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Hamilton Trade-and-Extension With the Jets for the Canes Side

Created by: Hockyluv21
Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2020
Published: May 26, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$725,000
1$725,000
Trades
1.
CAR
WPG
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Dzingel, Ryan ($1,687,500 retained)
  3. Fleury, Haydn [RFA Rights]
  4. Hamilton, Dougie
  5. 2021 7th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Hamilton extends with the Jets for 8 years, $10.2M AAV.
2.
PHI
  1. Foegele, Warren [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
Buyouts
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$81,999,822$1,367,073$3,207,500-$499,822
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C, RW
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 26, 2020 at 2:22 a.m.
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What in tarnation
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Canes decline both trades
May 26, 2020 at 4:04 a.m.
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Canes decline both trades


They accept the WPG trade that’s highway robbery
PHI are robbing CAR tho
May 26, 2020 at 5:17 a.m.
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They accept the WPG trade that’s highway robbery
PHI are robbing CAR tho


Don't think so. Hamilton's TOP5 RHD in the world at the moment. Moving him is not a wise decision.
May 26, 2020 at 5:54 a.m.
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Don't think so. Hamilton's TOP5 RHD in the world at the moment. Moving him is not a wise decision.


Ok but getting Ehlers Pionk Heinola 1st is a massive overpayment
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May 26, 2020 at 6:00 a.m.
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Ok but getting Ehlers Pionk Heinola 1st is a massive overpayment


A 2nd line winger, 3rd pairing D man, 1st and a meh prospect for a top 5 D man is an overpay? Hamilton to Winnipeg starts with Either Connor or Laine I feel. You can drop the first, Pionk, Heinola too. Seomthing like Hamilton (extended) for Connor and a 3rd.
May 26, 2020 at 8:25 a.m.
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Lets see how Hamilton heals from his femur break before you start trading him. Has to still show how good he is after a major injury
May 26, 2020 at 8:39 a.m.
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A 2nd line winger, 3rd pairing D man, 1st and a meh prospect for a top 5 D man is an overpay? Hamilton to Winnipeg starts with Either Connor or Laine I feel. You can drop the first, Pionk, Heinola too. Seomthing like Hamilton (extended) for Connor and a 3rd.


So you just down play every player in the jets trade then come back with Connor and a 3rd?! Lmao do some re search or atleast watch the jets games ehlers is better then Connor and heinola top prospect pionk top 4 dman.. BUT U WANT CONNOR AND A 3rd! The lesser fwd and a weaker pick... smh and I didn’t even mention the 1st that was in that deal brutal
May 26, 2020 at 8:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
So you just down play every player in the jets trade then come back with Connor and a 3rd?! Lmao do some re search or atleast watch the jets games ehlers is better then Connor and heinola top prospect pionk top 4 dman.. BUT U WANT CONNOR AND A 3rd! The lesser fwd and a weaker pick... smh and I didn’t even mention the 1st that was in that deal brutal


Disagree, Connor is better both in terms of finishing, and playmaking, which makes him more desirable to a team that needs a scoring touch. Ehlers is FAR better defensively, that's not close. But Carolina boast one of the best D cores in hockey, and unless you wanna part with Laine, the piece to build around would need to be Kyle Connor. Pionk is also a 3rd pairing D man, his WAR is horrible, and his GAR is straight up worse bad. Heinola I'll admit I don't know too much about, but he's not the quality of prospect you'd want back for a future Norris winner.
May 26, 2020 at 8:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
A 2nd line winger, 3rd pairing D man, 1st and a meh prospect for a top 5 D man is an overpay? Hamilton to Winnipeg starts with Either Connor or Laine I feel. You can drop the first, Pionk, Heinola too. Seomthing like Hamilton (extended) for Connor and a 3rd.


How is Pionk a 3rd pairing dman? and how is Heinola a "meh" prospect? You dont know what you're talking about lol
May 26, 2020 at 8:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Disagree, Connor is better both in terms of finishing, and playmaking, which makes him more desirable to a team that needs a scoring touch. Ehlers is FAR better defensively, that's not close. But Carolina boast one of the best D cores in hockey, and unless you wanna part with Laine, the piece to build around would need to be Kyle Connor. Pionk is also a 3rd pairing D man, his WAR is horrible, and his GAR is straight up worse bad. Heinola I'll admit I don't know too much about, but he's not the quality of prospect you'd want back for a future Norris winner.


How is that not a quality prospect coming back maybe you’d want a fwd but to say he’s not a quality enough prospect coming back is Comical but i mean hey sure if you want the not as good fwd and a 3rd deal lmao
May 26, 2020 at 9:21 a.m.
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A 2nd line winger, 3rd pairing D man, 1st and a meh prospect for a top 5 D man is an overpay? Hamilton to Winnipeg starts with Either Connor or Laine I feel. You can drop the first, Pionk, Heinola too. Seomthing like Hamilton (extended) for Connor and a 3rd.


Ehlers>>>Connor>Laine
May 26, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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Hamilton is so overrated, this Canes fan who loves him so much trades him on here constantly, the Canes can keep him.
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May 26, 2020 at 9:50 a.m.
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How is that not a quality prospect coming back maybe you’d want a fwd but to say he’s not a quality enough prospect coming back is Comical but i mean hey sure if you want the not as good fwd and a 3rd deal lmao


Erm, I think you misread. The kind of prospect I want for Hamilton would be Cole Caufield, Trevor Zegras calibre. Some of the best prospects in hockey. Heinola, I don't know much about, but just looking at stats he's not that calibre.
May 26, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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Hamilton is so overrated, this Canes fan who loves him so much trades him on here constantly, the Canes can keep him.


It's because I'm interested in trade scenarios, man. Leave me alone. I prefer that Hamilton extends here, as I've said a million times before. I just know how this FO is sometimes when it comes to contract negotiations, especially with UFAs. You can't ever rule out a trade as a possibility.
May 26, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.
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Ehlers>>>Connor>Laine


Overall I agree, but in terms of Carolina needs, Laine > Connor >>> Ehlers. Ehlers isn't as clinical offensively as the other two.
May 26, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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Erm, I think you misread. The kind of prospect I want for Hamilton would be Cole Caufield, Trevor Zegras calibre. Some of the best prospects in hockey. Heinola, I don't know much about, but just looking at stats he's not that calibre.


I’d suggest watching heinola play rather then just google his stats and also maybe not the best stats for this year in Finland but world j’s did really well and his short stint with the jets did really well idk what more you’d want for a rookie dman who also plays a very good 2 way game and a very very smart player on the ice.
May 26, 2020 at 9:59 a.m.
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Ehlers>>>Connor>Laine


Ehlers laine Connor I think you meant to put wink also laine has the most upside
May 26, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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I’d suggest watching heinola play rather then just google his stats and also maybe not the best stats for this year in Finland but world j’s did really well and his short stint with the jets did really well idk what more you’d want for a rookie dman who also plays a very good 2 way game and a very very smart player on the ice.


Another point, a D man. Carolina go 10 deep right now with NHL calibre D men. Not worth removing Hamilton to add another meh defender in the long term. All the reports I can find on him suggest he'll be max a 2nd pairing guy. We have better D prospects than that in our system.
May 26, 2020 at 10:07 a.m.
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Another point, a D man. Carolina go 10 deep right now with NHL calibre D men. Not worth removing Hamilton to add another meh defender in the long term. All the reports I can find on him suggest he'll be max a 2nd pairing guy. We have better D prospects than that in our system.


Lmao I never said you should take that how can you call him a meh defender you probably never seen him play..? Would also love to hear your “better d prospects” man ur delusional
May 26, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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Another point, a D man. Carolina go 10 deep right now with NHL calibre D men. Not worth removing Hamilton to add another meh defender in the long term. All the reports I can find on him suggest he'll be max a 2nd pairing guy. We have better D prospects than that in our system.


His initial stint in the NHL at 18 years old doesn't make me think that he'll just be a 2nd pairing guy. Sure, he had issues after being sent back to Finland, however, I see him as potentially an NHL player next year in Winnipeg (even though I personally think that he needs more seasoning). Again, I included a 2022 1st in the deal mainly because I don't view Heinola as a Caufield/Zegras-caliber prospect, and to me, Hamilton is easily worth that kind of king's ransom in a trade-and-extension.
May 26, 2020 at 10:53 a.m.
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Overall I agree, but in terms of Carolina needs, Laine > Connor >>> Ehlers. Ehlers isn't as clinical offensively as the other two.


Check the new canescord, Ehlers isn't a slouch offensively either...
May 26, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
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Check the new canescord, Ehlers isn't a slouch offensively either...


I'm not saying he is, but Connor is more clinical.
May 26, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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His initial stint in the NHL at 18 years old doesn't make me think that he'll just be a 2nd pairing guy. Sure, he had issues after being sent back to Finland, however, I see him as potentially an NHL player next year in Winnipeg (even though I personally think that he needs more seasoning). Again, I included a 2022 1st in the deal mainly because I don't view Heinola as a Caufield/Zegras-caliber prospect, and to me, Hamilton is easily worth that kind of king's ransom in a trade-and-extension.


I got the idea with it, I think you just overvalued Ehlers a little specifically for our need. I think a package of something like Connor, Roslovic, a 1st and something else would be a better fit in the long run. This isn't because Ehlers isn't the better player, it's that he's like a Nino Niederreiter on steroids. He's hot and cold offensively, but always elite defensively. Connor is much more of a goal scorer which is why I'd suggest we target him over Ehlers. Just my thoughts though
May 26, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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Lmao I never said you should take that how can you call him a meh defender you probably never seen him play..? Would also love to hear your “better d prospects” man ur delusional


Google Jake Bean
May 26, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.
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Google Jake Bean


Oh you mean the guy that is 3 years older and would probably put up similar number is the A..? Do some re search smh
 
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