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First round choke and lafreniere

Created by: leafs101
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2020
Published: May 26, 2020
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How hilarious would that be
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3$925,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
CAR
  1. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Pulock, Ryan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
If Marner scores 100 points, the 3rd becomes a 1st
3.
TOR
  1. 2020 4th round pick (DAL)
4.
TOR
  1. Komarov, Leo
Additional Details:
Meant to take on Leo as a cap dump as well
NYI
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,371,783$0$0$128,217

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Lafreniere, Alexis
$925,000$925,000
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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May 26, 2020 at 7:04 p.m.
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That Islanders trade is so much garbage.
May 26, 2020 at 7:05 p.m.
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That Islanders trade is so much garbage.


top pair defenceman and young kapanen-equivalent (at least) forward.
May 26, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
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Marner would probably get 60 points in the Islanders offensive system.
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May 26, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
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isles decline.
May 26, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
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Marner would probably get 60 points in the Islanders offensive system.


probably not. He's good for at least a point per game on any team
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May 26, 2020 at 7:08 p.m.
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top pair defenceman and young kapanen-equivalent (at least) forward.


Ryan Poluck is not a top-pairing defender, at least not yet, and has never projected to be a top pairing guy. That Marner trade is quite awful and Toronto would never do it.
May 26, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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top pair defenceman and young kapanen-equivalent (at least) forward.


Check out Pulock on Natural Statrick. This year he was a negative player in a lot of ways. The Islanders are one of the luckiest teams in the league, PDO has them above 1 for over a year. Its really hard to know what most of their players are or are not. Almost the entire teams is negative possession players and most have negative expected goals including Pulock. Marner is better than everything in that trade and its not at all close.
May 26, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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probably not. He's good for at least a point per game on any team


Barzal since Barry Trotz has taken over: 150 GP 37 goals, 85 assist, 122 points 0.81 ppg. Remember he had 85 points in his rookie year.
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May 26, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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isles decline.


Lol
May 26, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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Might just be me, but if they got Laf, I wouldn't be trading one of the big 4, at least not yet. Adding him allows the Leafs to improve their already incredible offense without investing more money into it. I'd just make a trade/signing for a serviceable Dman and run that ****.
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May 26, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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Play-in* and they won't get him
May 26, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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Lol


Marner would put up 60-65 pts in the isles system. Removing pulock and beauvillier, adding Marner doesn't make the isles a better team now.
May 26, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.
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Lol


They're not trading a top pair RHD when they have no surplus in that position.
May 26, 2020 at 7:15 p.m.
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Play-in* and they won't get him


I don't think they would but there's a chance
May 26, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
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Ryan Poluck is not a top-pairing defender, at least not yet, and has never projected to be a top pairing guy. That Marner trade is quite awful and Toronto would never do it.


what are you talking about? He is absolutely a top pairing defenseman by WAR, GAR, SPAR. Literally every advanced metric has him at a borderline elite defenseman.
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May 26, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
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isles decline.


I could easily see that happening, but they at least give it a good think over. There isn't much of a better offensive jolt than adding Mitch Marner, and the way the team plays defence is just so elite that they could still be a top defensive team without him.

The cap in and out is about the same once you extend pulock, and saves you money the year after when you have to bring back Beauvillier.

I see both sides, and respect the opinion that they say no.
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May 26, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.
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I could easily see that happening, but they at least give it a good think over. There isn't much of a better offensive jolt than adding Mitch Marner, and the way the team plays defence is just so elite that they could still be a top defensive team without him.

I see both sides, and respect the opinion that they say no.


Right now it makes no sense for the isles. I would consider it next summer, but until dobson develops into a #1 pulock isn't getting traded.
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May 26, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.
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Marner would put up 60-65 pts in the isles system. Removing pulock and beauvillier, adding Marner doesn't make the isles a better team now.


Of course you would say that. It especially funny considering Trotz's system was the same in Washington and yet they were far better across the board. According to natural stattrick, the Islanders are just extremely lucky. Only 5 of their players have a positive expected goals percentage. In case you don't understand what that means, it means that the Islanders according to the chances they create vs what they give up should usually be in the negative. No one in the world survives for long with numbers like that. They lack talent and have been lucky. As you yourself likes to say, numbers don't lie.
May 26, 2020 at 7:20 p.m.
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I could easily see that happening, but they at least give it a good think over. There isn't much of a better offensive jolt than adding Mitch Marner, and the way the team plays defence is just so elite that they could still be a top defensive team without him.

The cap in and out is about the same once you extend pulock, and saves you money the year after when you have to bring back Beauvillier.

I see both sides, and respect the opinion that they say no.


Not true at all. Team fell apart defensively when Pelech hurt himself.
May 26, 2020 at 7:20 p.m.
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They're not trading a top pair RHD when they have no surplus in that position.


They don't have a top pair RHD. Pulock plays that position but that doesn't mean he's good at it. According to his advanced metrics, he's below average. Much like their whole team. Most of the team has a PDO above 1, that is the best metric to determine a players luck, the Islanders are not as good as their fans think they are.
May 26, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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Of course you would say that. It especially funny considering Trotz's system was the same in Washington and yet they were far better across the board. According to natural stattrick, the Islanders are just extremely lucky. Only 5 of their players have a positive expected goals percentage. In case you don't understand what that means, it means that the Islanders according to the chances they create vs what they give up should usually be in the negative. No one in the world survives for long with numbers like that. They lack talent and have been lucky. As you yourself likes to say, numbers don't lie.


Now you use natstattrick lol - yes, the isles get "outplayed" because trotz doesn't care if the opposing team spends time in our zone, as long as shots are kept to the outside.

You know who else got lucky? Morgan Rielly with his insane shooting percentage last season. At least he got a Norris vote! He came back down to earth this season.
May 26, 2020 at 7:23 p.m.
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Not true at all. Team fell apart defensively when Pelech hurt himself.


Pelech also has negative metrics in most important stats. His PDO is above 1 as well. The team just was never that good, for over a year they outscored their expected goal share and that just doesn't last. Its like when a player scores a bunch of goals one year but had a shooting % that was incredibly high, it will average out and you'll see them fall back to earth. Like William Karlsson, he shot way above his career normals and when it fell back to normal numbers he was a 25 goal scorer. Still had the same number of chances and shots but didn't score at a ridiculous percentage.
May 26, 2020 at 7:24 p.m.
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They don't have a top pair RHD. Pulock plays that position but that doesn't mean he's good at it. According to his advanced metrics, he's below average. Much like their whole team. Most of the team has a PDO above 1, that is the best metric to determine a players luck, the Islanders are not as good as their fans think they are.


according to his advanced metrics, he is a top pairing RHD. He is 2nd among all NHL defenseman in goals above replacement, hes in the 81st percentile defensively, and is top 10 in SPAR (standing points above replacement) since the 17-18 season. Shut the f*ck up lol
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Now you use natstattrick lol - yes, the isles get "outplayed" because trotz doesn't care if the opposing team spends time in our zone, as long as shots are kept to the outside.

You know who else got lucky? Morgan Rielly with his insane shooting percentage last season. At least he got a Norris vote! He came back down to earth this season.


I mean 72 points was probably a bit much for Rielly, yes, but he came back down well below what he actually is this season. He played nearly the whole season injured and still put up good numbers. Healthy he's good for at least 60 points.
May 26, 2020 at 7:25 p.m.
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Pelech also has negative metrics in most important stats. His PDO is above 1 as well. The team just was never that good, for over a year they outscored their expected goal share and that just doesn't last. Its like when a player scores a bunch of goals one year but had a shooting % that was incredibly high, it will average out and you'll see them fall back to earth. Like William Karlsson, he shot way above his career normals and when it fell back to normal numbers he was a 25 goal scorer. Still had the same number of chances and shots but didn't score at a ridiculous percentage.


Most important stats ha! - he has better defensive metrics than any player on the leafs and he is elite on the PK.
 
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