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One of the worst trade proposals on this website

Created by: Sabres923
Initial Creation Date: Jun 19, 2020
Published: Jun 19, 2020 at 6:08
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Trades
BUF
  1. Aho, Sebastian
  2. Kochetkov, Pyotr [Reserve List]
  3. Slavin, Jaccob
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (BUF)
CAR
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Dahlin, Rasmus
  3. Cozens, Dylan
  4. Mittelstadt, Casey
  5. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
Additional Details:
Trade breakdown:
Sabres trade a top 10 scoring center
A defenseman that is 2nd all time by points by a teenage defenseman with 84.
Their 3 best prospects.
For Aho who is significantly worse than Eichel. Slavin who’s good, but Dahlin’s potential is a lot higher. A goalie prospect that Carolina picked, that was originally a Sabres draft pick that was apart of the Jeff Skinner trade. And their own 2020 3rd round pick from the Jeff Skinner trade.
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Ville Leino: $0
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Eric Staal: $1,625,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$82,050,667$0$4,257,500-$550,667
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
$4,500,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
BUF
Frolík, Michael
$4,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Simmonds, Wayne
$2,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Sobotka, Vladimír
$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
BUF
Larsson, Johan
$1,550,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$3,650,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Vesey, Jimmy
$2,275,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$767,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
$8,454,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
BUF
Hunwick, Matt
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$1,325,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Pilut, Lawrence
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,387,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
CAR
Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 6
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Jun 19, 2020 at 6:08
#1
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Jun 19, 2020 at 6:13
#2
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Yeah, that might be the worst. It's worse than many fake trolling one for one offers for Eichel which is an accomplishment...
Jun 19, 2020 at 6:16
#3
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Quoting: Taxtime
Yeah, that might be the worst. It's worse than many fake trolling one for one offers for Eichel which is an accomplishment...[/quote
I’m not sure why people are making trades for Dahlin. I get Eichel, even though he hasn’t said anything about being wanted traded.
Jun 19, 2020 at 7:25
#4
Canes Baby
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Idk how you can say Dahlins potential is 'much higher' when Slavin is already one of the better dmen in the league.
Jun 19, 2020 at 7:45
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Quoting: jslongo
Idk how you can say Dahlins potential is 'much higher' when Slavin is already one of the better dmen in the league.



Maybe because Dahlin has the potential to be the best d-man in hockey... just saying
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Jun 19, 2020 at 7:46
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Quoting: jslongo
Idk how you can say Dahlins potential is 'much higher' when Slavin is already one of the better dmen in the league.


Because he has potential to be as good defensively and produce more on offense. He had more points in the league on a bad Buffalo team at 18 in his rookie year than Slavins career high
Jun 19, 2020 at 7:46
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Terry_AkiSauce
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Maybe because Dahlin has the potential to be the best d-man in hockey... just saying


Canes fans will only think hes the best if he plays for them
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:19
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Quoting: jslongo
Idk how you can say Dahlins potential is 'much higher' when Slavin is already one of the better dmen in the league.


You still say that this is fair trade. Why are all Carolina fans on this site such Homers?
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:22
#9
Canes Baby
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
You still say that this is fair trade. Why are all Carolina fans on this site such Homers?


When did I say that?
Quoting: SalamiCheese
You still say that this is fair trade. Why are all Carolina fans on this site such Homers?


????

When did I say that haha

Seems like it must be the sabres fans that are delusional wink
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:23
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Canes fans will only think hes the best if he plays for them


Yeah lets sh*t on fan bases. You are the coolest guy on this site!
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:25
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Quoting: jslongo
When did I say that?

????

When did I say that haha

Seems like it must be the sabres fans that are delusional wink


Even if Slavin is now better than Dahlin, that I do not deny, although Slavin simply does not have such an attacking potential and he is simply one of the best defensive defenders in the league, Dahlin is already gaining a lot of points and progressing every day, and he is only 20 years old.

Eichel > Aho for me, while we still add our best prospect in Cozens and our best prospect to goalie, and Mittelstadt, who is not even completely bust, although it doesn’t matter.

You are strange guys who overestimate their players too much, no offense.
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:29
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Even if Slavin is now better than Dahlin, that I do not deny, although Slavin simply does not have such an attacking potential and he is simply one of the best defensive defenders in the league, Dahlin is already gaining a lot of points and progressing every day, and he is only 20 years old.

Eichel > Aho for me, while we still add our best prospect in Cozens and our best prospect to goalie, and Mittelstadt, who is not even completely bust, although it doesn’t matter.

You are strange guys who overestimate their players too much, no offense.


Do you speak a different language? Ill ask again, when did I ever say this trade was fair?
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:33
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Quoting: jslongo
Do you speak a different language? Ill ask again, when did I ever say this trade was fair?


Well you always do it
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:34
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Well you always do it


hahahah

I am being trolled..... again.

Tag me in the last time ive done it ( not going to happen )
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:40
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Quoting: jslongo
hahahah

I am being trolled..... again.

Tag me in the last time ive done it ( not going to happen )


Or was it your friend Caniac? Huh?
Jun 19, 2020 at 8:56
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Why repost the trade if it was so bad?
Jun 19, 2020 at 9:18
#17
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Analytically

Aho > Eichel

Slavin is a top 5 D man

This isn't as bad as you make it out to be.
Jun 19, 2020 at 10:53
#18
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Or was it your friend Caniac? Huh?


Quoting: Caniac2000
Analytically

Aho > Eichel

Slavin is a top 5 D man

This isn't as bad as you make it out to be.


Apparently so 😂
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Jun 19, 2020 at 11:15
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Quoting: justaBoss
Apparently so 😂


Yeap, this is guy homer. smile
Jun 19, 2020 at 11:31
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Yeap, this is guy homer. smile


Wdym? I'm not saying it's fair, I'm just saying there's been FAR worse on this website
Jun 19, 2020 at 12:01
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Quoting: justaBoss
Apparently so 😂


Quoting: justaBoss
Apparently so 😂


Quoting: Caniac2000
Analytically

Aho > Eichel

Slavin is a top 5 D man

This isn't as bad as you make it out to be.


No one is taking Aho over Eichel. Wdym this trade is horrible Sabres lose all their best prospects and a defenseman that is breaking Bobby Orr’s records.
Jun 19, 2020 at 12:05
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Quoting: Sabres923
No one is taking Aho over Eichel. Wdym this trade is horrible Sabres lose all their best prospects and a defenseman that is breaking Bobby Orr’s records.


Why'd ya tag me to this? I agree with you. That trade sucks.
Jun 19, 2020 at 12:08
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Miss the Thrashers
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Quoting: Sabres923
No one is taking Aho over Eichel. Wdym this trade is horrible Sabres lose all their best prospects and a defenseman that is breaking Bobby Orr’s records.


Analytically, Aho is better than Eichel and it's not particularly close. Dahlin is great, but there's genuine questions whether he will EVER reach Slavin's level, plus Slavin's contract is gonna be much better when Dahlin comes off his ELC. I'm not saying the trade is fair, but you Sabres fans need to lose your fandom when looking at trades like this. Is it bad? Yeah, but there's EASILY far worse on this site
Jun 19, 2020 at 12:09
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Analytically, Aho is better than Eichel and it's not particularly close. Dahlin is great, but there's genuine questions whether he will EVER reach Slavin's level, plus Slavin's contract is gonna be much better when Dahlin comes off his ELC. I'm not saying the trade is fair, but you Sabres fans need to lose your fandom when looking at trades like this. Is it bad? Yeah, but there's EASILY far worse on this site

Read the trade breakdown.
Jun 19, 2020 at 12:12
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Quoting: Sabres923
Read the trade breakdown.


I did, Dahlin's potential isn't higher than Slavin's. Dahlin will be a great OFD, but his defensive game will never hold a candle to Slavins, which makes slavin the better DEFENCEman. Aho, stilll, holds better underlying numbers than Eichel. Kochetkov is a great prospect, and UPL isn't a major upgrade, however I'll concede is an upgrade. Mittlestadt really holds no value right now, and Couzens really shouldn't be in the trade at all. However, my point still stands, this isn't as bad as you make it out to be.
 
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