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Created by: fckmattcooke
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2020
Published: Jun. 22, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
let's figure this thing out baby
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,650,000
2$1,500,000
3$3,700,000
6$5,500,000
2$1,400,000
1$900,000
3$2,750,000
4$2,250,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$4,000,000
5$5,250,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Graves, Ryan [RFA Rights]
  2. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
  3. Ranta, Sampo [Reserve List]
  4. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
2.
BUF
  1. Borgström, Henrik [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (FLA)
3.
BUF
  1. Smith, Zack
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (PIT)
CHI
  1. Johansson, Marcus ($2,000,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,193,334$1,487,500$4,337,500$4,306,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$845,000$845,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,650,000$2,650,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA
$900,000$900,000
C
RFA
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,700,000$3,700,000
RD
UFA - 1
$5,250,000$5,250,000
G
UFA - 6
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$900,000$900,000
C
UFA - 3

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Jun. 22, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.
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What is that Reinhart trade?
Jun. 22, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
What is that Reinhart trade?


A good trade
Jun. 22, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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Quoting: fckmattcooke
A good trade


no
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Jun. 22, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
no


Actually yes and you are wrong
Jun. 22, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.
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Quoting: fckmattcooke
Actually yes and you are wrong


Domi = Reinhart and that doesn't = Domi

you know what lets ask some colorado fans what they think

@moli92 @coga16 @Goavs141 what do you guys think?
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: fckmattcooke
A good trade


😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yeah... for the AVs
Sabres need to win NOW
Last thing they’re doing is trading Eichel’s best friend on the team for depth & futures
Reinhart is Jack’s RW

You’re dreaming
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Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Domi = Reinhart and that doesn't = Domi

you know what lets ask some colorado fans what they think

@moli92 @coga16 @Goavs141 what do you guys think?


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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yeah... for the AVs
Sabres need to win NOW
Last thing they’re doing is trading Eichel’s best friend on the team for depth & futures
Reinhart is Jack’s RW

You’re dreaming


Reinhart is better than Domi, and that is as realistic a package for Reinhart that you'll see on this sight
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Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: fckmattcooke
Reinhart is better than Domi, and that is as realistic a package for Reinhart that you'll see on this sight


Domi for Reinhart is a pretty even trade - they are within 1 pt of each other for the last two years' point production
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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Make the 2020 2nd a third and we accept.
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:07 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Domi for Reinhart is a pretty even trade - they are within 1 pt of each other for the last two years' point production


Imo Reinhart is quite a bit better than Domi
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: fckmattcooke
Imo Reinhart is quite a bit better than Domi


We'll see what coga and moli say, and in the meantime let's bring in some sabres and habs fans to see what they think about reinhart vs domi - @GMs @Sabres923 @BuFfaLOFaN @Tank4McEichel
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
We'll see what coga and moli say, and in the meantime let's bring in some sabres and habs fans to see what they think about reinhart vs domi - @GMs @Sabres923 @BuFfaLOFaN @Tank4McEichel


Do you have any actual criticism of the trade?
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Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: fckmattcooke
Reinhart is better than Domi, and that is as realistic a package for Reinhart that you'll see on this sight


Even if the value is correct,
Buffalo isn’t gonna trade Jack’s linemate & good friend for a package of lesser talent

That would just piss Eichel off even more
And it won’t help us get to the playoffs THIS SEASON

HARD PASS
NOT EVEN CLOSE
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Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
We'll see what coga and moli say, and in the meantime let's bring in some sabres and habs fans to see what they think about reinhart vs domi - @GMs @Sabres923 @BuFfaLOFaN @Tank4McEichel


MTL need a top 6 RW, but BUF doesn’t have any if they trade Reinhart. So end of the conversation, but 1 for 1 is fair value wize
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Even if the value is correct,
Buffalo isn’t gonna trade Jack’s linemate & good friend for a package of lesser talent

That would just piss Eichel off even more
And it won’t help us get to the playoffs THIS SEASON

HARD PASS
NOT EVEN CLOSE


lololol well it's my AGM???
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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MTL need a top 6 RW, but BUF doesn’t have any if they trade Reinhart. So end of the conversation, but 1 for 1 is fair value wize


I mean they absolutely do still have top 6 wingers. And Reinhart is better than Domi
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.
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I really cant see BUF ttading Reinhart unless they also trade for/sign a top 6 forward. But if they went for a complete rebuild I think Dahlin/Joki/Graves would be a solid D foundatuon
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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lololol well it's my AGM???


Ok... it’s just not remotely realistic
You’ve gotta take into account how the deal affects
BOTH SIDES

You clearly aren’t doing that in Buffalo’s case here
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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Quoting: fckmattcooke
Do you have any actual criticism of the trade?


Okay I do

Jost I believe = a 2020 3rd or a 2020 2nd
Ryan Graves = 2020 2nd or late 2020 1st I think
Sampo Ranta = 2020 4th
PLUS a 2020 1st

So pretty much Reinhart for a 2nd, 2nd, 4th, and 1st.
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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I really cant see BUF ttading Reinhart unless they also trade for/sign a top 6 forward. But if they went for a complete rebuild I think Dahlin/Joki/Graves would be a solid D foundatuon


Yeah I'm not even advocating for them to trade Reinhart, but if contract talks go poorly or he wants out, this is what I'd do
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Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.
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Ok... it’s just not remotely realistic
You’ve gotta take into account how the deal affects
BOTH SIDES

You clearly aren’t doing that in Buffalo’s case here


I am doing that. In the event Buffalo wanted to retool things, or contract talks go poorly, if Reinhart were to be traded this is what I would do. I think it would benefit them.
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
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Okay I do

Jost I believe = a 2020 3rd or a 2020 2nd
Ryan Graves = 2020 2nd or late 2020 1st I think
Sampo Ranta = 2020 4th
PLUS a 2020 1st

So pretty much Reinhart for a 2nd, 2nd, 4th, and 1st.


So that isn't how value works at all
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:21 p.m.
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So that isn't how value works at all


What
Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
What


That is completely arbitrary ideas of what each player is worth and also not how team building / trading works. And you still didn't say why you think it's a bad trade. you've just talked about max dome and draft picks
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Jun. 22, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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That is completely arbitrary ideas of what each player is worth and also not how team building / trading works. And you still didn't say why you think it's a bad trade. you've just talked about max dome and draft picks


It's a bad trade because imo he's not worth that
 
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