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Created by: zk97
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2020
Published: Jun. 14, 2020
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Who adds?
Trades
TOR
  1. Pesce, Brett
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Or Hamilton. Whichever is fairer.
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2020
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2021
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21$81,500,000$81,296,866$0$0$203,134
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 3
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:01 p.m.
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Hamilton is fairer, more comparable (not minding contract differences). If not, CAR needs to add.
Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: leaflet
Hamilton is fairer, more comparable (not minding contract differences). If not, CAR needs to add.


What about Rielly for Hamilton with retention?
imo the only risk with taking Hamilton is you could lose him earlier than Rielly
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: leaflet
Hamilton is fairer, more comparable (not minding contract differences). If not, CAR needs to add.


Hamilton was the best defender in the league from a statistical point of view before he got injured. Leafs will need to add for sure.
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:14 p.m.
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There's no "Fair" here. Hamilton was the best D man in Hockey last year. Pesce doesn't hold the value Rielly does, because Rielly basically is as good offensively as Pesce is defensively, and defence isn't worth a lot in this league. The idea is nice, but there's no real package where this works without one team giving up WAY more than it should do.
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
What about Rielly for Hamilton with retention?
imo the only risk with taking Hamilton is you could lose him earlier than Rielly


I think it can make sense with some retention if we agree that: 1) Sandin will be ready to be top 4 LHD when Rielly reaches UFA; 2) Rielly will likely walk to Vancouver to replace Edler in 2 years anyway; 3) the swap fixes the "right-handedness" problem and improves balance, if only for a year; and 4) there are better chances of Hamilton re-signing in Toronto given that he is a local.
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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I am not a fan of Nylander on his off wing I just don't think him or Kap play it well enough to justify the switch. Rielly for Hamilton I don't hate the idea of on a quality basis and I don't think either team is far off. However, I think for leadership qualities I think removing Rielly or Hamilton would be a mistake (unless there is something we don't know about obviously).
Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Hamilton was the best defender in the league from a statistical point of view before he got injured. Leafs will need to add for sure.


That's 2 years of Rielly for one of Hamilton. That extra year is worth something.
Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:20 p.m.
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Slavin, Skjei, Gardiner, Fleury, Bean.
Why would Carolina want more LD?
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Slavin, Skjei, Gardiner, Fleury, Bean.
Why would Carolina want more LD?


They lack a 2LD? idk
Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
They lack a 2LD? idk


They have 2 2LD in Skjei and Gardiner, an elite 1LD in Slavin
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
They have 2 2LD in Skjei and Gardiner, an elite 1LD in Slavin


Ok well the point was to get TOR an RD.
Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:24 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Ok well the point was to get TOR an RD.


Actually they don't, because Carolina will likely reject this for that very reason
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:24 p.m.
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Forget the value of each player - why does Carolina move Hamilton for Rielly? They already have Slavin, Skjei and Gardnier on the left side.
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Actually they don't, because Carolina will likely reject this for that very reason


Ok, ok, we get the point. Like an old philosopher once said: on Armchair GM, everything is complicated by the needs of the other team involved in a trade.
Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.
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Quoting: leaflet
Ok, ok, we get the point. Like an old philosopher once said: on Armchair GM, everything is complicated by the needs of the other team involved in a trade.


To quote an actual philosopher "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it". It's a nice idea, but Carolina shoot this down quickly
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Jun. 14, 2020 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: leaflet
Ok, ok, we get the point. Like an old philosopher once said: on Armchair GM, everything is complicated by the needs of the other team involved in a trade.


who's the philosopher
Jun. 15, 2020 at 5:42 a.m.
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Yeah bro I’ll give u a $50, u give me a $20 or a $100 whichever is fairer
Jun. 15, 2020 at 9:08 a.m.
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Yeah bro I’ll give u a $50, u give me a $20 or a $100 whichever is fairer


This is 100% summing it up perfectly
Jun. 15, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
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Yeah bro I’ll give u a $50, u give me a $20 or a $100 whichever is fairer


I say I want 2 $20s and a $10

Hah!
Jun. 15, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
I say I want 2 $20s and a $10

Hah!


2 $20s and 2 $5s and its a deal
Jun. 15, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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2 $20s and 2 $5s and its a deal


ight
 
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