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Created by: leafs101
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2020
Published: May 26, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
How hilarious would that be
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3$925,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
CAR
  1. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Pulock, Ryan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
If Marner scores 100 points, the 3rd becomes a 1st
3.
TOR
  1. 2020 4th round pick (DAL)
4.
TOR
  1. Komarov, Leo
Additional Details:
Meant to take on Leo as a cap dump as well
NYI
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,371,783$0$0$128,217

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Lafreniere, Alexis
$925,000$925,000
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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May 26, 2020 at 8:48 p.m.
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lol lets all just chill tf out


Nah this clown is constantly getting on my case with zero substance just bitterness and small man syndrome
May 26, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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lol lets all just chill tf out


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According to natural statstrick, they do not win the high danger chances battle either. Last season and for part of this season they had way above average save percentages in those areas and it isn't sustainable over the long run. Most hockey people have a lot of trouble with War and Gar due to it being harder to correlate and seems to not always represent a player's skill properly.


“Most hockey people” 😂

Notice how you didn’t mention SPAR!
May 26, 2020 at 8:51 p.m.
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Lol you are such a joke. You are a huge hypocrite and all around just a bitter little baby. Lol calls me passive aggressive.


If you're mad now, wait until Toronto loses to Columbus lol
May 26, 2020 at 9:19 p.m.
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Marner would put up 60-65 pts in the isles system. Removing pulock and beauvillier, adding Marner doesn't make the isles a better team now.


Marner doesn't make them better....? He makes any team in the NHL better.
Don't be ridiculous
May 26, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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“Most hockey people” 😂

Notice how you didn’t mention SPAR!


I don't really know how accurate WAR, SPAR and GAR, they don't provide enough methodology for my liking. Hockey is way too much of a team sport for baseball style analytics. A team like the Islanders had a good season last year points wise but had crazy PDO numbers and negative in a lot of important metrics but still ended with a good season. Which makes those stats highly suspect. I still don't see any proof those other metrics tell anything other than hindsight success. And what I mean by that is a team wins 50 games in the season but was outshot out chanced and and frankly out played but still win, they show good in WAR and SPAR but the number red flags show the team isn't going to sustain its success. There are a lot of red flags with the Islanders and you can keep being a cheerleader and thinks it's going to be fine regardless of everything pointing to rough waters ahead. If the Leafs had as many red flags I would be gravely concerned. Fortunately for Leaf fans, most of their underlying numbers are terrific and with them being really young and just learning a new system, the sky's the limit on where they can go.
May 26, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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If you're mad now, wait until Toronto loses to Columbus lol


So clever
May 26, 2020 at 9:40 p.m.
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Edited May 26, 2020 at 9:46 p.m.
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
I don't really know how accurate WAR, SPAR and GAR, they don't provide enough methodology for my liking. Hockey is way too much of a team sport for baseball style analytics. A team like the Islanders had a good season last year points wise but had crazy PDO numbers and negative in a lot of important metrics but still ended with a good season. Which makes those stats highly suspect. I still don't see any proof those other metrics tell anything other than hindsight success. And what I mean by that is a team wins 50 games in the season but was outshot out chanced and and frankly out played but still win, they show good in WAR and SPAR but the number red flags show the team isn't going to sustain its success. There are a lot of red flags with the Islanders and you can keep being a cheerleader and thinks it's going to be fine regardless of everything pointing to rough waters ahead. If the Leafs had as many red flags I would be gravely concerned. Fortunately for Leaf fans, most of their underlying numbers are terrific and with them being really young and just learning a new system, the sky's the limit on where they can go.


“They don’t provide enough methodology for my liking”

Basically you want to disregard the metrics so you don’t have to admit the player is good! Sounds rational to me.

By the way, the caps were not a good 5 v 5 team the year they won the cup. In fact, they were well below average by every metric including expected goals!

I know that just put a dent in your narrative, that’s my bad.
May 26, 2020 at 9:42 p.m.
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So clever



I mean I wouldn’t want to go into a playoff series with a goaltender who has trouble stopping low danger shots.

Maybe Reilly will learn to play defense to make his job a bit easier.
May 26, 2020 at 10:04 p.m.
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“They don’t provide enough methodology for my liking”

Basically you want to disregard the metrics so you don’t have to admit the player is good! Sounds rational to me.

By the way, the caps were not a good 5 v 5 team the year they won the cup. In fact, they were well below average by every metric including expected goals!

I know that just put a dent in your narrative, that’s my bad.


Corsi and everything on natural statrick are easy to follow and understand. They use numbers that point directly to play and shows how a player plays across many different areas. The others don't really show how they even come to their conclusions which is why many people, not just myself are unsure of how accurate those other metrics are. What is funny about your words though is how you ignore everything but use only what paints a bright picture for your argument.
May 26, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
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I mean I wouldn’t want to go into a playoff series with a goaltender who has trouble stopping low danger shots.

Maybe Reilly will learn to play defense to make his job a bit easier.


That is all just bs much like everything you say. You probably are also someone who thinks 5g is brain control.
May 26, 2020 at 10:25 p.m.
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Corsi and everything on natural statrick are easy to follow and understand. They use numbers that point directly to play and shows how a player plays across many different areas. The others don't really show how they even come to their conclusions which is why many people, not just myself are unsure of how accurate those other metrics are. What is funny about your words though is how you ignore everything but use only what paints a bright picture for your argument.


Oh so you only want to look at metrics that are easy to understand. Got it! Trotz teams rarely have good 5 v 5 metrics (especially Corsi) and another thing, his teams almost always outperform their expected goals for % . It’s almost as if the context matters wink

It’s pretty funny watching you do mental gymnastics trying to prove that pelech and pulock aren’t top pairing defenseman. You should go argue with every person on this site and twitter (including many leafs writers) that acknowledge that they are.
May 26, 2020 at 10:26 p.m.
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That is all just bs much like everything you say. You probably are also someone who thinks 5g is brain control.


lol
May 26, 2020 at 10:46 p.m.
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Oh so you only want to look at metrics that are easy to understand. Got it! Trotz teams rarely have good 5 v 5 metrics (especially Corsi) and another thing, his teams almost always outperform their expected goals for % . It’s almost as if the context matters wink

It’s pretty funny watching you do mental gymnastics trying to prove that pelech and pulock aren’t top pairing defenseman. You should go argue with every person on this site and twitter (including many leafs writers) that acknowledge that they are.


So I did look back at numbers for Washington players under Trotz and your claim falls short, much like everything you say. Washington was a very good possession team and they had very good expected goal percentages as well. Why? Because the team was very good at protecting their net but also could create offense. The better players in Nashville generally all had positive numbers in possession and expected goals. Good teams allow less chances than they create, the Islanders do not do that. Which is why their expected goal percentages are below 50% that can work over a short sample size but it will eventually come back to haunt you. Ottawa went to the Conference finals and was a goal away from going to the cup but that team was really bad at possessing the puck and creating offence. The next season it all balanced out and they were terrible. That is what you can look forward to. Success over a long term comes from being able to outscore your opponent and I am not saying you just have to score more and not defend, you need both and if you can show a positive expected goal numbers consistently, you'll win more than you lose. And I'd you don't have a positive expected goal metric, over the long run you won't be winning much.
May 26, 2020 at 10:53 p.m.
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So I did look back at numbers for Washington players under Trotz and your claim falls short, much like everything you say. Washington was a very good possession team and they had very good expected goal percentages as well. Why? Because the team was very good at protecting their net but also could create offense. The better players in Nashville generally all had positive numbers in possession and expected goals. Good teams allow less chances than they create, the Islanders do not do that. Which is why their expected goal percentages are below 50% that can work over a short sample size but it will eventually come back to haunt you. Ottawa went to the Conference finals and was a goal away from going to the cup but that team was really bad at possessing the puck and creating offence. The next season it all balanced out and they were terrible. That is what you can look forward to. Success over a long term comes from being able to outscore your opponent and I am not saying you just have to score more and not defend, you need both and if you can show a positive expected goal numbers consistently, you'll win more than you lose. And I'd you don't have a positive expected goal metric, over the long run you won't be winning much.


Wrong!

17-18 caps
47.36% xGF% (24th)
48.3 CF% (23rd)
48.6 SCF% (23rd)

And they were ranked 29th in xGA/60
May 26, 2020 at 10:57 p.m.
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Wrong!

17-18 caps
47.36% xGF% (24th)
48.3 CF% (23rd)
48.6 SCF% (23rd)

And they were ranked 29th in xGA/60


And yet individually that's not what I see with all of their top players. I was only briefly looking so I may have missed some stuff but also you are 100% full of **** so I doubt everything you say. Either way, the Islanders are a mirage
May 26, 2020 at 11:05 p.m.
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And yet individually that's not what I see with all of their top players. I was only briefly looking so I may have missed some stuff but also you are 100% full of **** so I doubt everything you say. Either way, the Islanders are a mirage


Hahaha keep ignoring the facts.

You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts. People in the U.S who act like you tend to be a fan of Bernie sanders
May 26, 2020 at 11:38 p.m.
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Hahaha keep ignoring the facts.

You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts. People in the U.S who act like you tend to be a fan of Bernie sanders


As a Canadian I'll take that as a compliment.
May 27, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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Wrong!

17-18 caps
47.36% xGF% (24th)
48.3 CF% (23rd)
48.6 SCF% (23rd)

And they were ranked 29th in xGA/60


According to Natural Statrick they had a postive CF% in 50 of 82 games which would make it damn near impossible for their overall CF% to be under 50%. They were outshot on average but if I remember correctly they also were a team that had the lead a tonne that season which often skews shot metrics, teams shoot a lot more when they are trailing than when they are ahead or tied. Which is one of the reasons why TO gave up so many shots last season and the year before, they were also a team that had the lead more often than not.

For xGF% they won that battle in 62 of 82 games, making your numbers above highly suspect, but I suppose Natural Statrick is filled with lies. As the leader of your once great country likes to say, anything that doesn't support him is Fake News. Well you can shout that to all your supporters all you want but the rest of the world is laughing at you.
May 27, 2020 at 11:44 a.m.
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Please ban me for my own good is the 2nd biggest Leafs homer on this site. Why bother
May 27, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.
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Please ban me for my own good is the 2nd biggest Leafs homer on this site. Why bother


lol who's number 1
May 27, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.
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lol who's number 1


Sammy T

Neither possess the ability to have a rational hockey related conversation with fans of other teams without acting like everything they say is correct.
May 27, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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Don't worry the islanders wouldn't make this trade either.


LMAO YOU THA BOSS ...

Career points per game leaders out of all 1,700 players drafted since 2012:

01. 1.34 = Connor McDavid (2015)
02. 1.01 = Auston Matthews (2016)
03. 1.00 = Leon Draisaitl (2014)
04. 0.97 = Mitch Marner (2015)
05. 0.96 = David Pastrnak (2014)
06. 0.95 = Jack Eichel (2015)
07. 0.94 = Nate MacKinnon (2013)
08. 0.89 = Miko Rantanen (2015)
09. 0.88 = Mathew Barzal (2015)
10. 0.85 = Aleks Barkov (2013)

Check that booty ... He's miles ahead of Barzal too, even though he started his career a year earlier.
 
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