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Eichel - ALL PLEASE READ

Created by: Silkysmooth42
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2020
Published: Jun. 22, 2020
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Yall Must Understand how business works, not just hockey

A team that is near the CUP (a contender) is not going to trade their entire team / future away for Eichel, because thats when he ends up on a crappy team in 5 years once they realize they have no prospect pool left

More likely, they would trade to a rebuilding trade, or even a young up and coming team:

Here are three ideas of teams that are getting there, and would build around Eichel:


Then Below are two teams that are serious contenders and WOULD kill themselves for him right now:

POINT IS: Stop tryna make trades with teams that dont make sense. and when someone tells you they dont want it and explains why, dont argue with them lol.
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Hayton, Barrett
  2. Keller, Clayton
  3. Kessel, Phil
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PLUS WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED / THE ARIZONA WOULD GIVE UP

Big piece: Keller
ARI
    Eichel
    2.
    BUF
    1. Andersson, Lias
    2. Kakko, Kaapo
    3. Strome, Ryan
    Additional Details:
    PLUS WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED / THE RANGERS WOULD GIVE UP

    Big piece: Kakko
    3.
    BUF
    1. Barzal, Mathew
    2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
    Additional Details:
    PLUS WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED / THE Islanders WOULD GIVE UP

    Big piece: Barzal
    NYI
      Eichel
      4.
      BUF
      1. Bogosian, Zach
      2. Cirelli, Anthony
      3. Raddysh, Taylor
      Additional Details:
      PLUS WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED / THE Lightning WOULD GIVE UP

      Big piece: BOGO (JK its Cirelli but Bogo4norris)
      TBL
        Eichel

        Its a funny case cuz the Lightning are screwed for cap space and are gonna trade Cirelli anyway probably, but you get the point
        5.
        BUF
        1. Carlo, Brandon
        2. DeBrusk, Jake
        3. Studnicka, Jack
        Additional Details:
        PLUS WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED / THE Bruins WOULD GIVE UP

        Big piece: Stud / Debrusk
        BOS
          Eichel

          Again: another team that its gonna give up Mcavoy, not gonna give up Pasta, probably wont give up Carlo or Debrusk either, but i put them here for the point. They are in win now mode, but still have a solid future with Pasta, Mcavoy, Carlo, Debrusk, Stud, Urho, etc...
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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
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          I don't think Cirelli's gonna get traded
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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          Quoting: MaxDomi13
          I don't think Cirelli's gonna get traded


          Interesting, u think they will make space for him?
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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          You lost me at “yall” and “tryna”. Cant take that seriously sorry.
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.
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          Quoting: Silkysmooth42
          Interesting, u think they will make space for him?


          Yeah

          Johnson/Palat/Killorn/Coburn may waive for their homes
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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:44 p.m.
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          Only one of these I think is possible is the Islanders one since I could see Barzal getting offersheeted
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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          Quoting: Jesus
          Only one of these I think is possible is the Islanders one since I could see Barzal getting offersheeted


          How amazing would that be - Islanders trade Barzal for Eichel, then along Comes Bergevin and Barzal signs the 7 x 12 OS
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.
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          Quoting: Boomer125
          How amazing would that be - Islanders trade Barzal for Eichel, then along Comes Bergevin and Barzal signs the 7 x 12 OS


          Buffalo should just sell the team if that happens
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.
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          Buffalo should just sell the team if that happens


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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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          Bogosian? tears of joy

          hahahahaha
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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 6:19 p.m.
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          Quoting: Jexus
          You lost me at “yall” and “tryna”. Cant take that seriously sorry.


          You just dont speak english lol "Cant take that seriously" is rude and makes no sense
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.
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          Quoting: MaxDomi13
          Yeah

          Johnson/Palat/Killorn/Coburn may waive for their homes


          Fair enough man!

          Hey proves my point even more. Those top teams like the Bruins and Lightning arent throwing everything away for eichel.
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.
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          Quoting: Jesus
          Only one of these I think is possible is the Islanders one since I could see Barzal getting offersheeted


          Quoting: Boomer125
          How amazing would that be - Islanders trade Barzal for Eichel, then along Comes Bergevin and Barzal signs the 7 x 12 OS


          Lol im just saying smile lolol

          Idk man im just tryna help people learn, Boston and Tampa and the Blues etc arent gonna be trade partners / the Isles, Yotes, Rangers, maybe even detriot would be
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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          Quoting: Silkysmooth42
          Fair enough man!

          Hey proves my point even more. Those top teams like the Bruins and Lightning arent throwing everything away for eichel.


          Yaya
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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:08 p.m.
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          @OldNYIfan @bhavikp27 @ConnorMcHellebucyk @McGruff

          Quoting: Jesus
          Only one of these I think is possible is the Islanders one since I could see Barzal getting offersheeted


          Quoting: Boomer125
          How amazing would that be - Islanders trade Barzal for Eichel, then along Comes Bergevin and Barzal signs the 7 x 12 OS


          Quoting: MaxDomi13
          I don't think Cirelli's gonna get traded


          Quoting: Silkysmooth42
          Lol im just saying smile lolol

          Idk man im just tryna help people learn, Boston and Tampa and the Blues etc arent gonna be trade partners / the Isles, Yotes, Rangers, maybe even detriot would be


          All excellent points, people really need to understand the importance of what value their players actually, and not just “ohhh I like my guy so I’m gonna get all these wonderful pieces for him”
          Eichel is incredible, no doubt, but he’s on the block and wants out, and some of those teams do not need him.
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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:25 p.m.
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          Quoting: CatmanV
          OldNYIfan bhavikp27 ConnorMcHellebucyk McGruff All excellent points, people really need to understand the importance of what value their players actually, and not just “ohhh I like my guy so I’m gonna get all these wonderful pieces for him”
          Eichel is incredible, no doubt, but he’s on the block and wants out, and some of those teams do not need him.


          Does he actually want out? All he said was that he was frustrated with all the losing. Doesn't mean he wants out. It can simply mean that BUF needs to make their team better or just trade Eichel.
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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:26 p.m.
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          Quoting: CatmanV
          @OldNYIfan @bhavikp27 @ConnorMcHellebucyk @McGruff

          All excellent points, people really need to understand the importance of what value their players actually, and not just “ohhh I like my guy so I’m gonna get all these wonderful pieces for him”
          Eichel is incredible, no doubt, but he’s on the block and wants out, and some of those teams do not need him.


          True, top clubs seldom put the 'works in the blender' and not all on one guy (even when Gretz was to be traded he requested some Oilers come with)!

          To move 6/7/8 pieces + turn the draft board futures into Swiss cheese is high-stakes gambling Vegas-style baby. And then, 6-games in, have Eichel pull a 'hammy' or blow-out--a-knee or get-bell-rung & it's over for 20-years; capiche!! Plus the crater throughout the organization mofo...Prezzie, GM, Coaches, Scouts all toast...

          It's the trade for lesser/mid-teams or GM's feeling the Wrath of Satan (ie: no bullets left in the chamber before the unemployment line); "Oh and it's UIC standing in the long line, UIC waiting to get ur pogey, UIC..."
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:40 p.m.
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          Quoting: MaxDomi13
          Does he actually want out? All he said was that he was frustrated with all the losing. Doesn't mean he wants out. It can simply mean that BUF needs to make their team better or just trade Eichel.


          Does he want out today? Maybe not, but don't kid yourself if the new GM came up to him and said look we have a good offer on you, we want to keep you but if you want to play in X team we can make that happen - his answer solely rests on which X team has prepared an offer and I'd have to think it's a very short list of "I'm not interested in playing for X team over Buffalo
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          Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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          Quoting: Boomer125
          Does he want out today? Maybe not, but don't kid yourself if the new GM came up to him and said look we have a good offer on you, we want to keep you but if you want to play in X team we can make that happen - his answer solely rests on which X team has prepared an offer and I'd have to think it's a very short list of "I'm not interested in playing for X team over Buffalo


          Ok
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 10:28 p.m.
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          Hey....that Bruins package (Debrusk, Carlo, Studnicka plus whatever else they need the Bruins would give up) looks a whole lot similar to the one I posted last night which you commented on as an "insane overpayment, bruins reject 1000x over". What gives lol?
          Jun. 22, 2020 at 11:06 p.m.
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          Quoting: Survivorking77
          Hey....that Bruins package (Debrusk, Carlo, Studnicka plus whatever else they need the Bruins would give up) looks a whole lot similar to the one I posted last night which you commented on as an "insane overpayment, bruins reject 1000x over". What gives lol?


          Lol fair dawg, But please read the point of my post.

          The point is, VALUE wise its fair (like you are saying), but PIECE wise, its an overpay by the bruins. WHAT I MEAN by that is: Bruins arent trowing away their Cup finalist team and their entire future for Jack Eichel. It just makes no sense.

          So ur right man, i did say that and contradict myself here, but its because i was tryna prove a point here lol

          Good eye tho
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