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My Take on the Avalanche Next season

Created by: Random2152
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 13, 2020
Published: Jun. 13, 2020
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Petry is a rental so he won't return crazy value but he is quite good so moving a long term piece that the Habs need for him should do it. Get a mid 2nd for your troubles (might be the blues pick instead but close enough I'd think).

The idea here is to be well set up to sign Makar (Subban contract or more I'd assume) and Landeskog (8aav?), prepare for young players to fill roles in the future (Byram, Timmins, etc.) while still contending this year.

I am not sure on value as I am unfamiliar with the team so let me know!
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,500,000
3$2,750,000
5$5,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,250,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Healthy, Scratch
1$775,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Petry, Jeff ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
MTL
  1. Graves, Ryan [RFA Rights]
2.
COL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
EDM
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$77,860,595$0$2,500,000$3,639,405
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Healthy, Scratch
$775,000$775,000

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Jun. 13, 2020 at 7:15 a.m.
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Ya, that doesnt get you Petry. The problem with trading Petry to address the left side is, it makes our RHD horribly, horribly worst. Add the fact that Petry has been one of the best RHD in the league over the last 3 seasons and it all comes to the conclusion that MTL cant move him unless a team gives up a significant return.

Trading him for an albeit younger defenceman, but a worst one, while giving up a pick, doesnt make sense.
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Jun. 13, 2020 at 7:36 a.m.
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Ya, that doesnt get you Petry. The problem with trading Petry to address the left side is, it makes our RHD horribly, horribly worst. Add the fact that Petry has been one of the best RHD in the league over the last 3 seasons and it all comes to the conclusion that MTL cant move him unless a team gives up a significant return.

Trading him for an albeit younger defenceman, but a worst one, while giving up a pick, doesnt make sense.


Did you not see what Taylor Hall just got traded for? I honestly do not see how anyone could possibly expect more than this in a rental trade. If anything this is a better return as this is the type of player you would want to draft with the pick you got instead.

Moving a young player who looks like a solid 2nd pair guy for 1 year of a #3 Dman doesn't make sense, hence the pick coming back. As I said in the desc I'd be more than happy to switch the pick to STL's but you really shouldn't expect more than this value wise.
Jun. 13, 2020 at 7:42 a.m.
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Edmonton says thank you, dances a jig, and runs off before the ink is dry.
Jun. 13, 2020 at 7:58 a.m.
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the first trade mtl gets screwed.

jost is the better option in the second trade.

trade zadorov. he's not a top 4 d
Jun. 13, 2020 at 8:08 a.m.
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Did you not see what Taylor Hall just got traded for? I honestly do not see how anyone could possibly expect more than this in a rental trade. If anything this is a better return as this is the type of player you would want to draft with the pick you got instead.

Moving a young player who looks like a solid 2nd pair guy for 1 year of a #3 Dman doesn't make sense, hence the pick coming back. As I said in the desc I'd be more than happy to switch the pick to STL's but you really shouldn't expect more than this value wise.


You say #3 dman about a guy who has been one of the top 15 RHD over the past 3 seasons. Petry has been MTLs best dman, dont know how much longer he has playing at that level but him and Weber have no one behind them to take thier spots, it's actually MTLs second biggest weakness.

I get that Graves is good but at this moment, Petry is better, and trading Petry would cause a bigger hole in MTLs defence then there currently is on the left side
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Jun. 13, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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I don’t care about the value, the habs aren’t trading Petry. Our RHD is terrible without him, and it would be absolutely idiotic to trade him for a LHD.
Jun. 13, 2020 at 9:07 a.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I don’t care about the value, the habs aren’t trading Petry. Our RHD is terrible without him, and it would be absolutely idiotic to trade him for a LHD.


Okay but your team isn't great and he doesn't line up with your prospects window.
Jun. 13, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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Okay but your team isn't great and he doesn't line up with your prospects window.


We can re-sign him. And a Jeff Petry who is a bit worse is certainly better than nothing.

By that logic STL should’ve traded Jay Bouwmeester because he didn’t Line up with their window. Just because players are a little older than the rest of the team doesn’t mean they can’t be effective.
Jun. 13, 2020 at 9:15 a.m.
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there are both really bad trades
Jun. 13, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Okay but your team isn't great and he doesn't line up with your prospects window.


Might as well not make the trade or else it would be like the Drouin/Sergachev trade all over again. Habs has been dealing with issues on the LHD since the loss of Sergachev (They have been playing LHD musical chair since then) Same thing applies w/ a potential Petry trade. If they trade Petry, it could improve their LHD but their RHD will be bad. At this point they are better off not making any blockbuster trades and solve their LHD through draft and development.

If the Habs are desperate in solving their LHD ASAP, they could ship one of their wingers (not good enough in terms of contending but it's better than losing a RHD/LHD) and/or picks for a LHD.
Jun. 13, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Caroline offered a first and bean fort petry at the trade deadline, why would the habs trade him for a guy who hasn’t really prove anything in the nhl except one season and they have to give a pick??
Jun. 15, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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there are both really bad trades


I'm sorry I just can't get this out of my head, exactly who do you think is losing these trades?
I think I know where you are going with the JP trade, but I am more curious on the Petry move.
Jun. 15, 2020 at 6:18 p.m.
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I'm sorry I just can't get this out of my head, exactly who do you think is losing these trades?
I think I know where you are going with the JP trade, but I am more curious on the Petry move.


Avs, jost is a better nhler and graves is a good top 4 dman who is younger and cost controlled, Petry is a soon to be ufa so it’s legit just burning assets when the right side with makar and Johnson is solid already.

That’s why they are terrible both are just wreckless asset management
Jun. 15, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
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Avs, jost is a better nhler and graves is a good top 4 dman who is younger and cost controlled, Petry is a soon to be ufa so it’s legit just burning assets when the right side with makar and Johnson is solid already.

That’s why they are terrible both are just wreckless asset management


Johnson is very overrated, and Petry is a #3 Dman. Graves has a high s% and his underlying suggest he may not be a true top 4 option long term, more a bottom 4 guy.
Even so I added the pick going back to the avs to balance out the control issue.


I think it is funny how looking at these threads how users will say the trade is horrible for the same reasons for both teams while saying one team fleeced the other.
Jun. 15, 2020 at 6:36 p.m.
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Johnson is very overrated, and Petry is a #3 Dman. Graves has a high s% and his underlying suggest he may not be a true top 4 option long term, more a bottom 4 guy.
Even so I added the pick going back to the avs to balance out the control issue.


I think it is funny how looking at these threads how users will say the trade is horrible for the same reasons for both teams while saying one team fleeced the other.


eJ is not horrible, right there this shows how your logic is flawed.

Petry is a 33 year old soon to he ufa Dman, he doesn’t fit the avs needs or age group.

It’s pretty simple, it’s a bad fit and bad use of assets. Graves and a 2nd being used on Petry doesn’t make sense...doesn’t address a need an all it does is burn draft capital unnecessarily
Jun. 16, 2020 at 3:55 a.m.
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eJ is not horrible, right there this shows how your logic is flawed.

Petry is a 33 year old soon to he ufa Dman, he doesn’t fit the avs needs or age group.

It’s pretty simple, it’s a bad fit and bad use of assets. Graves and a 2nd being used on Petry doesn’t make sense...doesn’t address a need an all it does is burn draft capital unnecessarily


Never said EJ was horrible, just overrated.
And you are getting the 2nd, not losing it.
 
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