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Legit offer for Eichel

Created by: MadLin27
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2020
Published: May 28, 2020
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Decent offer from the Habs, Sabres still say no?
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,500,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
  2. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
  3. Suzuki, Nick
  4. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
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2020
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2021
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19$81,500,000$71,878,809$0$3,350,000$9,621,191
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
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UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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UFA - 3
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
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UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
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$763,333$763,333
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
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UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 1

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May 28, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.
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Thank you
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May 28, 2020 at 4:01 p.m.
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That’s probably the best offer I have seen that is realistic and balanced.
May 28, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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Legit? Overpay you must say.
May 28, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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most reasonable offer ive seen yet
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May 28, 2020 at 4:12 p.m.
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lol Montreal would hang up. I don't care if it's Connor McDavid, you don't give up all of those assets for one player.
May 28, 2020 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Jmcp
Legit? Overpay you must say.


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lol Montreal would hang up. I don't care if it's Connor McDavid, you don't give up all of those assets for one player.


You don't get players like that for much less.
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May 28, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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You don't get players like that for much less.


I'm not going to diss Jack Eichel because you simply can't, but I'd rather trade that first and Suzuki for 2nd overall than give up all of those extra players for Eichel.
May 28, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
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I'm not going to diss Jack Eichel because you simply can't, but I'd rather trade that first and Suzuki for 2nd overall than give up all of those extra players for Eichel.


Fair. The point is when trading for a player like Eichel you have to overpay.
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May 28, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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Quoting: MadLin27
Fair. The point is when trading for a player like Eichel you have to overpay.


Yeah for sure
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May 28, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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Fair. The point is when trading for a player like Eichel you have to overpay.


I agree, but when a franchise player leaves, it is because there is some sort of a dead-end situation (contract negociation, trade request because the teams want to rebuild, etc.)

So if Eichel leaves, it is because he and the Sabres are not on the same page. Therefore, Buffalo doesn't COMPLETELY have a full leverage here.

Take the Karlsson trade as a comparative. Karlsson is not worth as much as Eichel, but still. He was arguably a top5 D in the league when he was traded and Eichel a top 5 C in the league too. So for a massive trade like that, then you can assume there is 2-3 primary pieces. For Ott, it was the a 2020 1st and Josh Norris. The rest was complementary pieces.

So for Eichel, there is probably 2-3 primary pieces. Certainly one of KK/Caufield/Suzuki as a starter. Certainly a 1st round pick, I assume it will be in 2021 or 2022. Certainly another top quality prospect (one of Romanov, Primeau or Poehling perhaps?). And for sure a roster player and complementary pieces like 2nd rd and all.

To be realistic, a trade needs to have a slighty chance to happen, and for that, you need to put a context with it, and take similar trades as a reference.
May 28, 2020 at 4:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Jmcp
I agree, but when a franchise player leaves, it is because there is some sort of a dead-end situation (contract negociation, trade request because the teams want to rebuild, etc.)

So if Eichel leaves, it is because he and the Sabres are not on the same page. Therefore, Buffalo doesn't COMPLETELY have a full leverage here.

Take the Karlsson trade as a comparative. Karlsson is not worth as much as Eichel, but still. He was arguably a top5 D in the league when he was traded and Eichel a top 5 C in the league too. So for a massive trade like that, then you can assume there is 2-3 primary pieces. For Ott, it was the a 2020 1st and Josh Norris. The rest was complementary pieces.

So for Eichel, there is probably 2-3 primary pieces. Certainly one of KK/Caufield/Suzuki as a starter. Certainly a 1st round pick, I assume it will be in 2021 or 2022. Certainly another top quality prospect (one of Romanov, Primeau or Poehling perhaps?). And for sure a roster player and complementary pieces like 2nd rd and all.

To be realistic, a trade needs to have a slighty chance to happen, and for that, you need to put a context with it, and take similar trades as a reference.


I appreciate that rationale. You make some fair points. I know you already acknowledged that Eichel has more value than EK, but I would emphasize that Eichels age and contract/term are another huge factor that puts Eichel in an entirely different category of value.

I could see my original trade with 1 first rounder instead of 2, but thats it. Even without leverage, Eichel gets you 4 key assets in my opinion.
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May 28, 2020 at 4:50 p.m.
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Best effort yet. Looks like enough to me and addresses centers for Buffalo which would be required for any Eichel trade. Nice work. Sabres hit reset and accept. Not the worst idea. Eichel will be gone in 5 years anyway. Might have a half-competent GM by then.
May 28, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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Hey, a real offer. Well done.
May 28, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
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I agree this trade is fair but parting with both Caufield and Suzuki is something I don't think the Habs would do. Substitute Suzuki with Drouin and I would do it.
 
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