Thoughts @Wqrrior ?

At this point I would rather trade Strome for immediate help on defense rather than futures unless its an overpay in futures

Dont need either of these players IMO. We have lots of young centers and Branstromm and Chabot both play the left side

Wolanin IS immediate help on the blueline. He's been a top 4 option since he turned pro, but he's had some brutal luck so far. He got screwed by Guy Boucher in his rookie year, and he had a shoulder injury that kept him out this year.

After a second look I don't mind the Strome trade. Essentially giving up Wolannin and a second for an upgrade on Brown.

Still don't see the need for the Hannifin trade though

If Ottawa misses out on a top C in the draft, I think they'd be well served to add an established top six C, and I think Strome would be a great option.

Hanifin is just building on idea I saw earlier. I like Hanifin as a 2LD, and Brannstrom is more comfortable playing on the right side. Provides more balance to the Defense, and gives Brannstrom an experienced partner who can legitimately play top 4.

I'm not a fan of either team, but White would be the piece I think CGY would want over Tierney, although the two combined is ideal.

I do think Balcers is the type of prospect that is only valuable to OTT. Seems kinda like Motte on vancouver. I don't think anyone would really pay for Motte, but VAN values him highly... same with Balcers, who is overvalued by the organization and thus will stay there.

White, Wolanin/LaJoie and a 2nd would probably get it done.

Flames might be losing Brodie, hamonic and Gustafsson this summer so I doubt Hanifin is being traded

I mean, he's only played 45 games in the NHL. I'd rather land someone who's more proven. I'm not writing him off at all, as he could turn into a someone, but I just don't think he fits there yet

As a Hawks fan, I'm not super opposed to it, but there are some complications. The Hawks have a TON of Dmen right now. My last count was 10 that need ice time...I took Seeler out too... Not all of them are going to get it either and YES some of them can be sent to Rockford, but not all. Is Wolanin greater than Koekkoek? At this stage of the game, I don't really think so. I'd take him out and insert a different prospect even if the Hawks needed to add more...or send cap back, but that's easier said than done with Menlyk.

I keep bringing up Shane Pinto because he's about to see OTT draft (2) top 3 OA picks as forwards....in a system that's already stacked. I think he'll go 3 more years at UND and choose his own fate. Why not get value for him now?

What about Strome, Caggulia, and the CHI 4th....why Drake? Because he can help protect your 1st round pick investments while they develop.

For Brown, Pinto, and the OTT 2nd?

I think Hanifin would be a great add to this team. Tons of experience, fits the age group they are building around.

But that deal doesn't bring back anything that CGY wants or needs right now. Monahan - Backlund - Ryan - Jankowski/Dube/Bennett/Quine up the middle without trading out their #3 dman. Tierney is probably close to a wash with Ryan for the Flames lineup. Ryan is better defensively.

I can’t even begin to fathom that Calgary trade. Flames GM would have to be Peter Cerelli,

Sens would have to include and decent prospect with a ton of upside : either one of (Batherson, Formenton, Pinto, or Bernard Docker)
A 1st round pick ( sharks , islanders) and a 2nd round pick.

I like your thoughts here defiantly interesting. The OTT 2nd is 33OA so they will be able to get a first round level player with it. Either swap it for a different second or upgrade the CHI pick to a second this or next year

Not sure why Ottawa would want Hanifin but Calgary isn't moving him anyways, him and Andersson are their only defense with term atm

I dont want to trade LBrown or the 33OA. I dont think the value there for Strome.

Im very cool with the CGY trade

Wolanin offers no value to the Hawks, we have plenty of 2nd and 3rd line depth and prospects on defense.

Brown is okay, a bottom 6 role player.

For Strome you'll have to move the NYI pick plus Brown. If not the NYI pick then next year's 2021 1st round. Strome, who just turned 23, is a cost controlled 2C with plenty of upside. Hawks won't let him go for anything less then a mid 1st and role player or a late 1st and good prospect.

Problem is on the left, we have Keith, De haan, Maatta, Koekko....plus prospects in Carlsson, Beuadin, Vlasic....we don't need bottom 4 help on either side (right side is even more loaded with better prospects). We need a #1 LHD but outside of that Wolanin isn't valuable.

hawks decline

Hanifin is part of the future in Calgary, no dice.

wow OTT get ripped off big time, Strome is not even a 2C, hes a 3C FFS, he is inconsistent, never scored more than 51 points in a season, that is a horribly bad trade for OTT.

i could see OTT looking into hanifin, considering Branny is being groomed to play RD right now but OTT had Wolanin and Lajoie and Boro for 2 spots...not a good show of confidence for Wolanin or lajoie that sens trade for another LD and mane sens fans here say Wolanin is a top 4 D....

Strome is 3C, he is not worth any where neer a 1st round pick

Since leaving Arizona, Strome has been playing at a 20 goal, 60+ point pace. That's firmly 2C territory.

The idea with Hanifin trade would be that the Sens get a more established 2LD than Wolanin, which makes it easier for Brannstrom to find a top 4 RD spot. Sens wouldn't play Branny with Wolanin or Chabot, but the more defensively minded Hanifin makes more sense there. Trading Wolanin is tough, but Hanifin makes that loss palatable. I don't think Lajoie factors into any decision making for Ottawa. He's an AHL player at this point.

LMAO that's funny.

this season he dropped off big compared to the last one, 58 games with Chi in 2018-2019 he had 17g and 34A for 51 points, in 2019-2020 12g, 26A for 38 points on pace for 17g, 37A 54 points below average for a 2C, 1 season does not make a player or Dorion should sign Duclair to a 8x8 contract...... No way in hell is he worth 2 of OTT top prospects and 33OA. He regressed playing with better players this year than last year. How about OTT give Brown a chance before trading him.

i do not think the flames will trade Hanifin, Gio is 36 and not getting younger and hanifin is their 2nd best LD

whats funny is you thinking Dylan is worth a 1st +, then you must thinkCirelli, Anthony,w ho is a better player must be worth 2 1st and 1-2 A prospects.