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Pietrangelo fits

Created by: Trickster
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2020
Published: May 27 at 6:47 pm
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
Assuming no CBOs and cap will remain 81.5 million for next 3 seasons.

Yes the trade is a cap dump and I'm open to changing the trade.
Buffalo makes sense as potential landing spots for Perreault seeing that his NTC list is only 5 teams and there is a chance he would be at least middle 6 FW there, meaning opportunities to perform.


Without trading Little away, adding a 2nd line C is not gonna happen.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Niku, Sami2$925,000
Roslovic, Jack2$2,550,000
Harkins, Jansen1$800,000
Appleton, Mason1$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Shore, Nick2$800,000
Smith, Mike1$1,250,000
Pietrangelo, Alex7$8,500,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Cederqvist, Filip [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 5th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Perreault, Mathieu
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WPG
WPG
WPG
BUF
WPG
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,367,022$0$1,062,500$2,132,978
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
WPG
Laine, Patrik
$6,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$2,550,000
RW, C
RFA
WPG
Vesalainen, Kristian
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 2
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,666
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$800,000
C
RFA
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$925,000
RW, C
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
Pietrangelo, Alex
$8,500,000
RD
UFA
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
WPG
Heinola, Ville
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
Smith, Mike
$1,250,000
G
UFA
WPG
Dahlström, Carl
$850,000
LD
RFA - 1
WPG
Niku, Sami
$925,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
WPG
Shore, Nick
$800,000
C
UFA

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May 27 at 6:49
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CGY
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Another option is to trade for Cirelli and sign Hamonic. He's not in the same world as Petro, but he would cost half as much and you plug 2 holes instead of one
May 27 at 6:50
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How is Little??

Buffalo won't trade a prospect for a bottom 6, at best, even on their team...
May 27 at 6:53
#3
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Didn’t Pietrangelo turn down $9M from St Louis
May 27 at 6:53
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Hugh Hefner of CF
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Quoting: ItWasIn
Another option is to trade for Cirelli and sign Hamonic. He's not in the same world as Petro, but he would cost half as much and you plug 2 holes instead of one


There will be offer sheet competition for Cirelli.
Pietrangelo less.
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May 27 at 6:54
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Quoting: ItWasIn
Another option is to trade for Cirelli and sign Hamonic. He's not in the same world as Petro, but he would cost half as much and you plug 2 holes instead of one


What holes do you create trading for Cirelli??
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May 27 at 6:54
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Hugh Hefner of CF
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Quoting: Xqb15
Didn’t Pietrangelo turn down $9M from St Louis


Didnt hear about that.
Is this confirmed??
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May 27 at 6:55
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May 27 at 6:59
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Nice Defense we have
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I mean I am all for it if Peitrangelo sings that paper, realistically I think we have him to throw 10 Million a year for him to even look our way, and I still doubt he would sign here.
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May 27 at 7:08
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Quoting: Trickster
Didnt hear about that.
Is this confirmed??

Definitely not confirmed, but read somewhere STL wanted to use OEL’s contract as the starting point for negotiations at $8.25 and he wanted more.
May 27 at 7:08
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Quoting: Riley816
What holes do you create trading for Cirelli??


Too many imo.

I do like these moves but dunno if Pietrangelo goes to Winning. Ideally trading Little is the way to go but his NMC makes it tougher.
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May 27 at 7:16
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Interesting, what made you think of Winnipeg besides their need?
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May 27 at 7:17
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Quoting: Xqb15
Definitely not confirmed, but read somewhere STL wanted to use OEL’s contract as the starting point for negotiations at $8.25 and he wanted more.


I think he will be lucky to get any more than 9.5.

Assuming the cap doesn't go up, teams like WPG, DAL, CGY, BUF are the only teams that can afford him without making a flurry of moves.
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May 27 at 7:21
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Quoting: ItWasIn
I think he will be lucky to get any more than 9.5.

Assuming the cap doesn't go up, teams like WPG, DAL, CGY, BUF are the only teams that can afford him without making a flurry of moves.


There is more than those, COL at the top of the list but they won’t sign him, it will be interesting to see what happens with him.
May 27 at 7:36
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Quoting: ItWasIn
I think he will be lucky to get any more than 9.5.

Assuming the cap doesn't go up, teams like WPG, DAL, CGY, BUF are the only teams that can afford him without making a flurry of moves.


Salary rollbacks are coming imo.. the tricky part of how much Pietrangelo gets is what percentage is a rollback going to be? It has to be negotiated.
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May 27 at 7:47
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Quoting: ItWasIn
I think he will be lucky to get any more than 9.5.

Assuming the cap doesn't go up, teams like WPG, DAL, CGY, BUF are the only teams that can afford him without making a flurry of moves.


Do those teams realy have space either though?
They have their own RFA'S to sign or that need to be signed the following summer which will require cap space plus some of those teams need forward help more then on defense.

Idk, I figure Armstrong must have this figured out, can't see Pietrangelo leaving St. Louis.
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May 27 at 7:51
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Well its a great contract considering he's probably wanting $10M+ and he's one of the best dmen in the league that would no doubt massively improve the Jets but he's not transplanting his family from Missouri to Manitoba.

Also if this did somehow happen is there enough cap space to sign Laine and Pionk the following summer, those are very important RFA'S that need to be signed long term.
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May 27 at 7:59
#17
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Do those teams realy have space either though?
They have their own RFA'S to sign or that need to be signed the following summer which will require cap space plus some of those teams need forward help more then on defense.

Idk, I figure Armstrong must have this figured out, can't see Pietrangelo leaving St. Louis.


Doubt he stays in St. Louis they wouldn’t have made the Faulk trade if they thought they could keep him.

The Blues also walked away from Backes while he was still productive. Petro is obviously much better than Backes, but Armstrong isn’t afraid to walk away from a key player if the ask is out of his range
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May 27 at 8:04
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Quoting: oneX
Too many imo.

I do like these moves but dunno if Pietrangelo goes to Winning. Ideally trading Little is the way to go but his NMC makes it tougher.


I don’t think trading for Cirelli makes that many holes.

We move Roslovic, Niku, B- prospect and a 1st. Roslovic would have never cracked our top 6, might have a chance to play top 6 at some point in TB due to cap crunch. Niku is a cheap #5 option, and the other prospect may have a chance to crack the roster. Plus that 1st, If its from 2020, likely is between 12-17. Roslovic gets replaced at 3RW by Appleton, Niku replaced by Samberg/Heinola.
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May 27 at 8:38
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Barrie could also work. Sure he sucks at defense but a pp with him could be terrifying on a goal scoring team like the jets

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May 27 at 9:31
#20
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I've predicted for months now that if Pietrangelo does not resign with St. Louis (looking grimmer by the day), he will end up in Winnipeg. His family wants to stay in Canada, and of the 7 available markets, a couple CAP (haha) themselves out right off the bat. I think he'd be a good fit in Calgary as well, but Winnipeg plays a more structured game under their coach Paul Maurice, so I think Pietrangelo will do quite well there. Not sure he will anything less than $9 million AAV per season though. As a back-up or other option, I also like Chris Tanev in Winnipeg.
May 27 at 11:53
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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000
Interesting, what made you think of Winnipeg besides their need?


I like the Jets.
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May 28 at 12:12
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Quoting: tsyls
I don’t think trading for Cirelli makes that many holes.

We move Roslovic, Niku, B- prospect and a 1st. Roslovic would have never cracked our top 6, might have a chance to play top 6 at some point in TB due to cap crunch. Niku is a cheap #5 option, and the other prospect may have a chance to crack the roster. Plus that 1st, If its from 2020, likely is between 12-17. Roslovic gets replaced at 3RW by Appleton, Niku replaced by Samberg/Heinola.


So you're not a fan of going after Pietrangelo and moving others to make everyone fit comfortably?
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May 28 at 8:31
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Quoting: Trickster
I like the Jets.


Fair enough, I just wasn't sure if maybe you heard something linking Petro and the Jets.
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May 28 at 9:48
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I love the idea of Pieterangelo, but it's a pipe dream IMO and would cost 9-11 AAV for max years. That's too much for too long for a 30 year old.
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May 28 at 11:33
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Quoting: masterjuddi
I love the idea of Pieterangelo, but it's a pipe dream IMO and would cost 9-11 AAV for max years. That's too much for too long for a 30 year old.


I think with cov19 now, it is possible he will take a little less.
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