Larsson for Faksa

Boris Bagel

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Habs counter with Weal and a 5th for Chiasson

Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:02 p.m.

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I liked Chaisson's game for the oilers the last couple years. Better off to keep him, especially at a nice contract

Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.

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Still not a huge fan of this trade. We could probably find a 3c in FA instead.

Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.

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As a DAL fan, no. That pick is WAY too much.

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Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:33 p.m.

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Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:49 p.m.

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Did you read the trade explanation??

In any case, your PP sucks and you should be targeting a guy like Chiasson.

Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.

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Quoting: masterjuddi

I liked Chaisson's game for the oilers the last couple years. Better off to keep him, especially at a nice contract

I agree. I just needed the cap space and figured that it was easier to trade Chiasson than Neal, the other net-front PP guy. I'd rather keep Chasser because Edmonton's #1 PP in 40 years was 50% better with Chiasson than with Neal. That's huge.

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Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.

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Quoting: Shesterkin_next_GOAT

bottom 6 for a third?? I would go with a fourth if not a 5th for chiasson

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Habs counter with Weal and a 5th for Chiasson

Do you guys have any idea what the odds are that the 3rd turns into a player as good as Chiasson?

Jun. 12, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.

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As a DAL fan, no. That pick is WAY too much.

Meh. It's a late 2nd, it's probably not enough. If we can agree (I'm not sure we can) that Larsson is worth $4.5M and Faksa $2.75M, that's a $1.75M gap in value. What are the odds a late 2nd turns into an NHL player with that sort of value? Do you know?

Jun. 12, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.

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Did you read the trade explanation??

In any case, your PP sucks and you should be targeting a guy like Chiasson.

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Jun. 12, 2020 at 2:22 p.m.

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Still not a huge fan of this trade. We could probably find a 3c in FA instead.

I'm not either, to be honest. It was suggested by a Dallas fan and looked interesting so I thought I'd see what it looked like. I don't hate it either though... I guess it depends on how quickly Bouchard is ready to play top-4.

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Jun. 12, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.

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First, Larsson is not worth $4,5M.

Second, Faksa is worth more than $2,75M.

Third, no, we're probably not going to find an agreement because we both overvalue our own assets,

Jun. 12, 2020 at 3:02 p.m.

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Do you guys have any idea what the odds are that the 3rd turns into a player as good as Chiasson?

Gallagher was a 5th rounder ....

Jun. 12, 2020 at 3:14 p.m.

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Gallagher was a 5th rounder ....

You're avoiding the question. Anyone can cherry pick successes. What are the odds?

Jun. 12, 2020 at 3:17 p.m.

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Quoting: justaBoss

First, Larsson is not worth $4,5M.

Second, Faksa is worth more than $2,75M.

Third, no, we're probably not going to find an agreement because we both overvalue our own assets,

I guess not. The Dallas fan mentioned in the Team Explanation thought $4.5M was reasonable for Larsson, that's the only reason I mentioned that number. And I looked through about 20 Dallas AGM's and half of them traded Faksa and the other half signed him for $2.5 - 3M so I just chose the median number.

Jun. 12, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.

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Supposedly these fans that have made those contracts are not aware of the fact that defensively good centers get paid a tad more than their point amount suggests. Bonino, Eller, Beagle etc... Faksa belongs to the club, and is younger than these comparables.

Even despite the fact Faksa has had a relatively poor season, when compared to two last.

Jun. 12, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.

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Sure, but you yourself have signed him for $3M in your AGMs, so my $2.75M should hardly be a point of contention.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1760608

And your 5 year term is $3.5M - basically 1 minimum wage player apart.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1754163

It's a strange nit to pick when none of us are actually privy the contract negotiations between the two parties.

Jun. 12, 2020 at 4:53 p.m.

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You're avoiding the question. Anyone can cherry pick successes. What are the odds?

you miss 100 % of the shots you don't take

Jun. 12, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.

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you miss 100 % of the shots you don't take

Still avoiding the question. If you don't know the answer you can just say so.

Jun. 12, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.

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Wouldn't give him much more than that.

Regardless, the trade doesn't work.

Jun. 12, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.

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