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Created by: Bf3351
Initial Creation Date: Jun 20, 2020
Published: Jun 20 at 3:17
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dahlin, Rasmus8$8,000,000
Kahun, Dominik3$2,000,000
Reinhart, Sam7$5,750,000
Olofsson, Victor5$5,000,000
Jokiharju, Henri3$1,500,000
Lazar, Curtis3$1,200,000
Mittelstadt, Casey2$900,000
Montour, Brandon5$3,500,000
Pilut, Lawrence2$750,000
Thompson, Tage2$750,000
Asplund, Rasmus2$800,000
Fitzgerald, Casey2$800,000
Domi, Max7$5,500,000
Walker, Sean4$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brodin, Jonas7$5,000,000
Iafallo, Alex5$3,750,000
Thompson, Nate1$750,000
Holtby, Braden3$7,000,000
Trades
BUF
    ANA
    1. Okposo, Kyle
    Additional Details:
    CBO 2020
    BUF
    1. Kapanen, Kasperi
    TOR
    1. Montour, Brandon
    BUF
    1. 2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (DAL)
    DAL
    1. Miller, Colin
    BUF
    1. Walker, Sean [RFA Rights]
    Additional Details:
    Sign and Trade: Iafallo 3.75M x 5 years.
    LAK
    1. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
    BUF
    1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
    MTL
    1. Mittelstadt, Casey
    2. Ruotsalainen, Arttu
    3. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
    Buyouts
    • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
    • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    DAL
    2021
    DAL
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    2022
    BUF
    BUF
    DAL
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$84,500,000$81,503,334$0$1,065,000$2,996,666

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    BUF
    Skinner, Jeff
    $9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    $10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    BUF
    Reinhart, Sam
    $5,750,000
    RW, C
    RFA
    Iafallo, Alex
    $3,750,000
    LW, C
    UFA
    Domi, Max
    $5,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Olofsson, Victor
    $5,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    BUF
    Kahun, Dominik
    $2,000,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA
    BUF
    Cozens, Dylan
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    $3,200,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Asplund, Rasmus
    $800,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    Thompson, Nate
    $750,000
    C
    UFA
    BUF
    Lazar, Curtis
    $1,200,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    BUF
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    $8,000,000
    LD
    RFA
    BUF
    Jokiharju, Henri
    $1,500,000
    RD
    RFA
    Holtby, Braden
    $7,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Brodin, Jonas
    $5,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    BUF
    Ristolainen, Rasmus
    $5,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
    $778,333
    G
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Samuelsson, Mattias
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Walker, Sean
    $2,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    BUF
    Thompson, Tage
    $750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Pekar, Matej
    $764,167
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Pilut, Lawrence
    $750,000
    LD
    RFA

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Iafallo, A.
    Eichel, J.
    Reinhart, S.
    Dahlin, R.
    Olofsson, V.
    Power Play 2
    Domi, M.
    Cozens, D.
    Kapanen, K.
    Skinner, J.
    Ristolainen, R.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Eichel, J.
    Reinhart, S.
    Dahlin, R.
    Jokiharju, H.
    Penalty Kill 2
    Domi, M.
    Iafallo, A.
    Brodin, J.
    Ristolainen, R.

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    Jun 20 at 5:53
    #151
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    Tom Wilson of ACGM
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    Quoting: DaveAyersStan
    Kapanen was 35th in RW scoring this year while never having consistent line mates because of injuries higher in the lineup but he would play 3rd line for 20 teams putting him at about 80th best RW in the NHL. Sure thing.


    There are only 279 Top 9 NHL players(or playing in the top 9 anyway) so 80th in Right Wingers isn't very good at all...
    Jun 20 at 5:58
    #152
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    Quoting: Bf3351
    There are only 279 Top 9 NHL players(or playing in the top 9 anyway) so 80th in Right Wingers isn't very good at all...


    I’m saying that you seem to think that’s where Kapanen is when in reality he’s around 40th best RW in the NHL
    Jun 20 at 6:14
    #153
    Thread Starter
    Tom Wilson of ACGM
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    Quoting: DaveAyersStan
    I’m saying that you seem to think that’s where Kapanen is when in reality he’s around 40th best RW in the NHL


    So assuming you think he's a top 6 winger, like most Leafs fans. Let's do the numbers again. There are 62 top 6 right wingers in the league. If he's #40 like you say he is, that really isn't very good either.
    Jun 20 at 6:37
    #154
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    Quoting: Bf3351
    So assuming you think he's a top 6 winger, like most Leafs fans. Let's do the numbers again. There are 62 top 6 right wingers in the league. If he's #40 like you say he is, that really isn't very good either.


    You’re goalposts for good keep on moving I’m not saying Kapanen is a top line winger but he is easily a top 6 RW
    Jun 20 at 7:38
    #155
    Joined: Aug 2017
    Posts: 1,717
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    yeah, that's bad for Toronto.


    Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
    Leafs decline and block Adams number. I also think Adam is incapable in attempting to fleece the Leafs.


    Quoting: Bf3351
    Right because Kapanen, a 30-40 point 3rd line winger is more valuable than a top 4 two way defenseman with good defensive ability which is exactly the kind of dman the Leafs need...

    I know you are a Leafs fan and you like to overvalue your players, it's just what you guys do and all you know but this is fair value...


    Quoting: Bf3351
    He's a top 6 winger who could have gotten 50 points this year and most likely will next year as well as a top 4 young dman...


    Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
    Montour is not the defensemen the Leafs need. Maybe for a Johnsson, but if we are trading Kappy, I would rather use him for a Manson.


    Quoting: Wqrrior
    why? TOR is getting the better player.


    Quoting: Wqrrior
    Kapanen has quickly become this website's most overrated player... overtaking Athanasiou and Kase from pre-trade deadline.


    Quoting: Wqrrior
    meh it should still be top 3 protected


    Quoting: Bf3351
    And Manson is a HUGE upgrade over Montour?


    Quoting: junoandkeisha
    Johnnson instead of Kapanen and it is a deal


    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    this is hilarious coming from you


    Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
    Yes.


    Quoting: Bf3351
    I wouldn't make the trade then.


    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    As long as Jokiharju, Pesce and Dylan Strome exist, Kapanen wont crack the top 3 over rated players on this site.


    Quoting: Bf3351
    Please elaborate.


    Quoting: aadoyle
    The issue with Montour is buffalo fans cannot decide what he is. Some say he is top 2, some say hes a bottom pairing, and a good amount think trading for him was a mistake. All i can say is hes an option for us to consider


    Quoting: Bf3351
    That's because Buffalo has Risto, Joki, Miller, and him. Those are all top 4 defenders.


    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Montour is 'ok'. He's an alright number 4 guy who is relatively useful in a few situations. He cant carry a pairing, he cant run either special team but he's fine with a decent partner.
    Hes basically a worse version of Justin Holl at this point with significantly better PR.


    Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
    Would you trade Johansson for Cody Ceci?


    Quoting: Wqrrior
    leafs fans are delusional in regards to kapanen. i wouldn't drop a 2nd for him. his value is taken to an extreme when in reality he's a generic third liner with some fringe 2nd line capability.

    pesce rightfully gets a boost because his contract is so appealing... and he's a top 3 defenseman on any team in the league. jokiharju is mostly just in the boat of "whoa we fleeced chicago", and strome... maybe, but he's also a center in a desirable position and age


    Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
    If Kapanen did not play the way he did in the second half of the season, arguably when Clifford joined the Leafs, we wouldn't be praising him this hard. In the beginning of the season, many Leaf fans were contemplating on whether we should trade Kappy after his horrible start (the stick toss incident against the Habs). However, to me, I feel like we are starting to get Kadri vibes with him.


    Kapanen = 34 even-strength points this year (68 games)
    Reinhart = 38 even-strength points this year (69 games)

    Even if we ignore the fact that Reinhart got roughly FIVE extra minutes in ice-time per game.
    The ONLY thing separating their point totals is that Reinhart gets power-play time and Kapanen doesn't.
    Kapanen does kill penalties like a beast though (he also got all his points on Kerfoots line this year - not Eichels line).

    The "Kapanen is a 30-40 point 3rd liner" comments are kind of ridiculous.
    He projects to 60-70 points per 82 games on a #1 PP unit (and he would be on Buffalo's).
    His stats were even better last year too.

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    On an unrelated note ... most of the above signings are unrealistic ... Skinner got $9,000,000 x 8 years.
    How can Buffalo get 4 (arguably better) forwards with better production to all sign for $5,500,000 or less?
    Come on now.
    Jun 20 at 8:27
    #156
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    Tom Wilson of ACGM
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    Quoting: drewjenks
    Kapanen = 34 even-strength points this year (68 games)
    Reinhart = 38 even-strength points this year (69 games)

    Even if we ignore the fact that Reinhart got roughly FIVE extra minutes in ice-time per game.
    The ONLY thing separating their point totals is that Reinhart gets power-play time and Kapanen doesn't.
    Kapanen does kill penalties like a beast though (he also got all his points on Kerfoots line this year - not Eichels line).

    The "Kapanen is a 30-40 point 3rd liner" comments are kind of ridiculous.
    He projects to 60-70 points per 82 games on a #1 PP unit (and he would be on Buffalo's).
    His stats were even better last year too.

    ----------------------------------------------------------

    On an unrelated note ... most of the above signings are unrealistic ... Skinner got $9,000,000 x 8 years.
    How can Buffalo get 4 (arguably better) forwards with better production to all sign for $5,500,000 or less?
    Come on now.


    Bad argument, Reinhart had a bad year. Try comparing the year before and I'll listen.
    Jun 20 at 8:38
    #157
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    Quoting: Bf3351
    Bad argument, Reinhart had a bad year. Try comparing the year before and I'll listen.


    Pretty similar situation.

    Show the numbers if you want.
     
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