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Created by: OutCold13
Team: 2020-21 Anaheim Ducks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 18, 2020
Published: Jun. 18, 2020
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Trying to learn something about a team I know very little about. Testing some trades. I am probably off on trade value and i might not be making teams any better but this is all about learning about the ducks
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,300,000
2$1,750,000
2$1,250,000
2$850,000
2$1,250,000
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MIN
  1. Larsson, Jacob
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (ANA)
Buyouts
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$73,612,583$0$850,000$7,887,417
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,463,139$2,463,139
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
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UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
G
UFA - 7
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$2,602,778$2,602,778
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
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$1,133,333$1,133,333
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 18, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.
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This doesn't make sense for the ducks. Aren't they heading towards a rebuilding direction? I mean I think the Henrique deal was meh, but why would they get another top 4 d-man?
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 9:51 p.m.
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Why not just try and make a deal around Dumba for Henrique instead of taking on Okposso's contract? I really don't see the Ducks as being interested in Dumba.
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 9:51 p.m.
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double post*
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Quoting: wabit
Why not just try and make a deal around Dumba for Henrique instead of taking on Okposso's contract? I really don't see the Ducks as being interested in Dumba.


You can say that again.
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Canucks_Fan69
This doesn't make sense for the ducks. Aren't they heading towards a rebuilding direction? I mean I think the Henrique deal was meh, but why would they get another top 4 d-man?


Just a learning exercise for me so it probably is dumb. I figure Dumba is young enough to be their brightside #1 for the next 8 years.
Jun. 18, 2020 at 9:54 p.m.
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Quoting: wabit
Why not just try and make a deal around Dumba for Henrique instead of taking on Okposso's contract? I really don't see the Ducks as being interested in Dumba.


As a Wild fan, do you really want Dumba for Henrique? Henrique is a little old for my interest.
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You can say that again.


I agree taking the Okposo deal probably isn't ideal for Ducks, I just think since henrique is 30 Wild may not have interest in him.
Jun. 18, 2020 at 10:01 p.m.
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Okposo has one of the five worst contracts in the NHL. Buffalo would have to pay to get rid of it, and Henrique >>> Mittelstadt.

@wabit is right that there is a simpler and more direct deal here. It depends whether you want Henrique or Steel.

Henrique is a valuable player for us because as Getzlaf ages out (he has one year left and might re-up for one more season after that), he will be our only experienced top-9 centerman. His value is the Pittsburgh pick plus a roster player. Dumba's is similar, but we wouldn't trade him without getting more than just a first-class RD, so I think a deal structured around that would be hard to create.

Sam Steel is another matter. Dobber rates Steel precisely the same as Ryan Donato and on a par, more or less, with Luke Kunin, although both are wings and not a center per se. I feel in my bones he's comparable to Eriksson Ek but I may be optimistic. Steel, Larsson and our 2020 second (36th overall) seems a little rich for Dumba, but maybe not. Steel, Larsson and our 2021 second would be an automatic yes from me.

Give that some thought and of course, I'd love to have the input of @TanSor and @MNBassman
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 10:03 p.m.
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I agree taking the Okposo deal probably isn't ideal for Ducks, I just think since henrique is 30 Wild may not have interest in him.


My comment was teasing him because he hit the Send button twice.
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 10:06 p.m.
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I agree taking the Okposo deal probably isn't ideal for Ducks, I just think since henrique is 30 Wild may not have interest in him.


Yeah, but he's signed for four more years, which precludes having to worry about spending assets on someone who won't be around for long. He's been one of the top scorers on our team since joining us, but of course with our anemic offense that isn't saying much. But he's very good at both ends, and can play LW if necessary, if that counts for anything. He would certainly solve your #2 C problem for the length of his contract, which to me is just the right length.
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 10:10 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Okposo has one of the five worst contracts in the NHL. Buffalo would have to pay to get rid of it, and Henrique >>> Mittelstadt.

@wabit is right that there is a simpler and more direct deal here. It depends whether you want Henrique or Steel.

Henrique is a valuable player for us because as Getzlaf ages out (he has one year left and might re-up for one more season after that), he will be our only experienced top-9 centerman. His value is the Pittsburgh pick plus a roster player. Dumba's is similar, but we wouldn't trade him without getting more than just a first-class RD, so I think a deal structured around that would be hard to create.

Sam Steel is another matter. Dobber rates Steel precisely the same as Ryan Donato and on a par, more or less, with Luke Kunin, although both are wings and not a center per se. I feel in my bones he's comparable to Eriksson Ek but I may be optimistic. Steel, Larsson and our 2020 second (36th overall) seems a little rich for Dumba, but maybe not. Steel, Larsson and our 2021 second would be an automatic yes from me.

Give that some thought and of course, I'd love to have the input of @TanSor and @MNBassman


If he is Eriksson Ek 2.0 or the like I would be very interested in this trade
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Okposo has one of the five worst contracts in the NHL. Buffalo would have to pay to get rid of it, and Henrique >>> Mittelstadt.

@wabit is right that there is a simpler and more direct deal here. It depends whether you want Henrique or Steel.

Henrique is a valuable player for us because as Getzlaf ages out (he has one year left and might re-up for one more season after that), he will be our only experienced top-9 centerman. His value is the Pittsburgh pick plus a roster player. Dumba's is similar, but we wouldn't trade him without getting more than just a first-class RD, so I think a deal structured around that would be hard to create.

Sam Steel is another matter. Dobber rates Steel precisely the same as Ryan Donato and on a par, more or less, with Luke Kunin, although both are wings and not a center per se. I feel in my bones he's comparable to Eriksson Ek but I may be optimistic. Steel, Larsson and our 2020 second (36th overall) seems a little rich for Dumba, but maybe not. Steel, Larsson and our 2021 second would be an automatic yes from me.

Give that some thought and of course, I'd love to have the input of @TanSor and @MNBassman


I like Henrique the player but I don't think he's who we should be considering if we move one of our D. I like him for a team like Winnipeg though.

As for Steel he's intriguing. I had my eye on him a couple years ago but Ducks fans were extremely high on him. I think an Ek/Kunin level player is where his potential lies as you indicated. I don't love trading Dumba to get him (I think we could do better) but Dumba's value is at an all-time low right now. I guess I don't have a lot to add, but I'm just not sure the Ducks should be looking to add a player like Dumba yet. I think they should either take Drysdale if he's available or wait for the supremely talented D class of 2021
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Paul13
As a Wild fan, do you really want Dumba for Henrique? Henrique is a little old for my interest.


Depends on the rest of the deal. I do think Henrique is a much better option than Domi, a Strome, etc that are being tossed around in trade. I don't care about the age so much, because he plays a solid 2-way game. Even if he falls off some near the end he'll be an expensive 2-way 3C and gives MN time to find a top-6 C to go with JEE. It wouldn't be the most exciting hockey to watch but it will win a lot of games and should be decent in the Playoffs. Plus it'll give the kids a veteran center to play with while they grow their games more.

Spurgeon is making $7.5m and has an unmovable contract. I'd rather trade Dumba and re-sign Brodin than keep Dumba and lose/trade Brodin.

Number these however you like (the wings are pretty interchangeable too):
Parise/Staal/Fiala
Kaprizov/Henrique/Zucc
Foligno/JEE/Kunin
Greenway/Strum/Hartman (Donato)
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
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Quoting: wabit
Depends on the rest of the deal. I do think Henrique is a much better option than Domi, a Strome, etc that are being tossed around in trade. I don't care about the age so much, because he plays a solid 2-way game. Even if he falls off some near the end he'll be an expensive 2-way 3C and gives MN time to find a top-6 C to go with JEE. It wouldn't be the most exciting hockey to watch but it will win a lot of games and should be decent in the Playoffs. Plus it'll give the kids a veteran center to play with while they grow their games more.

Spurgeon is making $7.5m and has an unmovable contract. I'd rather trade Dumba and re-sign Brodin than keep Dumba and lose/trade Brodin.

Number these however you like (the wings are pretty interchangeable too):
Parise/Staal/Fiala
Kaprizov/Henrique/Zucc
Foligno/JEE/Kunin
Greenway/Strum/Hartman (Donato)


You are as usual, good with your analysis. I do worry if Wild got a guy like henrique then they kinda end up where they started, playoff team not a cup team.
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Jun. 18, 2020 at 11:03 p.m.
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You are as usual, good with your analysis. I do worry if Wild got a guy like henrique then they kinda end up where they started, playoff team not a cup team.


This is why I'd rather go for a young guy with potential over a Henrique. We've tried trading for the older guy (see: Hanzal, Pominville, Moulson to a degree) and look where it's gotten us. I'm not sure Domi or Strome are the answer, but if Cirelli is available or by some miracle Guerin can land us a better center then that's what we should hold out for. Patience is key
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Jun. 19, 2020 at 12:36 a.m.
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Quoting: TanSor
This is why I'd rather go for a young guy with potential over a Henrique. We've tried trading for the older guy (see: Hanzal, Pominville, Moulson to a degree) and look where it's gotten us. I'm not sure Domi or Strome are the answer, but if Cirelli is available or by some miracle Guerin can land us a better center then that's what we should hold out for. Patience is key


We've been holding out for 20 years now. How many trades were close but MN got outbid over those years? I agree there are better targets for MN to go after than Henrique, but he's not a bad plan B option to have. I mean he usually good for 20+ goals a year and has been stuck on pretty meh teams for most of his career. Plus he doesn't have an albatross of a contract like signing a UFA center (say RNH in a year) is going to get on the open market.

Hanzal and Moulson were end of year rentals, Pommer was a rental+1. Two of them weren't re-signed and one was. If they were worth the trade value or not is a different question, but it isn't the same as Dumba for Henrique with both of them having decent term left.

Quoting: Paul13
You are as usual, good with your analysis. I do worry if Wild got a guy like henrique then they kinda end up where they started, playoff team not a cup team.


STL wasn't a Cup team either, heck they were barely a Playoff team last year.
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