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a team of the leagues most overrated players

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Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2020
Published: Jun. 1, 2020
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lines arranged in order of very overrated to somewhat overrated

please suggest other overrated players. disagree in a civil way
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28$83,500,000$75,310,638$0$6,327,500$8,189,362
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$2,463,139$2,463,139
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Caufield, Cole
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$897,500$897,500
LW, C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$3,750,000$3,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$2,475,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$5,800,000$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$6,100,000$6,100,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,050,000$1,050,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,850,000$2,850,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 1, 2020 at 1:46 a.m.
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Rakell isn’t overrated. He’s just on a **** team and has nothing to work with IMO
Jun. 1, 2020 at 1:48 a.m.
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Quoting: DarkShadowZz
Rakell isn’t overrated. He’s just on a **** team and has nothing to work with IMO


maybe. However he's always been talked about as being a top line talent when really he seems to be more of a 50 point guy... a 2nd liner. Mostly good for his trade value due to that contract.
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 1:51 a.m.
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maybe. However he's always been talked about as being a top line talent when really he seems to be more of a 50 point guy... a 2nd liner. Mostly good for his trade value due to that contract.


I agree. He’s a solid second line winger. He’s on an amazing contract.
Jun. 1, 2020 at 1:55 a.m.
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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Decent list, only one I’m gonna question you For is Carlo, but that’s about it, Also Where’s Ryan Strome? He’s a product of The panarin(from what I’ve heard) Erik Haula is basically the same with Vegas,
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 1:57 a.m.
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Taylor Hall! (most over-rated in the league)
Jacob Markstrom!

Carlo is underrated...
Jun. 1, 2020 at 1:58 a.m.
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Quoting: StoneFan
Decent list, only one I’m gonna question you For is Carlo, but that’s about it, Also Where’s Ryan Strome? He’s a product of The panarin(from what I’ve heard) Erik Haula is basically the same with Vegas,


Yeah both stromes should probably be here. Just forgot them.

Carlo is good, I have no doubt about it... I just think the Bruins fans are overly high on what he is though. A solid 2nd pairing guy that will be part of the franchise for a while, but he isn't an elite talent and I highly doubt he will ever be.

Haula is here because he realistically is a bottom six forward when some people still see him as a 2nd liner.
Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:01 a.m.
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Taylor Hall! (most over-rated in the league)
Jacob Markstrom!

Carlo is underrated...



I gotta give Hall credit for his hart trophy. That year was great. But people are clinging on to that performance too much... I guess as of now I agree that he is overrated... they're looking for a return to that performance. He's still close to a point per game though

I think you just have a thing against Markstrom in general lol. I think Demko is the overrated one of the two. Markstrom is developing nicely into a strong starting goalie. I don't think he's elite though.

Carlo is a weird one. He's kinda under the radar of non-bruins, but vastly overrated by the bruins fanbase. It could be that Bruins fans are trying to educate the other fanbases on what he is whilst doing it to an extreme.
Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:04 a.m.
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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Ight, there’s a coyote outside my house so I’ll say this before we end it
Hall is overrrated
Markstrom maybe
Even William Karlsson
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:09 a.m.
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Surprised Toews isn’t here. People love to use that word to describe him
Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:13 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:28 a.m.
Quoting: Wqrrior
I gotta give Hall credit for his hart trophy. That year was great. But people are clinging on to that performance too much... I guess as of now I agree that he is overrated... they're looking for a return to that performance. He's still close to a point per game though

I think you just have a thing against Markstrom in general lol. I think Demko is the overrated one of the two. Markstrom is developing nicely into a strong starting goalie. I don't think he's elite though.

Carlo is a weird one. He's kinda under the radar of non-bruins, but vastly overrated by the bruins fanbase. It could be that Bruins fans are trying to educate the other fanbases on what he is whilst doing it to an extreme.


Mark is 30 - he is what he is, the development stage was 8 years ago. Owning a career 0.911Sv% and losing record overall, and LTIR (which usually increases w/ age).
Yet VAN fans on CF are gonna pay him US$5.5 to 7M w/ term - now that's overrated defined, 100%.

If Carlo, 2nd-round pick (passed twice by VAN) is top-4 on the B's, a PK specialist w/ Chara, and cored w/ Chara, McAvoy, Krug in the main pairs...then he's top-4 on each and every club in the NHL, including Vancouver...All the while w/ less than 300gms played; underrated bro.


EDIT - Hall has only 5-playoff games in a 10-yr career!!!
* That tells me that a boat-load of his points are in "garbage time" - i.e.: his squads have been out of the playoff chase and likely by US Thanksgiving way too much; his points are meaningless!
Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:24 a.m.
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Why is Texier on this list? He’s a top 6 wing, just got injured and played well as a top 6 forward when he was healthy.

And I wouldn’t say Jenner is overrated. He’s a 3rd line center.

I’d also say the Bear, Rakell and Hughes shouldn’t be on this list. Bear was solid as a top 4 D, Rakell is the best forward on his team and Hughes was an overhyped rookie who failed to meet the lofty expectations.
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:35 a.m.
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
Surprised Toews isn’t here. People love to use that word to describe him


i think he is overpaid... that's about it. In his prime he was definitely great. Starting to slow a bit, but I didn't put anyone here declining strictly as a result of age.
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:37 a.m.
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Labanc a 23 year old kid making 1mil is over rated over Say Karlsson or Vlassic or Jones?
Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:39 a.m.
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Why is Texier on this list? He’s a top 6 wing, just got injured and played well as a top 6 forward when he was healthy.

And I wouldn’t say Jenner is overrated. He’s a 3rd line center.

I’d also say the Bear, Rakell and Hughes shouldn’t be on this list. Bear was solid as a top 4 D, Rakell is the best forward on his team and Hughes was an overhyped rookie who failed to meet the lofty expectations.


Bear is here because oilers fans think he's a top pair defenseman. He isn't. I do think he's a top 4 guy after a strong year.
I already gave my description of rakell... ducks fans still believe him to be an elite forward when really he's a 2nd liner on pretty much any other team. Far from what he was hoped to be. As a 27 year old, it seems like he has passed the high ceiling he was hoped to have reached.
You pretty much described my reasoning to why Hughes is here. Overhyped from the start. I kept him on here despite most everyone recognizing his poor season.

I guess Jenner doesn't really belong on here. I probably should have Anderson on here... I think these playoffs are his last chance to make a point towards if he is a fourth liner or a top 6 guy.

Yeah you won't agree with my assessment of Texier. I just don't think he is what Jackets fans hope him to be... no offense though!
Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Labanc a 23 year old kid making 1mil is over rated over Say Karlsson or Vlassic or Jones?


Overrated in trade value. He won't get as much as Sharks fans hope he will.
Jun. 1, 2020 at 2:59 a.m.
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Don't really know why Johnsson or Dermott are here. I guess people put Johnsson for a 2nd instead of a 3rd in some trades but its just a cap dump and draft pick that can't be used in ACGM so it doesn't really matter. I'd say Dermott is underrated, Leafs fans are just fine with cutting him but hes our 3rd best dman. For the dobber salary predictions hes right with Dillon and Stetcher while being younger but I dont think ppl view him among those guys at a talent level. Coleman is also not overrated, hes unreal defensively and don't really see many outrageous trade offers with him if any. Don't know how Labanc and Carlo are on this list either
Jun. 1, 2020 at 3:04 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
Mark is 30 - he is what he is, the development stage was 8 years ago. Owning a career 0.911Sv% and losing record overall, and LTIR (which usually increases w/ age).
Yet VAN fans on CF are gonna pay him US$5.5 to 7M w/ term - now that's overrated defined, 100%.

If Carlo, 2nd-round pick (passed twice by VAN) is top-4 on the B's, a PK specialist w/ Chara, and cored w/ Chara, McAvoy, Krug in the main pairs...then he's top-4 on each and every club in the NHL, including Vancouver...All the while w/ less than 300gms played; underrated bro.


EDIT - Hall has only 5-playoff games in a 10-yr career!!!
* That tells me that a boat-load of his points are in "garbage time" - i.e.: his squads have been out of the playoff chase and likely by US Thanksgiving way too much; his points are meaningless!


I agree Hall is overrated but wouldn't really blame him for being on awful teams. He went from a terrible Edmonton team to an even worse NJ team, can't really blame the guy. His MVP year he literally dragged the Devils to the playoffs. I don't think that he'll ever achieve that level again though, hes a 65-70 point guy thats average defensively with his MVP year being an outlier
Jun. 1, 2020 at 3:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior

Yeah you won't agree with my assessment of Texier. I just don't think he is what Jackets fans hope him to be... no offense though!


Texier will be a top 6 forward, he’s a decent wing right now. It was also his 1st year in NA and he played in the NHL. You’re correct, he didn’t have a ton of points, but if you look deeper, he had 51.1 corsi%, 19 oiGF and 15 oiGA. Not sure what you mean by no offense. I’d say for a rookie that’s not too bad.

Comparing him to Kakko’s 23 points in 66 games, a 43.5 corsi%, 21 oiGF, and 43 oiGA.

Coming from the larger ice surface to the smaller sheet is harder then people think. If Hughes and Texier are on the list Kakko should be too.
Jun. 1, 2020 at 3:16 a.m.
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I agree Hall is overrated but wouldn't really blame him for being on awful teams. He went from a terrible Edmonton team to an even worse NJ team, can't really blame the guy. His MVP year he literally dragged the Devils to the playoffs. I don't think that he'll ever achieve that level again though, hes a 65-70 point guy thats average defensively with his MVP year being an outlier


I wouldn't pay him a dime over US$6M and not lose any sleep when his agent walks...
He's on the back-9, swinging with crappy clubs and unless he's Hossa or Mario; production goes down for geysers...
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 3:17 a.m.
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Texier will be a top 6 forward, he’s a decent wing right now. It was also his 1st year in NA and he played in the NHL. You’re correct, he didn’t have a ton of points, but if you look deeper, he had 51.1 corsi%, 19 oiGF and 15 oiGA. Not sure what you mean by no offense. I’d say for a rookie that’s not too bad.

Comparing him to Kakko’s 23 points in 66 games, a 43.5 corsi%, 21 oiGF, and 43 oiGA.

Coming from the larger ice surface to the smaller sheet is harder then people think. If Hughes and Texier are on the list Kakko should be too.


oh i meant don't take offense

i feel like he will kinda be like kerfoot. maybe a fringe 2nd liner... but more of a 3C.
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 4:24 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
I wouldn't pay him a dime over US$6M and not lose any sleep when his agent walks...
He's on the back-9, swinging with crappy clubs and unless he's Hossa or Mario; production goes down for geysers...


I absolutely agree, I'm a yotes fan and I'd hate if they re-signed him, doesn't bring the value that another $9M+ player would bring. Even at 6 million with term could be a killer down the road. Was just trying to say it's not his fault hes been on trash teams and he isn't the reason they lose, he's a top six winger thats more of an extra piece than part of a core
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 4:46 a.m.
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Dermott? Kapanen?
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 6:49 a.m.
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Actually ADA and Georgiev are underrated

ADA has better numbers than Lindholm playing less minutes per game and with Staal as his partner

Georgiev has had starter numbers over the past 2 seasons


Strome yeah agreed he was carried big time by Panarin
Jun. 1, 2020 at 7:18 a.m.
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How is subban overrated? Pretty sure everyone agrees he sucks now.
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Jun. 1, 2020 at 7:59 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Actually ADA and Georgiev are underrated

ADA has better numbers than Lindholm playing less minutes per game and with Staal as his partner

Georgiev has had starter numbers over the past 2 seasons


Strome yeah agreed he was carried big time by Panarin


I agree with ADA not being overrated, hes gonna be an unreal dman, Georgiev is a little overrated, hes never even started 35 games, he has a solid sv% but his GAA is pretty high. Hard to say how he'd do outside of NY, personally I wouldn't pay too much to take a chance on him when you could probably get Demko for the same price if the Nucks resign Markstrom

*edit* not saying demko is better than Georgiev but I think both are legitimate risks and Demko being younger and a highly touted G prospect, I'd prefer to take a chance on him
 
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