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Eichel Wants Out

Created by: JumboFett
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2020
Published: May 28 at 4:09 pm
Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Team Explanation
Read the article... Oof McGoof!! 'nuff said.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sabres-captain-jack-eichel-fed-frustrated-losing/
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kellman, Joel2$825,000
Labanc, Kevin4$3,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Thornton, Joe1$750,000
Marleau, Patrick1$700,000
Heed, Tim1$700,000
Noesen, Stefan2$850,000
Trades
SJS
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (SJS)
  3. 2021 1st round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. 2020 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Sörensen, Marcus
SJS
  1. DeSmith, Casey
PIT
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
SJS
  1. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Roy, Jérémy [RFA Rights]
  2. Gambrell, Dylan
SJS
  1. Cogliano, Andrew
  2. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
  4. 2022 4th round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Burns, Brent
SJS
  1. 2021 4th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Cogliano, Andrew
SJS
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Mayfield, Scott
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2022 4th round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DAL
COL
NYI
ARI
TOR
SJS
OTT
PIT
WSH
2021
SJS
WSH
SJS
VAN
SJS
SJS
SJS
2022
SJS
SJS
SJS
DAL
NYI
SJS
SJS
SJS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,280,000$0$710,000$220,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
SJS
Kane, Evander
$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
SJS
Meier, Timo
$6,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
NYI
Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
SJS
Couture, Logan
$8,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 7
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
$5,625,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
SJS
Gregor, Noah
$768,333
C
RFA - 1
SJS
Thornton, Joe
$750,000
C
UFA
SJS
Labanc, Kevin
$3,250,000
RW, LW
RFA
Marleau, Patrick
$700,000
LW, C
UFA
SJS
Kellman, Joel
$825,000
C
RFA
SJS
Noesen, Stefan
$850,000
RW, LW
UFA
SJS
Händemark, Fredrik
$792,500
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
SJS
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
$7,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
$11,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
SJS
Jones, Martin
$5,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
SJS
Simek, Radim
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
SJS
Ferraro, Mario
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
SJS
Heed, Tim
$700,000
RD
UFA
SJS
Merkley, Ryan
$894,167
RD
RFA - 2

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May 28 at 4:10
#1
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Lol. No chance in a million years
May 28 at 4:11
#2
Nice Defense we have
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I honestly don't think there is any package the Sharks could throw together to make them say yes
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May 28 at 4:11
#3
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Quoting: Arlotti47
Lol. No chance in a million years


First, this is a hypothetical. All these AGM teams are...

Also, last I checked, Eichel can request a trade. Read the SportsNet article in the description. It's bad. grimace
May 28 at 4:12
#4
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And then add Hertl and Merkley
May 28 at 4:14
#5
Bandwagon fairweathe
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Sharks and buffalo should be trade partners but in a different sense, Sharks shipping some playoff tested talent to appease eichel and get back picks and prospects and some cheaper options to what they are paying now.
May 28 at 4:16
#6
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Quoting: bunzy1034
I honestly don't think there is any package the Sharks could throw together to make them say yes


Quoting: Claesson4Norris
And then add Hertl and Merkley


I feel bad for you guys in BUF. I hope something turns around for you, but if it doesn't Eichel might bounce for peanuts.
May 28 at 4:17
#7
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Quoting: JumboFett
First, this is a hypothetical. All these AGM teams are...

Also, last I checked, Eichel can request a trade. Read the SportsNet article in the description. It's bad. grimace


For that cheap? There’s no way
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May 28 at 4:17
#8
No regretzkys
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Counter:

Meier, Hertl, 1st rounder, maybe even another 1st rounder
May 28 at 4:18
#9
Nice Defense we have
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Quoting: JumboFett
I feel bad for you guys in BUF. I hope something turns around for you, but if it doesn't Eichel might bounce for peanuts.


Oh I am no Sabres fan, but even if he asked for a trade they would probably ask for a great young C, or elite prospect center, along with very good wingers.
May 28 at 4:18
#10
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Quoting: Birtle34
Sharks and buffalo should be trade partners but in a different sense, Sharks shipping some playoff tested talent to appease eichel and get back picks and prospects and some cheaper options to what they are paying now.


Sure, maybe. But I made this AGM team for posterity; mostly to see if SJ could afford the additional $10M.
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May 28 at 4:18
#11
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Quoting: JumboFett
I feel bad for you guys in BUF. I hope something turns around for you, but if it doesn't Eichel might bounce for peanuts.


Don't get it twisted, I don't care at all about Buffalo. Get Eichel out of my division.
May 28 at 4:22
#12
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Quoting: MadLin27
Counter:

Meier, Hertl, 1st rounder, maybe even another 1st rounder


Respectable counter, but I made this mostly to see if I could manage the cap hit with our current principle forwards.
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May 28 at 4:22
#13
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If the Sharks want Eichel, I think you are looking at Hertl, Merkley, and Tampa's first.

Hertl is not as good as Eichel, but is a legitimate first-line center, young, and signed to a great contract. Buffalo is going to demand that.
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May 28 at 4:27
#14
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Probably not a great match. You have to make 6 other trades to get 22 players under the cap.SJ picks aren't close enough. If they still had this year's 1st.

NJ is a good match.

Meier, Couture, a couple top prospects and 2020 1st from TB for Eichel, Okposo and Hutton???? Give Okposo a chance on a win now team. Hutton saves you a 3rd...
May 28 at 4:28
#15
Bandwagon fairweathe
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Quoting: JumboFett
Sure, maybe. But I made this AGM team for posterity; mostly to see if SJ could afford the additional $10M.


My thought was a possibility of starting fresh in net for sharks and some depth on the blueline that’s not over priced and over termed
May 28 at 4:28
#16
Go Wings Go
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Doubt the Sharks even have what it takes to get Jack Eichel out of Buffalo, And just picks alone wont cut it.
May 28 at 4:29
#17
KFTW
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Hertl and Meier would make Buffalo say yes
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May 28 at 4:30
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May 28 at 4:30
#19
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Quoting: DenisPotvin
If the Sharks want Eichel, I think you are looking at Hertl, Merkley, and Tampa's first.

Hertl is not as good as Eichel, but is a legitimate first-line center, young, and signed to a great contract. Buffalo is going to demand that.


With how deep this year's draft is I basically gave up three 1sts in trade. Also, I'm operating from the idea of adding him to our core, not building a new team around him. BUF has some good prospects waiting the be called up.
Also, according to the article, they may have to do some damage control to keep Dahlin. I looks like things aren't lookin so hot in NW NY.
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May 28 at 4:39
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Quoting: Birtle34
My thought was a possibility of starting fresh in net for sharks and some depth on the blueline that’s not over priced and over termed


Realistically speaking, the only moves we're likely to make are signing Toffoli, Greiss, and maybe adding another forward like Killorn or Bailey. Hopefully we keep our 2020 picks to use them in the draft, then we scour the undrafted overager juniors/Euro markets to cherry pick high-end talent to refill our prospect pool like we've already started doing.
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May 28 at 4:44
#21
My teams suck
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That is the worst Eichel offer I've seen yet. Ever.
May 28 at 5:22
#22
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The last thing Sharks need to do is make another huge trade for a star player. I feel bad for the GM that replaces Doug Wilson. Itll take him 5 years to make up for Wilson's mistakes.
May 28 at 5:31
#23
Fun must be always
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This would be crazy. I'm not gonna speculate as to what the package would have to be going back to BUF because a fair trade is always either too little or too much.

But if it could happen...wow...that would be f*cking wild.
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May 28 at 6:13
#24
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Quoting: Taxtime
That is the worst Eichel offer I've seen yet. Ever.


One more year of missing the Playoffs and trade offers may not be necessary. Jack might quit BUF, Botterill gets fired, and the owners entertain selling the franchise to Hartford or Quebec.

I feel bad for you guys. I don't know what the curse is, but there's something going on.
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May 28 at 6:18
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Quoting: Riley816
Probably not a great match. You have to make 6 other trades to get 22 players under the cap.SJ picks aren't close enough. If they still had this year's 1st.

NJ is a good match.

Meier, Couture, a couple top prospects and 2020 1st from TB for Eichel, Okposo and Hutton???? Give Okposo a chance on a win now team. Hutton saves you a 3rd...


I've seen a lot of people mention Meier.

I don't think a trade based around Meier could work. I know that his counting numbers haven't been *that* great, but his underlying numbers are top-notch. At even strength, he pushes the play at an elite level. With better linemates and more PP time, you have someone who could be a 90-point winger. While it is not a guarantee, given his youth and trajectory, saying that he has that potential is reasonable.

Obviously, Eichel is the more proven commodity, especially when it comes to offensive prowess. But asking the Sharks to trade a first-line-winger who has a reasonable shot at being an elite winger, along with numerous valuable assets is going too far.
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