Value-wise, it is hard to say whether or not the bruins would take eichel for Urho, Stud, Griz, Debrusk, and a 1st. Without overrating the bruins players, that is the bruins two top prospects, a solid top 6 player with a lot of room to grow, a good defensman with potential, and a 1st (albiet a low first). Clearly i am not overvaluing them lol
The bigger issue is that it just makes no sense for the bruins to do it at all: With Bergy, Krejci, Coyle, Kuraly, and then Stud, Freddy, Beecher all coming up, the bruins have too much depth and prospective talent to make this trade and ONLY send stud that way. Also giving up both Urho AND Griz leaves the LHD being Krug - chara - Lauzon - Moore, not bad, but once chara retires its a hole for the future. And it leaves them with no 2nd line wingers at all by trading debrusk. So here is my alternative that would leave them in better position moving forward, and make sense for both teams.
Chances are, it wont happen, but logically speaking, its a better shot that the bruins would take this than the other one.
Looking at the linesthere is certainly a slight gap on the RW, so again to give up that much for him is unlikely, but this is better than previous looks
EDIT: also just saw a carolina trade of Eichel for:
Bean, Jake
Suzuki, Ryan
Pesce, Brett
Trocheck, Vincent
2021 1st round pick (CAR)
and an AZ on of Eichel for:
Hayton, Barrett
Söderström, Victor
Stepan, Derek
Raanta, Antti
2021 1st round pick (ARI)
Vaak and Stud were a major part of this trade, they are the big big pieces (top 6 center prospect and top 4 Urho prospect)
The first remains so that will sweeten the deal
The new parts are Kase, Ritchie, and Krejci, adding MAJOR top 6 and middle 6 depth as well as two cheap young players that they will be able to sign. This should easily cover Debrusk and Griz from the other one
I know it's just for fun, but Boston gets robbed her in my opinion
What? Boston gets a top 10 center signed on a team friendly contract through his prime and gives up 0 pieces of their core and no top tier prospects... The only good thing about this trade for Buffalo is that you didn't throw Moore in there...
Let's make it clear. The Sabers are in absolutely no rush to trade Eichel. The only way you get him is through an overpay.
What? Boston gets a top 10 center signed on a team friendly contract through his prime and gives up 0 pieces of their core and no top tier prospects... The only good thing about this trade for Buffalo is that you didn't throw Moore in there...
Let's make it clear. The Sabers are in absolutely no rush to trade Eichel. The only way you get him is through an overpay.
Well its not a team friendly contract, its one of the 5 highest nhl contracts. Its not an overpay though
In saying that,
Quoting: BruinsBoy4
I know it's just for fun, but Boston gets robbed her in my opinion
It is much closer than Debrusk and Griz rather than Ritchie, Krejci, and Kase
Yeah, not a big fan of any 6:1 trades from a 100pt team and the 'scorched earth policy" it puts on BOS in this case...
Sooner find a more palatable 1:1 or 2:1 mixture...
A trade w/ that kinda mega-player-capital is more the trademark of some crappy club and their whiskey swilling GM who's down to their last deal, and is swinging for the Green Monster...
Yeah, not a big fan of any 6:1 trades from a 100pt team and the 'scorched earth policy" it puts on BOS in this case...
Sooner find a more palatable 1:1 or 2:1 mixture...
A trade w/ that kinda mega-player-capital is more the trademark of some crappy club and their whiskey swilling GM who's down to their last deal, and is swinging for the Green Monster...
Exactly what I said, but people said "dummy its gonna take more than just a few players" so here we are lol
Take a look at prospect / player values before commenting
did... checked them all, looks like a truck load of quantity and no quality, few r decent but none elite young proven NHLers or even top tier prospects... Buff has enough of those
did... checked them all, looks like a truck load of quantity and no quality, few r decent but none elite young proven NHLers or even top tier prospects... Buff has enough of those
Great fact checking...
That pkg includes the replacement players of 2-Future-HHOF...
did... checked them all, looks like a truck load of quantity and no quality, few r decent but none elite young proven NHLers or even top tier prospects... Buff has enough of those
Then clearly you havent.
Stud is a solid top 6 center prospect (high top 6 NHL videogame if that helps you). And Urho is solid top 4 dman
It actually doesn't look that bad. Krejci doesn't add any value to the Sabres though. Won't be competitive for at least 3 years if they lose Eichel so he's a piece to make $ work. Nothing more.
Probably a piece or two light as that 1st might very well be 31 OA. Then maybe another piece or two especially given it's in division. But not unreasonable.
Lol evidently not, i have people telling me the bruins reject cuz its bad value
Also everyone knows im not a homer, just look at all of my recent posts
Yeah other homer fans. Any rational person with hockey knowledge knows centres are the most valued position in the game. They control the center of the ice are pivotal defensively and just do way more than wingers. Just fan boys think a winger matters more.
It actually doesn't look that bad. Krejci doesn't add any value to the Sabres though. Won't be competitive for at least 3 years if they lose Eichel so he's a piece to make $ work. Nothing more.
Probably a piece or two light as that 1st might very well be 31 OA. Then maybe another piece or two especially given it's in division. But not unreasonable.
Moving a big piece will be hard for the bruins, truth is, they dont need him whatsoever, they would rather wait until his contract is up and then just sign him once the new wave of Boston players is here in 6 years (led by Pasta, Debrusk, Mcavoy, Carlo, Studnicka, Urho, Senyshyn, etc...)
But yeah maybe another team would offer up a bigger piece
Yeah other homer fans. Any rational person with hockey knowledge knows centres are the most valued position in the game. They control the center of the ice are pivotal defensively and just do way more than wingers. Just fan boys think a winger matters more.
Yes, but any smart person in real life knows Supply and Demand. There is a much higher supply of centers too (like how the bruins have two great "elite" centers in Bergy and Krejci, and the Pens have Crosby and Malkin, etc...) Again, just look at the NHL 20 ratings, there are far more 90+ Centers than RW/LW combined
Moving a big piece will be hard for the bruins, truth is, they dont need him whatsoever, they would rather wait until his contract is up and then just sign him once the new wave of Boston players is here in 6 years (led by Pasta, Debrusk, Mcavoy, Carlo, Studnicka, Urho, Senyshyn, etc...)
But yeah maybe another team would offer up a bigger piece
This is what they should do. Get him for free (except for money) in his prime. They're the one team that shouldn't bother overpaying for him now.
This is what they should do. Get him for free (except for money) in his prime. They're the one team that shouldn't bother overpaying for him now.
Exactly, So my point was, if he wants out (which he theoretically might) and he is gonna go to the bruins, they arent giving up their entire future for him lol. Its crazy. Thats why this trade seemed much more likely. Cuz they are giving up their two best prospects (and a low 1st), but they keep Debrusk and Griz. And they lose Kase and Ritchie who are both unproven anyway.
Exactly, So my point was, if he wants out (which he theoretically might) and he is gonna go to the bruins, they arent giving up their entire future for him lol. Its crazy. Thats why this trade seemed much more likely. Cuz they are giving up their two best prospects (and a low 1st), but they keep Debrusk and Griz. And they lose Kase and Ritchie who are both unproven anyway.
But that doesn't get it done. If Eichel demands out (which, even as a Sabres fan, he honestly should...) they get 10-20 offers. There are a ton that beat this offer. It is what the Bruins should pay but it doesn't get it done.
But that doesn't get it done. If Eichel demands out (which, even as a Sabres fan, he honestly should...) they get 10-20 offers. There are a ton that beat this offer. It is what the Bruins should pay but it doesn't get it done.
Thats fine, I guess thats the point. They dont need to do it so they wont shoot themselves in the foot for it.
Yes, but any smart person in real life knows Supply and Demand. There is a much higher supply of centers too (like how the bruins have two great "elite" centers in Bergy and Krejci, and the Pens have Crosby and Malkin, etc...) Again, just look at the NHL 20 ratings, there are far more 90+ Centers than RW/LW combined
That is utterly false. Every team has 4 centres to 8 wingers. There are more 90+ centres because being a centre is harder and requires much more skill. You cover more ice, you have more defensive responsibilities and you take faceoffs. Wingers skate up and down the wing and cover the point. Supply and demand, finding a Franchise centre is the most thing in demand. Just look at how many teams don't have one. Speaking of Boston in praticular, eventually both Bergy and Krejci will decline, its a wonder Bergeron hasn't already fallen off. Although his injuries are happening more often then before which is a sign of age.
But look at Montreal as an example, they have been looking for a franchise centre for over a decade with no luck, they have had a tonne of high quality forwards but no luck getting a franchise centre. Eichel is absolutely one of those and considering his age he's one of the top 5 most valuable players in the game I'd wager. He's up there with Matthews, Petterson, McKinnon, Point and Draisaitl.