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Marner To Dallas

Created by: AnalyticsGeek
Team: 2021-22 Dallas Stars
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2020
Published: Jun. 21, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I understand that this trade heavily favours Dallas in terms of player value, but the benefit of making this exchange is so the Leafs can clear like 6 million in cap space. That gives them enough money to sign Mikheyev, Dermott as well as another free agent like DeMelo.

Their team could look like:

Robertson (.925) - Tavares (11) - Nylander (6.9)
Johnsson (3.4) - Matthews (11.7) - Kapanen (3.2)
Mikheyev (2) - Kerfoot (3.5) - Hyman (2.25)
Engvall (1.25) - Gauthier (.8) - Spezza (.8)

Muzzin (5.6) - Holl (2)
Rielly (5) - Klingberg (4.25)
Dermott (2) - DeMelo (4)

Andersen (5)
Campbell (1.35)

Petan (.775)
Marincin (.7)

Total Cap Hit: 78.4 / 81.5 Million
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$9,000,000
2$4,500,000
2$2,250,000
2$2,500,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,500,000
3$950,000
2$900,000
2$2,500,000
6$3,850,000
2$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Schneider, Braden
3$894,166
Trades
1.
DAL
    Seattle Expansion Draft
    VGK
    1. Pavelski, Joe
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
    2.
    DAL
    1. DeSmith, Casey
    PIT
    1. Dickinson, Jason [RFA Rights]
    3.
    DAL
    1. Marner, Mitchell ($1,893,000 retained)
    TOR
    1. Klingberg, John
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
    Logo of the DAL
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    2021
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    2022
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the DAL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,000,000$83,194,572$927,073$1,045,000-$194,572

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Benn, Jamie
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Seguin, Tyler
    $9,850,000$9,850,000
    C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Radulov, Alexander
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Hintz, Roope
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Dellandrea, Ty
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Marner, Mitchell
    $9,010,000$9,010,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Robertson, Jason
    $795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Gurianov, Denis
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Clifford, Kyle
    $950,000$950,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Kühnhackl, Tom
    $900,000$900,000
    RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Faksa, Radek
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    Ryan, Derek
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Lindell, Esa
    $5,800,000$5,800,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Heiskanen, Miro
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Bishop, Ben
    $4,916,667$4,916,667
    G
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    McCabe, Jake
    $3,850,000$3,850,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Johns, Stephen
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RD
    UFA
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Waivers ExemptHarley, Thomas
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LD
    RFA - 3
    Hjalmarsson, Niklas
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    DeSmith, Casey
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Tufte, Riley
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Schneider, Braden
    $894,166$894,166
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    Gardner, Rhett
    $900,000$900,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2

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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:21 p.m.
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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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    I'll tell you what's not gonna take place. That Marner for Klingberg trade. Dallas can't take that due to cap compliance issues. For one Salary Cap has already been stated as staying the same as it was, so that 4 Million comes back down. Yes they could use the offense, but not when you are over the cap space by 4 million dollars. And even tho it is 2021-22 that you are looking at I don't think it's plausible to move up 4 million dollars in cap space when NHL just got hit with a big loss in money.
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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


    You are a robot, programed to troll Marner
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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ryancnbb
    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner


    You thinking Marner is even close to Heiskanen in value is even more of a joke.
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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.
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    cripes
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    I'll tell you what's not gonna take place. That Marner for Klingberg trade. Dallas can't take that due to cap compliance issues. For one Salary Cap has already been stated as staying the same as it was, so that 4 Million comes back down. Yes they could use the offense, but not when you are over the cap space by 4 million dollars. And even tho it is 2021-22 that you are looking at I don't think it's plausible to move up 4 million dollars in cap space when NHL just got hit with a big loss in money.


    Yeah, but he's playing on the second line. Surely that's worth a discount?
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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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    We'll trade you Manson, Rakell, and a week at Disneyland for the whole team during bye week.

    No using the mini-bars, though.
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.
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    Not happening. TOR is not moving Marner for Klinger, nor can Dallas afford such a move...

    Also that Heiskanen contract doesn't work. He's not getting that kind of money with only 4 year term. That money should bring him to a 8 year deal
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    I'll tell you what's not gonna take place. That Marner for Klingberg trade. Dallas can't take that due to cap compliance issues. For one Salary Cap has already been stated as staying the same as it was, so that 4 Million comes back down. Yes they could use the offense, but not when you are over the cap space by 4 million dollars. And even tho it is 2021-22 that you are looking at I don't think it's plausible to move up 4 million dollars in cap space when NHL just got hit with a big loss in money.


    That’s fair. I could lower the cap to maybe 83/83.5 & get Toronto to retain 1.5-2 million of Marner’s contract while adding a third/fourth from Dallas’ end.
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    You are a robot, programed to troll Marner


    Quoting: Ryancnbb
    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner


    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    cripes


    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?


    Take a wild guess as to why people think your marner trade is bad, hint, its the same as it always is
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


    I still don’t see this trade ever working
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?


    They wouldn't. Their offense would be significantly weaker after such a trade.

    Also Rielly and Klingberg as a pair would be terrible to watch on their own end. Neither is exactly a two-way D...
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ryancnbb
    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner


    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. If you wanted Heiskanen it would take Marner++.
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Not happening. TOR is not moving Marner for Klinger, nor can Dallas afford such a move...

    Also that Heiskanen contract doesn't work. He's not getting that kind of money with only 4 year term. That money should bring him to a 8 year deal


    Quoting: justaBoss
    They wouldn't. Their offense would be significantly weaker after such a trade.

    Also Rielly and Klingberg as a pair would be terrible to watch on their own end. Neither is exactly a two-way D...


    I feel Heiskanen & Dahlin are worth 9 Million on a bridge deal. Most likely they’ll get less but for me, they are franchise defencemen so they should get paid like one.

    Obviously the Leafs get weaker losing a star forward in Marner, but I feel overall it’s a more balanced team. Gotta keep in mind they still have 3 elite forwards, plus put Kapanen in the top 6 with Matthews, I’d expect him to produce maybe 50 points as well.

    You’re right about the Rielly-Klingberg pairing. Perhaps they could give Muzzin-Holl or Dermott-DeMelo the tough matchups & Rielly-Klingberg are more sheltered to create offence.
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Take a wild guess as to why people think your marner trade is bad, hint, its the same as it always is


    I agree, it’s not a fair trade value wise, but you’re looking at the whole picture. Not only do they Leafs get Klingberg, they get to sign another top 4 RHD in free agency as well like DeMelo who’s very good. That solidifies the defence corps & puts them in a better position to compete.
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    I agree, it’s not a fair trade value wise, but you’re looking at the whole picture. Not only do they Leafs get Klingberg, they get to sign another top 4 RHD in free agency as well like DeMelo who’s very good. That solidifies the defence corps & puts them in a better position to compete.


    It's not fair value wise. full stop. If you want to argue that cap space, yadda yadda, then you still need to fill in the additional value coming from Dallas.
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?


    They are a contender and you are a robot
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.
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    My boy Mitch Marner has one year that is meh, and everyone trades him for the worst offers of life. The guy was still on pace for 90+ pts in a full season. Stop lowballing him. Look at any other promising young winger, traded after a down year. Doesn’t usually go well
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    I feel Heiskanen & Dahlin are worth 9 Million on a bridge deal. Most likely they’ll get less but for me, they are franchise defencemen so they should get paid like one.

    Obviously the Leafs get weaker losing a star forward in Marner, but I feel overall it’s a more balanced team. Gotta keep in mind they still have 3 elite forwards, plus put Kapanen in the top 6 with Matthews, I’d expect him to produce maybe 50 points as well.

    You’re right about the Rielly-Klingberg pairing. Perhaps they could give Muzzin-Holl or Dermott-DeMelo the tough matchups & Rielly-Klingberg are more sheltered to create offence.


    No, they're not. Franchise players in general don't get signed to bridge deals unless the team is in a big financial doodoo.

    If the elite 4 of d-prospects (Heiskanen, Makar, Hughes, Dahlin) would take bridge deals, the amount would be in the ballpark of what players like Point, Laine and Tkachuk got. That's the whole point of a bridge deal.

    $9M is such an excessive amount (over 10% of the teams cap space) no one in their right mind would consider that a bridge deal money. $9M would make Heiskanen the highest paid LHD in the entire league...
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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.
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    The Leafs are better off with keeping Marner. The cap savings don't make this worth it
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 8:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


    Doesn’t work for me. Marner deal wouldn’t work for either team. Feel like you’re giving Dickinson away for free. Forces Dellandrea and Harley into bigger roles than they may be ready for, etc.

    I know I’ve mentioned possibility of having to go younger and with more internal options than usual vs free agency due to revenue losses, but feel like this could be forcing too many dynamics to change in one offseason.

    Having said that, lot of new territory upon us, so could see some things we’d likely not typically expect from a number of teams including Dallas.
    Jun. 21, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Yeah, but he's playing on the second line. Surely that's worth a discount?


    LOL
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    Jun. 21, 2020 at 8:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    That’s fair. I could lower the cap to maybe 83/83.5 & get Toronto to retain 1.5-2 million of Marner’s contract while adding a third/fourth from Dallas’ end.


    Ok why would Toronto retain? Basically what our saying is do another Phil Kessel deal and we see how much that bit them in the ass the last time.
     
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