Injuries do effect player value and everyone knows that. He suffered a major knee injury! How the heck do you think that doesn’t lower value? No one is going to trade a 1st for a guy who is 25, is a fringe top 6 winger (at best), isn’t some kind of corsi god, and suffered a major knee injury in a good draft. I’d pay the 1st for Kapanen, as I believe he is actually a player who has good capabilities of playing in the top 6 well, however Johnsson? Not a chance.

Did I say ignore the cap? No. Did I say the goaltending was good enough? No. Did I say that the team should not make a move as it relates to the cap? No.

Here is what I did say because you clearly didn't read it or didn't understand it....

No chance that Johnsson returns a 1st rounder at present. Tough injury and a bad season almost assures that to be the case.
Kapanen could likely return a lower 1st rounder as his skill set is known and his cap hit/term are manageable.
That being said... Everything below the top two lines in this presentation is small sample sizes, unknowns, near retirees and AHL'ers.
The D has not improved and you are left with a two line team and a little over 3 million dollars in cap space to build a contender with two key UFA's at seasons end?
No thanks.

In short... the trades you have suggested here are not realistic and contrary to the direction of the franchise and the team that you've left behind is a two line group with an unimproved D Core and a bottom six that is made up of a bunch of unproven NHL'ers, a single aging veteran who is almost 38 years old and a bunch of AHL'ers with two key UFA's leaving at seasons end and 3 million dollars to improve the team in a flat cap market.

Anything else genius? Or do you get it now?

Did I say ignore the cap? No. Did I say the goaltending was good enough? No. Did I say that the team should not make a move as it relates to the cap? No.

Here is what I did say because you clearly didn't read it or didn't understand it....

No chance that Johnsson returns a 1st rounder at present. Tough injury and a bad season almost assures that to be the case.
Kapanen could likely return a lower 1st rounder as his skill set is known and his cap hit/term are manageable.
That being said... Everything below the top two lines in this presentation is small sample sizes, unknowns, near retirees and AHL'ers.
The D has not improved and you are left with a two line team and a little over 3 million dollars in cap space to build a contender with two key UFA's at seasons end?
No thanks.

In short... the trades you have suggested here are not realistic and contrary to the direction of the franchise and the team that you've left behind is a two line group with an unimproved D Core and a bottom six that is made up of a bunch of unproven NHL'ers, a single aging veteran who is almost 38 years old and a bunch of AHL'ers with two key UFA's leaving at seasons end and 3 million dollars to improve the team in a flat cap market.

Anything else genius? Or do you get it now?

Johnsson is a 3rd liner on any team that doesn't spend 50% of their cap on 4 forwards and then is forced to plug other roster players into roles that they shouldn't be in because they have no other option. How you think a player who can only muster 3 even strength goals in half a season playing with elite forwards should be on a top line is beyond me. If Johnsson was a bonifide top 6 forward, his contract and term would be a good deal. However his output on the ice is that of a 3rd line player, and playing with other 3rd line players it would be even worse. Just because a player is playing on the top line doesn't mean he is a top line player.

26 isnt young

I bet you don't consider Hyman a top 6 forward either. Johnsson IS a top 6 player. Been playing there a few years. But I mean you know more than multiple nhl coaches and GMs i guess.

it's not old either. It's prime of career for most guys.

Johnsson hasn't even played "a few" years in the NHL. hes barely played 120 career games. His average time on ice is 15:45, 13:40, 11:42. not top 6 minutes.

30 career goals too and he will be 26 in november.

26 is not old. Played on elite Swedish team before coming to the NHL, and was nearly a point per game player in a defensive league. And he gets almost no powerplay time here. He's essentially tied for 6th most ice time among forwards this year. And again, his job isn't to get points. But last 2 years he's been on pace for over 20 goals and 50 points. That's...good? Certainly worth a contract that isn't amongst the 300 highest in the league.

He has never been on pace for 50 points. Ever

I mean, last year he was on pace for 48.3. That's pretty close.

You will not get a 1st in the deepest draft since 03 for Kapanen. Not unless it's picks like 25-35.

Are you seriously suggesting Johnsson is comparable to Hyman? And again, an NHL coach played him on the top 6 because he had to put someone on the roster in the top 6 because his options were limited after eating up 50% of the cap on 4 forwards. But I guess since you capitalized the word "is", then Johnsson must be a top 6 player. Hey, I guess that theory must be correct, as proven by my following statement. Oiler3535 "IS" seriously delusional in regards to Johnsson's value.

Lol. Not just a 1st. 15th overall plus a very good prospect.

Buehler?

Good to see kap got more. But with all the injuries I still see Johnson not being worth a 1st lul

I don't think we find out now. Not going to sell low.