Guenztel not top 50 question mark

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Created by: gregb569

Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 9, 2020

Published: Jun. 9, 2020

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https://www.thescore.com/news/1975575

Unless Guenztel is named 10-1 thescore is really not gonna list him as a top 50 player left in the playoffs?? That's ludicrous

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Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
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Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:30 p.m.

bhavikp27

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Could be in the 40-20.

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Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:30 p.m.

LeafsFanForSomeReason

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This really seems like something that isn't worth getting worked up over.

Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Thescores list is kinda trash imo

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Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.

Ajp_18

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They could also think he’s possibly out injured. Idk why the list is and if it has other players who were injured at the end of the season on it.

Edit- after looking at the list Guentzel will likely be in the top 10. Crosby isn’t listed either.

Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.

crankshaft

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most of these list are dumb written by half hack wankers. Guentzel is easily top 15.

Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:03 p.m.

vr1995

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Edited Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.

Quoting: Ajp_18

idk if he will be and he shouldnt be, theres still mcdavid drai malkin pasta bergeron mackinnon kucherov kane panarin and ovie, id assume thats the top 10

edit: nvm panarin is there ion 11-20

Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.

Saskleaf

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Could be in the 40-20.

My list would have him 20-40. So why wouldn’t theirs?

Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.

AndrewLadd

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The score doesn’t rly know much ab hockey so

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Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.

OrganizedConfusion55

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Quoting: crankshaft

most of these list are dumb written by half hack wankers. Guentzel is easily top 15.

No he is not

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Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:06 p.m.

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crankshaft

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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55

No he is not

to each their own but in my opinion 43p in 41games gets you into top 15 consideration.

Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.

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bhavikp27

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Quoting: crankshaft

to each their own but in my opinion 43p in 41games gets you into top 15 consideration.

When he does that at least 3 straight seasons, let me know

Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.

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vr1995

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Quoting: crankshaft

to each their own but in my opinion 43p in 41games gets you into top 15 consideration.

in no order,

sid
mcdavid
drai
mackinnon
malkin
kucherov
matthews
marchand
pasta
bergeron
ovie
barkov
stone
panarin

thats minimum 15 better easily imo

Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.

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TheAlien

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I mean JT Miller is a bigger omission

Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.

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hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: bhavikp27

When he does that at least 3 straight seasons, let me know

By that logic. Matthews, Stone, Pastrnak, Mackinnon, Draisaitl, Panarin, McDavid, Barkov aren't in top 15 consideration either

Jun. 9, 2020 at 6:12 p.m.

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Could be in the 40-20.

Quoting: Ajp_18

Quoting: crankshaft

most of these list are dumb written by half hack wankers. Guentzel is easily top 15.

Quoting: Saskleaf

My list would have him 20-40. So why wouldn’t theirs?

Quoting: AndrewLadd

The score doesn’t rly know much ab hockey so

Quoting: crankshaft

to each their own but in my opinion 43p in 41games gets you into top 15 consideration.

Guentzel is a proven playoff performer. He was great in '17 and in '18 he was absolutely unstoppable. Cue the 4-goal game that put away Philly. In '18 he had 21 points in 12 games. If Pit went all the way he would have kept raking points. He's a great Corsi player and has great offensive instincts. He got 40 last year and was on pace to best that before he got hurt this year. He will be a HUGE addition for the playoffs. He's such a good winger for Sid and Geno, I wish we could clone him.

Jun. 9, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.

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bhavikp27

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

By that logic. Matthews, Stone, Pastrnak, Mackinnon, Draisaitl, Panarin, McDavid, Barkov aren't in top 15 consideration either

Jun. 9, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.

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Quoting: vr1995

in no order,

sid
mcdavid
drai
mackinnon
malkin
kucherov
matthews
marchand
pasta
bergeron
ovie
barkov
stone
panarin

thats minimum 15 better easily imo

I agree al these guys are better than Guentzel. I say top 20-40

Jun. 10, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.

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gregb569

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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

This really seems like something that isn't worth getting worked up over.

I didn't realize I was worked up..

Jun. 10, 2020 at 9:02 a.m.

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gregb569

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Quoting: boknowshockey53

I mean JT Miller is a bigger omission

Thats false lol

Jun. 10, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.

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LeafsFanForSomeReason

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Quoting: gregb569

I didn't realize I was worked up..

Nor did I say you were. I'm just pointing out that the list holds no weight to anything.

Jun. 10, 2020 at 4:06 p.m.

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TheAlien

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Quoting: gregb569

Thats false lol

What makes you say that? He was going to break Guentzel's most productive season plus he's able to stay healthy, all while doing it without being carried by the best hockey player of the 21st century

Jun. 15, 2020 at 11:33 a.m.

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OrganizedConfusion55

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Quoting: crankshaft

to each their own but in my opinion 43p in 41games gets you into top 15 consideration.

No, not to each his own. No one in their right mind has him in the top 15. Its a laughable matter to everyone outside of Pitt.

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