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Eichel is sick of losing

Created by: CD282
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2020
Published: May 28 at 6:44 pm
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
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... but he didn't ask for a trade nor will he, IMO. This team has some really good pieces and will contend for a long time if developed properly, but I don't think there's a massive trade / signing in the team's near future. Steady as she goes... the losing is almost over.

The draft was done using Corey Pronman's list here: https://theathletic.com/1769140/2020/05/27/pronmans-2020-nhl-draft-board-top-122-prospects/

7. Rossi
33. Guhle
38. Neighbours
74. Robins

Personally I think this is the year Buffalo gets a break via the lottery, but I'm going to leave the pick at 7OA. In any case, if they can land Rossi at 7 I don't think they'll be disappointed as I think he's a top-5 talent and more NHL-ready than some of the guys listed ahead of him.

The Ristolainen trade was copied from an AGM by littlejerryseinfeld.

The other trades are using cap space to get some B prospects for taking useful but overpaid veterans with 1 year left on their deals. One thing the Sabres lack IMO is a good veteran presence in the locker room. Not sure how the trades would work out exactly but this is the general framework.

I don't follow the Sabres closely so if I've screwed up the lines / pairings or missed an obvious RFA signing, let me know.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Olofsson, Victor5$5,000,000
Kahun, Dominik3$2,750,000
Ullmark, Linus3$2,750,000
Montour, Brandon2$3,500,000
Mittelstadt, Casey2$1,000,000
Thompson, Tage2$750,000
Lazar, Curtis2$750,000
Johansson, Jonas2$750,000
Reinhart, Sam6$6,000,000
Lagesson, William2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Larsson, Johan2$1,500,000
Vesey, Jimmy2$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Rossi, Marco3$925,000
Trades
BUF
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WPG)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (SJS)
OTT
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Lagesson, William [RFA Rights]
EDM
  1. 2021 4th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Bozak, Tyler
  2. Kostin, Klim
STL
  1. 2020 4th round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BUF
BUF
OTT
WPG
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
SJS
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,766,667$0$4,337,500$3,733,333
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$5,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Kahun, Dominik
$2,750,000
LW, RW, C
RFA
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
Rossi, Marco
$925,000
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$6,000,000
RW, C
RFA
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
$4,500,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Bozak, Tyler
$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
BUF
Vesey, Jimmy
$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
BUF
Larsson, Johan
$1,500,000
C, LW
UFA
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$750,000
C, RW
RFA
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$750,000
C, RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$2,750,000
G
RFA
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,500,000
RD
RFA
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
Lagesson, William
$800,000
LD
RFA

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May 28 at 6:47
#1
Hoping for Perfetti
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Rossi won’t be in the NHL next year and there’s no chance the Blues do that.
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May 28 at 6:50
#2
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Bozak has 1 year left, the dont need to give up Kostin to move him.
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May 28 at 6:55
#3
Go Wings Go
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laugh laugh Then Eichel shouldn't have committed 8 years to Buffalo if he's sick of losing. Did he ever think that team was going anywhere anyways.
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May 28 at 6:55
#4
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They keep losing he will ask out. Don’t blame him either
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May 28 at 6:57
#5
burn the pegulas
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh Then Eichel shouldn't have committed 8 years to Buffalo if he's sick of losing. Did he ever think that team was going anywhere anyways.

bud you’re a red wings fan. i wouldn’t be talking sh*t on here if i was you.
May 28 at 6:58
#6
Shibbal18
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If they draft another defenseman in the first 2 rounds Eichel may ask for a trade though
May 28 at 6:58
#7
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh Then Eichel shouldn't have committed 8 years to Buffalo if he's sick of losing. Did he ever think that team was going anywhere anyways.


Impressive job Yzerman is doing in Detroit...
May 28 at 6:58
#8
Shibbal18
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh Then Eichel shouldn't have committed 8 years to Buffalo if he's sick of losing. Did he ever think that team was going anywhere anyways.


ROR committed for 7 to Buffalo
May 28 at 7:03
#9
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Impressive job Yzerman is doing in Detroit...


Hey at least he's weeding out Hollands trash.
May 28 at 7:03
#10
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Impressive job Yzerman is doing in Detroit...


Hey at least he's weeding out Hollands trash.
May 28 at 7:03
#11
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Impressive job Yzerman is doing in Detroit...


Hey at least he's weeding out Hollands trash.
May 28 at 7:04
#12
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Hey at least he's weeding out Hollands trash.


Good thing the season was canceled. You were about to set a new record.
May 28 at 7:06
#13
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: chloewoj
bud you’re a red wings fan. i wouldn’t be talking sh*t on here if i was you.


Yeah whens the last time Buffalo went on a 25 year run? Won 4 cups and 2 other cup finals last. Yeah i can't remember either because it's never happened before.
May 28 at 7:07
#14
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Good thing the season was canceled. You were about to set a new record.


Nah we were gong to win out. sarcasm
May 28 at 7:08
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
They keep losing he will ask out. Don’t blame him either


He can but if no other team wants him what can be do???

And Ottawa laughs...
May 28 at 7:13
#16
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Quoting: chloewoj
bud you’re a red wings fan. i wouldn’t be talking sh*t on here if i was you.


For teams Red Wings fans can talk **** to, Buffalo actually might be one of them. They have had more success in the last 9 years or so after all.

Quoting: Shibbal18
ROR committed for 7 to Buffalo


And look how that turned out.
May 28 at 7:17
#17
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Quoting: Shibbal18
ROR committed for 7 to Buffalo


The trade that ensures more seasons of losing. The Sabres would have been better off letting ROR take his bonus and either retire or play in another league...
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May 28 at 7:20
#18
burn the pegulas
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Quoting: Byrr
For teams Red Wings fans can talk **** to, Buffalo actually might be one of them. They have had more success in the last 9 years or so after all.



And look how that turned out.


no team that has 17 wins can talk sh*t about any other team. stop dwelling in the past.
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May 28 at 7:21
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Quoting: chloewoj
no team that has 17 wins can talk sh*t about any other team. stop dwelling in the past.


Ok but in the present you didn't have a very good season either. They still have a better result than Buffalo with the likely 1st pick rather than 7th.
May 28 at 7:27
#20
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Rossi won’t be in the NHL next year

He has nothing more to prove in the OHL.

Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
there’s no chance the Blues do that.

Depends on how much they want to keep their winning team together. They're likely over the cap even without re-signing Pietrangelo or Bouwmeester. If they buyout Steen and dump Allan for picks they still don't have enough space for Pietrangelo.
May 28 at 8:14
#21
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Quoting: Riley816
He can but if no other team wants him what can be do???

And Ottawa laughs...


Why wouldn’t any other team want him..? Also not my post so idrc what Ottawa says lol
May 29 at 6:50
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"It's one thing to be in the tight games. It's another thing to win them," Eichel said, noting the Sabres could benefit from additional veteran depth and toughness.

Looks like I was right.
May 29 at 9:21
#23
Hoping for Perfetti
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Quoting: CD282
He has nothing more to prove in the OHL.


Just because he has nothing left to prove doesn’t mean he’s NHL ready. Just because someone plays really well in junior doesn’t mean you can just immediately slit them into the 2nd line. People with nothing to prove in junior don’t even produce at the AHL level sometimes.

Quoting: CD282
Depends on how much they want to keep their winning team together. They're likely over the cap even without re-signing Pietrangelo or Bouwmeester. If they buyout Steen and dump Allan for picks they still don't have enough space for Pietrangelo.


Yeah there’s no way the Blues are signing Pietrangelo. And they don’t need the cap space that bad, so they’re not trading one of their best prospects to move out their 3rd line centre.
May 29 at 10:01
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Just because he has nothing left to prove doesn’t mean he’s NHL ready. Just because someone plays really well in junior doesn’t mean you can just immediately slit them into the 2nd line. People with nothing to prove in junior don’t even produce at the AHL level sometimes.

AHL isn't an option, so that's a moot point. From viewings in the OHL I think Rossi would be a better 2C than anyone else on the roster, especially since he'll be getting a really long offseason this summer/ fall to prepare.

Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Yeah there’s no way the Blues are signing Pietrangelo. And they don’t need the cap space that bad, so they’re not trading one of their best prospects to move out their 3rd line centre.

Maybe. What I wrote was that the trade was a framework idea anyhow, don't get too hung up on the detail.
 
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