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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

Best I’d be willing to give for Murray would be a second round pick. Of course assuming that he is not apart of a larger deal.

I'd even say that an agreed upon contract would be required for that 2nd rounder as well. I.E...not just the rights to negotiate.

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Jun. 17, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

Best I’d be willing to give for Murray would be a second round pick. Of course assuming that he is not apart of a larger deal.

this is why you have no goalie.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.

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Quoting: pharrow

this is why you have no goalie.

Crafword is better than Matt Murray. Crow had a .917 save % last year behind a terrible defence, Murray had a .898 and PIT is one of the best teams in the league. And the best of being a hawks fan is I can say Murray's 2 cups don't matter because Crow also has 2 cups. The hakws won a cup with Niemi, whch kinda shows you don't need a superstar goalie to win. Yeah Crow's againg but you can't say we don't have a goalie.

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Jun. 17, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.

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Keep rodruguez and we'll keep regula and our 2nd round pick

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Quoting: pharrow

this is why you have no goalie.

I wonder how fast after a Murray to Chicago deal we would be seeing posts from Chicago fans about how Murray is one of the top 10 best goalies in the league. 3 minutes? 4?

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Jun. 17, 2020 at 12:59 p.m.

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Quoting: pharrow

this is why you have no goalie.

We're good with Crow, hands down a better goalie then Murray has been career wise and last season....899 SV % is pretty bad behind a much better team then Chicago and yet Crow put up .917

Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Wadejos123

...and PIT is one of the best teams in the league...

Now that is funny.

The Pens have 1 D that plays actual good D. 1

You guys really need to avoid any statement with "... in the league." in it.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.

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Quoting: Yojimbo

I wonder how fast after a Murray to Chicago deal we would be seeing posts from Chicago fans about how Murray is one of the top 10 best goalies in the league. 3 minutes? 4?

It's clearly under the 5 minute mark.

Quoting: Wadejos123

Just because the penguins are a good team doesn't mean the defense is good. They spent the whole year with out players.
Dumo, missed like 8-9 weeks, Marino missed time, Letang missed time.

Meanwhile JJ has played like every game and way to many as the 1LD! So has can't play in his own end Schultz.

So spare me the nonsense.
You can directly correlate Murray's hot start to JJ being a 3rd pairing guy not a 1st pairing guy.

But hey who's counting right?

Keep your 36 year old goalie. That's all we can manage to say over our laughter of you going another season without a goalie.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.

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Pens fans got mad real fast because hawks fans don't want Murray

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Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.

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Quoting: Yojimbo

I wonder how fast after a Murray to Chicago deal we would be seeing posts from Chicago fans about how Murray is one of the top 10 best goalies in the league. 3 minutes? 4?

LOL. I don't have a crystal ball, but if he plays all the time like he did in his two cups runs...of course. That would be a good trade. If he plays like he did last year...for the entire year...then a 2nd is a WAY too much. He's going to make bank because he's arbitration eligible and won 2 cups, but then he's a UFA. He for all practical reasons is a rental.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.

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Quoting: TheJonSnow

Pens fans got mad real fast because hawks fans don't want Murray

Yeah, that's why Blackhawk fan's player evaluations are so easy to deconstruct.... because Pens fans get mad.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:36 p.m.

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Yeah, that's why Blackhawk fan's player evaluations are so easy to deconstruct.... because Pens fans get mad.

60% of the time this logic makes sense all the time.... But what does make sense is....

Player 1 .917 SV% GAA 2.77 GSAA 9.14 HDGSAA 13.87
Player 2 .899 SV% GAA 2.87 GSAA ---11.57 HDGSAA 0.8

And Player 2 will likely cost more.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.

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Quoting: exo2769

60% of the time this logic makes sense all the time...

It stings the nostrils... but in a good way.

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Jun. 17, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.

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oilers take it

Jun. 17, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.

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Quoting: pharrow

It's clearly under the 5 minute mark.

lol pens fans get mad because the hakws don't want murray. Pens fans need to find another team to trade him to on this site

Just because the penguins are a good team doesn't mean the defense is good. They spent the whole year with out players.
Dumo, missed like 8-9 weeks, Marino missed time, Letang missed time.

Meanwhile JJ has played like every game and way to many as the 1LD! So has can't play in his own end Schultz.

So spare me the nonsense.
You can directly correlate Murray's hot start to JJ being a 3rd pairing guy not a 1st pairing guy.

But hey who's counting right?

Keep your 36 year old goalie. That's all we can manage to say over our laughter of you going another season without a goalie.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Now that is funny.

The Pens have 1 D that plays actual good D. 1

You guys really need to avoid any statement with "... in the league." in it.

the pens were 6th in goals against per game and Murray's .898 save % isn't the reason why

Jun. 17, 2020 at 3:16 p.m.

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Quoting: Wadejos123

the pens were 6th in goals against per game and Murray's .898 save % isn't the reason why

Maybe watch a game instead of just looking at stats and making assumptions. You know, assumptions.

Jun. 17, 2020 at 3:38 p.m.

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Maybe watch a game instead of just looking at stats and making assumptions. You know, assumptions.

its not an assumption. Murray was not good

Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.

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Quoting: Wadejos123

its not an assumption. Murray was not good

But I thought that you said that the Pens were 6th in goals against? You really need to pick a side on this...

Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.

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Quoting: Yojimbo

But I thought that you said that the Pens were 6th in goals against? You really need to pick a side on this...

Jarry and the pens D had a big part in that. As well as forewards who make it easier on the defence

Jun. 17, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Wadejos123

Jarry and the pens D had a big part in that. As well as forewards who make it easier on the defence

Yeah, and you were wrong, because as a couple people that actually watch Pens games pointed out to you, the Pens D didn't really play D. Hence the don't just look at stats, blah blah blah (my take on my posts)

Jun. 17, 2020 at 11:48 p.m.

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Quoting: Wadejos123

no penguins fan is mad.
We simply think your offer is a joke.

Don't worry, the penguins aren't trading Murray this season.
If they move a goalie it's to the expansion draft.

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