdm
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 528
Likes: 90
Quoting: firezfurx
So All-Star Perron and a younger guy in Barbashev get exposed? I still think they'll keep Sundqvist but it's not out of the question one of those guys gets moved.


I think Perron gets exposed due to his age. And yeah, Barbashev most likely will still be exposed
May 24 at 9:44
#9
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,025
Likes: 229
Quoting: firezfurx
Well think about who they'll have to protect:

1. ROR
2. Schenn
3. Schwartz
4. Thomas
5. Kyrou

That leaves 2 spots for Sunqvist, Blais, Barbashev, and Perron

Tarasenko. Also Schwartz will be a UFA so he won’t be protected. It’ll come down to Sunny or Perron.
May 24 at 9:45
#10
Romanov Our Savior
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 2,947
Likes: 1,508
Ferraro's one of the only bright spots in SJ, there's no way they trade him for an older and injury prone De Haan
May 24 at 9:59
#11
CGY
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 3,595
Likes: 933
Don’t need JVR in Calgary
May 24 at 10:52
#12
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 246
I think PHI would have to retain at least $1M on that JVR contract to get the conversation started. The better play for CGY is to move Gaudreau for much younger player(s)/pick(s). Even with that lethal PHI powerplay, JVR hasn't been putting up 50 points per season. And he's missed decent chunks of time in 3 (out of 11) seasons with injury. And he just turned that dangerous decline age of 31.

Frost is a great prospect with value. And a 1st is decent value, but that 1st rounder is projected at #25 currently.

I think this is in the ballpark from a technical value standpoint, but not interesting enough for CGY.
May 24 at 11:01
#13
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 915
Likes: 448
I wouldn't trade De Haan for ghost straight up let alone gibe up a pick and prospect
May 24 at 11:21
#14
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2017
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Ferraro's one of the only bright spots in SJ, there's no way they trade him for an older and injury prone De Haan


Had some trades with Ghost for Mete and then Mete for Ferraro, but some SJS fans said they weren't really into Gostisbehere since he's mainly a puck moving defensemen. Still a longshot they will move Ferraro. He's talented and everything, but I doubt he'll ever be more than a third pair defensemen.

Quoting: firezfurx
So All-Star Perron and a younger guy in Barbashev get exposed? I still think they'll keep Sundqvist but it's not out of the question one of those guys gets moved.


Trade was more to relieve St. Louis for some cap space and give them a bottom-six prospect who is defensively minded like Sundqvist. Seems reasonable to be a situation where he has more value to them than what the trade market would reflect.

Quoting: Riley816
Why wouldn't Chicago cut out the middle man and trade for Ferrari and keep Barratt???


Ferraro won't be a goal scorer and Gostisbehere has some past seasons where he was successful in that capacity. Chicago was the 28th worst last season for 5v5 goals from defensemen. The situation is more of moving Gostisbehere to a new team to give him a chance to really play his game. He's got the talent, just isn't the right fit in Philadelphia.

Quoting: Vanderm
I think PHI would have to retain at least $1M on that JVR contract to get the conversation started. The better play for CGY is to move Gaudreau for much younger player(s)/pick(s). Even with that lethal PHI powerplay, JVR hasn't been putting up 50 points per season. And he's missed decent chunks of time in 3 (out of 11) seasons with injury. And he just turned that dangerous decline age of 31.

Frost is a great prospect with value. And a 1st is decent value, but that 1st rounder is projected at #25 currently.

I think this is in the ballpark from a technical value standpoint, but not interesting enough for CGY.


It's fairly similar to along the lines of returns of the Brayden Schenn trade, except JVR can still play in top-six/nine unlike Jori Lehtera. It basically comes down to whether or not Calgary has a large enough incentive to move Gaudreau for a prospect with top-six upside, a 1st round pick, and JVR.
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May 25 at 12:25
#15
MisstheWhalers
Joined: Jan 2019
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Quoting: bgainesdm
I think Perron gets exposed due to his age. And yeah, Barbashev most likely will still be exposed


Poor Perron just wants to be a St. Louis Blue, how many times are they going to move on from him? lol
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May 25 at 1:18
#16
Joined: Nov 2019
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There is no way flames do this trade this a laughable
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May 25 at 1:31
#17
Isles777
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Poor Perron just wants to be a St. Louis Blue, how many times are they going to move on from him? lol


😂😂😂
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May 25 at 12:20
#18
Thread Starter
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Quoting: flamesfan
There is no way flames do this trade this a laughable


What would you expect the return to be?
 
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