oilers decline

Yeah they might. I think it's pretty close value wise.

if im the oilers and both marners and matthews salary was retained i would except

mcdavid is a generationial talent, a team would be stupid enought to trade him

The only way you're getting retention is if you take Neal out of the trade.

Leafs decline. McDavid is good but not that good.

Preposterous take

Lol, this trade is a huge win for the oilers. Marner and Matthews contribute more on the ice combined than McDavid does on his own. Now add in not one but two terrible contracts that you get free of and this is a clear cut win for Edmonton.

I get a kick out of how people think McDavid is worth any teams best two players. He is the best offensive player in the game no question but he alone is not worth any two elite players combined. That is just insanity to think. "But he scores 120 points a season" Cool, Matthews and Marner combined will score over 200 points a season more than once in their careers. Its just simple math.

If the oilers got rid of Neal, and Russel and then switch McDavid for Matthews, alone that is worth pondering and then you get Marner on top of that? Its a ridiculous trade. No one is worth that much.

No way that’s happening

Matthews is also a generational talent, albeit a lesser one than McDavid, adding another elite player to the mix while having to take on 2 bad contracts makes this deal utterly horrifying for TO. Just do the math, does McDavid's production match what Matthews and Marner do combined? Its not even close.

Do the math, how much at the very best will McDavid contribute, how much at the very best will Marner and Matthews contribute. McDavid is the best but he is certainly not worth two elite players.

Thats not really the math. McDavid gives the extra value of opening up that winger slot and you have to calculate the value of the open spot as well. The problem with the trade however is that the Leafs are taking all kinds of cap back so they cant fill that winger spot and take advantage of McDavid. If the Leafs wernt taking the bad contracts with McDavid, this is a trade that could get done but with the bad contracts of Neal and Russell coming the other way it simply isn't worthwhile for the Leafs.

Matthews being a generational talent is debatable

Career high: 80 points. No debate.

seems like Matthews lives rent free in a few cities in NA

They said that about Gretzky, and he is the best player ever IMO.

oh my

Its simple math to wildly project numbers they haven't come close to obtaining?

its a small point, but someone will fill marners spot on the leafs. so its mcdavid plus that player and the long term cap space and who is acquired with that = marner and matthews

Points doesn't make a player a generational talent.

OV hasn't cracked 90 points in like 10 years.
Does that mean he's not a generational talent?
He's probably going to hold the goal record.
His odds of cracking 90 points while doing it remains low.

Facts remain.
McDavid 351 games 162 goals.
Matthews 282 games 158 goals.
70 more games..... 4 more goals.

Hard to argue that Matthews isn't a generational talent.

If you want to use Ovi as a Generational Goal Scorer yardstick, his first 4 seasons looked like this:

81, 52-54-106
82, 46-46-92
82, 65-47-112
79, 56-54-110

Matthews isn't even in the same zip code. He's an elite goal scorer but not a generational player.

82, 40-29-69
62, 34-29-63
68, 37-36-73
70, 47-33-80

Terrible trade for the Leafs and no chance they are trading Marner and Matthews. Marner is going to go down in history as one of the greatest Leafs of all time. McDavid will be comming to Leafs for free as soon as hits UFA as he is being totally wasted in Edmonton and getting tired of all the losing and excuses by the Edmonton management team which is full of incompetent individuals who were part of the NHL oldboys club and never get fired for their inabilities.

If Marner was reasonably priced I might consider if I'm the EDM GM, but Id rather have the best player in the world at 12.5 and 10 mill to work with around him, than 22 mill tied up to two really good players