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Created by: ClockReads2113

Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals

Initial Creation Date: May 7, 2020

Published: May 28, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Trade only happens if Marco Rossi is available with BUF pick.

BUF desperately needs to become a good team and Kuznetsov instantly does that. Having an Eichel-Kuznetsov 1-2 punch would be awesome. And Skinner's shot with Kuznetsov's elite passing would be a perfect match. And before anyone says no way BUF makes that trade, did you hear Pegula's and Botterilli's comments yesterday and Eichels today? They are DESPERATE to take the next step and Kuznetsov instantly notches them up a level. They can't wait 1-2 years for Rossi or any other player, they need results now.

Caps do a quick re-tool on the fly while staying a very competitive team. Rossi-McMichael-Protas will be one of the best, if not the best, center depths in the league for a long time (already have Backstrom too). Add in Vrana, Wilson, Sprong, and hopefully another high end forward with their 1st round pick (Lapierre, Bourque, Perreault, Mysak, maybe luck out with Jarvis) will make a top tier top 9. Alexeyev, Fehervary, and Seigenthaler is a really strong backend though they will need to find 1 more top 4 piece. Then having Samsonov-Vanecek in net would be the cherry on top. The window will be wide open for a long, long time.

I traded Panik to anyone because he doesn't deserve to be on a 4th line. He deserves top 9 minutes.

Move Kempny and brought back the boi Mike Green.

With the extra money I splurged on Hall. He might not sign a 2 year deal but he might not get a better deal out there, at least from a top tier team like the Caps.

McMichael is probably not a NHL C right now but put him between 2 very good NHLrs and he should be fine. If he isn't Eller can handle it for a year. Protas might be able to handle it too.

Still $4M to mess around with.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Siegenthaler, Jonas	2	$1,750,000
Sprong, Daniel	2	$900,000
Boyd, Travis	1	$900,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Heed, Tim	1	$1,000,000
Hall, Taylor	2	$10,000,000
Green, Mike	2	$2,000,000

Trades

WSH

2020 1st round pick (BUF)

BUF

Kuznetsov, Evgeny
2020 3rd round pick (ARI)

WSH

2020 3rd round pick (CGY)

CHI

Pánik, Richard

Additional Details:

To anyone that needs a good top 9 forward.

WSH

2020 2nd round pick (STL)

MTL

Kempný, Michal

Buried

Pheonix Copley: $25,000 ($1,100,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$72,517,379	$419,749	$732,500	$8,982,621

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,538,462$9,538,462 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Bäckström, Nicklas $9,200,000$9,200,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Vrána, Jakub $3,350,000$3,350,000 LW UFA - 1
Hall, Taylor $10,000,000$10,000,000 LW UFA - 1	McMichael, Connor $894,167$894,167 LW, C RFA - 4	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Sprong, Daniel $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Eller, Lars $2,415,000$2,415,000 C UFA - 3
	Dowd, Nic $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 2	Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 5
Hagelin, Carl $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 3		Hathaway, Garnet $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Siegenthaler, Jonas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD UFA - 1	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 6	Samsonov, Ilya $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) G UFA - 1
Orlov, Dmitry $1,275,000$1,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Jensen, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Vanecek, Vitek $716,667$716,667 G UFA - 2
Fehérváry, Martin $791,667$791,667 ($132,500$132K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Green, Mike $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Boyd, Travis $900,000$900,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Heed, Tim $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA

May 28, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.

swinny

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IF the Caps ever decided to move Kuznetsev, rest assured, they are getting more than a 1st round pick.

Feel you are very light on that return! I would suggeat your missing a RD in that deal - say like Jokiarju.......

He maybe a 2nd line centre in Washington, but that because of Backstrom. He would be a 2nd line centre in Buffalo because of Eichel. But for a lot of teams, he is a 1st line option.

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May 28, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.

Eclipze

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Quoting: swinny

I wouldn’t trade a top 7 pick for a 28 year old Kuzy let alone a 20 year old top 4 RHD on top. Maybe a 2021 1st and conditional 2022 pick and a prospect or two.

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May 28, 2020 at 12:51 p.m.

Capitalfail67

Caps fan idk why

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Quoting: Eclipze

I wouldn’t trade a top 7 pick for a 28 year old Kuzy let alone a 20 year old top 4 RHD on top. Maybe a 2021 1st and conditional 2022 pick and a prospect or two.

Yeah Washington will gladly trade you a 1C who scores 70-80 points a year for a 2021 first round pick lmfao. You realize that Coleman got a 1st round pick. People on this site are embarrassing. A top 20! Center can only get the capitals a 1st and maybe another pick. Okay capitals might give Buffalo a 1st and a prospect for Eichel.

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May 28, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.

Capitalfail67

Caps fan idk why

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Quoting: swinny

Kuzy

For

Montour CM and a 2020 1st round pick. (Top5 protected)

May 28, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.

Shibbal18

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0% chance Sabres move that 1st for anyone over the age of 24

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May 28, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.

swinny

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Kuzy

For

Montour CM and a 2020 1st round pick. (Top5 protected)

That would work I think.

Aim high, meet in the middle lol

May 28, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.

swinny

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Quoting: Eclipze

I wouldn’t trade a top 7 pick for a 28 year old Kuzy let alone a 20 year old top 4 RHD on top. Maybe a 2021 1st and conditional 2022 pick and a prospect or two.

Guess that depends on how bad you wanna win.🤷‍♂️

For a team that hasn't seen the playoffs in almost a decade, it maybe worth arguing it's a trade they do.

May 28, 2020 at 12:59 p.m.

swinny

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Quoting: Shibbal18

0% chance Sabres move that 1st for anyone over the age of 24

Why the rebuild well in Buffalo keeps spinning.

May 28, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

You think the Sabres want to give up 10 years of control on a player that could end up being as good as Kuzy whos already approaching the pinnacle of his career. They arent giving up picks and young talented players to get older and more expensive. The Sabres also dont have much cap room and cant take on significant amount of cap with out sending a similar amount back

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May 28, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.

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Shibbal18

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Quoting: swinny

That would work I think.

Aim high, meet in the middle lol

No it wouldnt, Sabres reject that

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May 28, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.

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Shibbal18

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Quoting: swinny

Why the rebuild well in Buffalo keeps spinning.

yes trading picks and prospects away is why they are struggling, kinda like this exact scenario

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May 28, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Maybe right. Issue here is that there is nothing in the UFA market. So unlike defense, where outside a select few teams would be selling low, a centre just has more value. He is only 28..... so he has 4-5 years of productive puck, so the deal is worth it.

Now if you wanna argue the term and Dylan Cozens - that changes the conversation. But, a 1st and a high end prospect isn't a big ask here at all.

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May 28, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: Shibbal18

No it wouldnt, Sabres reject that

Again, how bad do they want back in the playoffs?

The Pegula factor must be considered.

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May 28, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: Shibbal18

I wouldn't say 28 is old.

Sabres fans have been talking kid development for years, and yet still missing the playoffs. So, if it isn't Kuzy, it's clear something has to give.

At some point you dive into the deep part of the pool to push.

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May 28, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: Shibbal18

yes trading picks and prospects away is why they are struggling, kinda like this exact scenario

To an extent. But now that pipeline is better than its been in a decade. Unless you are arginng otherwise?

May 28, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.

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Shibbal18

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Quoting: swinny

Again, how bad do they want back in the playoffs?

The Pegula factor must be considered.

Kuzy doesnt put them in the playoffs. He puts them in a situation where they have to cut cap, its the same reason I'd want to move Reinhart, who they would struggle resigning after this trade as well.

May 28, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Reinhart? Really? I am shocked to hear that honestly.

I can see the long term concerns, but a willingness to move Reinhart without a deal I find surprising.

What's your long term thinking? Curious.

May 28, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.

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TheDuminator

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Habs fan:
Counter offer
2021-1st (10-15OA)+ Tatar + Poehling for Kuz

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May 28, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.

#19

Shibbal18

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Quoting: swinny

To an extent. But now that pipeline is better than its been in a decade. Unless you are arginng otherwise?

yes who is the pipeline (at forward)? Mitts, Cozens, and Pekar. I think their pipeline is at one of its low points, and Botts has patch worked this team up top with terrible contracts

May 28, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.

#20

Shibbal18

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Quoting: swinny

Reinhart? Really? I am shocked to hear that honestly.

I can see the long term concerns, but a willingness to move Reinhart without a deal I find surprising.

What's your long term thinking? Curious.

Long term, Id move Reinhart for at least 1 NHLer that I could gamble on being their #2C then a couple of prospects and a high pick. Id rather spread the money and talent out across the orig. This is what should have been done with ROR, and they'd be in much better condition. but they cant have nearly 50% of their cap tied into 5 players (Eichel Skinner, Okposo, Olofsson, Reinhart)

May 28, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Well, both the Skinner and Okposo contracts are ugly. Not helping. Skinner was overpaid by about $1-1.5 million. Okposo at the time was a fit, but wow..... just wow.

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May 28, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.

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Eclipze

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Comparing Tampa trading a late 1st for Coleman who has a very friendly contract has 0 comparisons to Buffalo trading a top 7 pick and young top 4 RHD for Kuzy. Tampa is a powerhouse looking for a cup and need players like Coleman. Yes Kuzy would instantly make the sabres better but he’s not what they need to make them to a cup winning team.

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May 28, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.

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Bitemoi

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

But there is a large gap between Eichel and Kutzy...
Very large gap to some.

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May 28, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.

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Bitemoi

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Kutzy has peaked... he would/will need to play with elite talent to have any improvement for him...
While uber talented, Kutzy just doesnt love to play hockey.... you can see it in his game. Here one game, gone the next two.... when hes on hes a great #2 centre... but 40% of the time you get that guy that only looks for points. No defense, no skating away from puck, not talking his man.

Buffalo can do much better than Kutzy for a high pick in this draft.

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May 28, 2020 at 2:09 p.m.

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Capitalfail67

Caps fan idk why

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Quoting: Eclipze

he literally scored 30 points and was the capitals best player during their cup win. he was the main reason they won? Coleman is a 3rd line winger kuzy is a 1c...yeah its silly I had to explain why his value is more than a 1st....

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