I don't think Gardiner has this value, the gay had -24 last year!!! and he doesn't waive his NTC for MTL

He was better than that stat suggests. Youre right, maybe not a 2nd

the gay?

+/- as a stat is horrible. His offence was stunted due to a lack of depth scoring. His defence was... not great, but he was still really good overall.

Is OK for Gardiner in MTL (Only if he wants)
Canes would need to take a LHD contract with it like Kulak + low 2nd is fine

Tempting for Philly, Suzuki and Bean.

Don't think they'd want Dzingel, theyr'e pretty loaded at forward, look at their record this year and that was without Patrick and Lindblom at forward. With the cap space of moving Voracek and draft capitol they have (tradeable commodity in Ghost), I think they'd find a Voracek replacement elsewhere than Dzingel.

For salary purposes, maybe Suzuki, Bean and UFA to be Hamilton for Voracek and something else? Or JVR (2 mil salary retained) for Suzuki and Bean (and salary throw in like Dzingel)?

Flyers are pretty loaded at forward, defense and prospects across the board, but moving Voracek (who still has a prime game) or JVR' (pretty reliable 20-25 goals a year, even in limited minutes)s salaries would attract Philly's attention

If the Canes were to take Voracek or JvR they would have to move a contract back. And involving Hamilton in a trade for Voracek would be horrible for the Canes.

If Hamilton were included what do you think Philly could include? It would need to be something substantial

I agree and that's why Dzingel was included in original deal, hes just not what Philly would need, but IMO theres a big difference between Voracek and JVR:

Voracek, 2nd rounder and 2nd best defensive prospect in PHI system Egor Zamula for Bean, Suzuki and Hamilton (without salary retention) might work?
or
JVR, 1st rounder and 2nd best defensive prospect in PHI system Egor Zamula for Bean, Suzuki and Hamilton (without salary retention) might work? or just JVR (2 mil retained) and a 2nd for the original deal of Suzuki, Bean and Dzingel.

(Yes I'm not a fan of JVR, hes overpaid, but not massively, and hes a safe bet for 20-25 goals and 40-50pts, even on 3rd line).

Hamilton's UFA to be status and the expansion draft, (PHI would protect Provorov, Sanheim and Myers), both work against Hamiltons true value, and with Niskanen and Myers as RD, Hamilton would be a good add, but not a necessity, and likely only for a single season).
I really like Suzuki and Bean, and really like the idea of moving the size and duration of JVR's contract (although same applies for Voracek just in those terms), but CAR would be hard pressed to add value for either of those two contracts.

The trade that I think makes the most sense for both teams is the JvR (retained) and a 2nd for suzuki, Bean, and Dzingel.

Its quite a lot to pay for a slight upgrade on the wing, but id do it. We arent going to be able to protect Bean from Seattle so this works out