SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

I dont believe it

Created by: Bruinsforlife
Team: 2020-21 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2020
Published: Jun. 22, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,300,000
3$3,333,333
4$3,250,000
2$800,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
2$8,150,000
Trades
1.
BOS
    Any team
    2.
    BUF
    1. Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob [Reserve List]
    2. Krejci, David
    3. Vaakanainen, Urho
    4. 2021 1st round pick (BOS)
    5. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    2021
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    2022
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the BOS
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$81,557,314$964,222$1,357,500-$57,314
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $6,875,000$6,875,000
    C
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $6,666,667$6,666,667
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $3,333,333$3,333,333
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $2,600,000$2,600,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,498,925$1,498,925
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C, RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $769,167$769,167 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,300,000$1,300,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,275,000$1,275,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $4,900,000$4,900,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $8,150,000$8,150,000
    LD
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $2,850,000$2,850,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $2,250,000$2,250,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $850,000$850,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $800,000$800,000
    RW
    UFA - 2

    Embed Code

    • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
    • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

    Text-Embed

    Click to Highlight
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
    #1
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 4,561
    Likes: 1,266
    Its doable for both teams, but i feel like it might be an underpayment on the bruins part
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
    #2
    v5 CBJ GM
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Feb. 2019
    Posts: 15,922
    Likes: 8,570
    What don't you believe
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:36 p.m.
    #3
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Dec. 2018
    Posts: 2,656
    Likes: 251
    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    Its doable for both teams, but i feel like it might be an underpayment on the bruins part


    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:38 p.m.
    #4
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 4,561
    Likes: 1,266
    Quoting: Bananahockey
    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins


    You are talking to the guy that has been explaining that to everyone lol

    Im just saying that if i think its light, you are gonna get a lot of guys saying its light
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:39 p.m.
    #5
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jul. 2018
    Posts: 4,928
    Likes: 2,670
    Easy not from Buffalo
    MisstheWhalers, dzmets, deleted_x_213212 and 1 other person liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.
    #6
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2019
    Posts: 38,303
    Likes: 19,545
    2 late 1sts, 2 B- prospects, and a 34 year old 2C rental for an elite talent? Eichel starts with McAvoy + Studnicka at least
    dzmets and sabres89 liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 8:12 p.m.
    #7
    Pop Pop
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Feb. 2018
    Posts: 14,593
    Likes: 8,269
    I'm not as in love with eichel as most people are but it doesnt look like a package buffalo would want.
    deleted_x_213212 and sabres89 liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
    #8
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 11,505
    Likes: 4,566
    Thats a prett weak package for Buffalo. JFK is a 3rd liner at best and may never return. Krejci is a pending UFA and Vaak is a solid prospect with top 4 upside. The picks are most likely late round.
    deleted_x_213212 and sabres89 liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
    #9
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2020
    Posts: 513
    Likes: 216
    Quoting: Bananahockey
    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins


    Honestly, who cares? Add Eichel and we're talking potential for multiple cups. Boston is pretty good at drafting and developing (not to mention picking up college and European UFAs). They get a legit top 5 1C and likely don't miss a beat from a cheap talent standpoint.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 8:19 p.m.
    #10
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2020
    Posts: 513
    Likes: 216
    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    Its doable for both teams, but i feel like it might be an underpayment on the bruins part


    Nailed it. Too light. Krejci makes sense as Buffalo can turn around and flip him for more futures. Vaakanainen is a great piece. 1st are real late. WFK doesn't move the needle at all. Studnicka most likely needs to be in any deal. Add maybe one more NHL piece (Carlo or DeBrusk) and that should do it. Would be hard but still not impossible for other teams to beat. Deal as is gets outbid 20 or so times.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 8:23 p.m.
    #11
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 4,561
    Likes: 1,266
    Quoting: Taxtime
    Nailed it. Too light. Krejci makes sense as Buffalo can turn around and flip him for more futures. Vaakanainen is a great piece. 1st are real late. WFK doesn't move the needle at all. Studnicka most likely needs to be in any deal. Add maybe one more NHL piece (Carlo or DeBrusk) and that should do it. Would be hard but still not impossible for other teams to beat. Deal as is gets outbid 20 or so times.


    No now thats too much for the bruins to ever consider, but yeah what he has is too little, its gonna be somewhere in the middle IFFF it were to happen, but ITS NEVER GONNNNNNAAAAA HAPPPPEEEEENNN lololol
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.
    #12
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2020
    Posts: 513
    Likes: 216
    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    No now thats too much for the bruins to ever consider, but yeah what he has is too little, its gonna be somewhere in the middle IFFF it were to happen, but ITS NEVER GONNNNNNAAAAA HAPPPPEEEEENNN lololol


    Anything less, Sabres keep him. Which is almost certainly what's going to happen. Boston might see him in 2026.
    Silkysmooth42 liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
    #13
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2017
    Posts: 1,511
    Likes: 255
    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    No now thats too much for the bruins to ever consider, but yeah what he has is too little, its gonna be somewhere in the middle IFFF it were to happen, but ITS NEVER GONNNNNNAAAAA HAPPPPEEEEENNN lololol


    Idk how Krejci, one of Debrusk/Carlo, Vaak, stud and 2 1sts is considered an overpay. Eichel is an elite talent. Vaak and stud are likely going to be good nhl players. Don’t think either will evolve into anything above that. The 2 1sts are lotto picks with every draft being a toss up. Krejci is a great player but you’re replacing him with eichel for a fraction of the price more contract wise. Giving up Debrusk or Carlo would be a tough pill to swallow, think giving up Carlo would be more detrimental to the line up. But you have to realize it’s a trade for a top 5 center. It isn’t going to be cheap. Bruins don’t really give up anything of significant value unless you place Debrusk and Carlo there but again at best theyre 2nd line/2nd pair type players. I just don’t agree with your valuing of a blockbuster for eichel, I do agree it doesn’t really make sense to make the trade though.
    deleted_x_213212 liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 10:34 p.m.
    #14
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2020
    Posts: 50
    Likes: 10
    Quoting: ngikas
    Idk how Krejci, one of Debrusk/Carlo, Vaak, stud and 2 1sts is considered an overpay. Eichel is an elite talent. Vaak and stud are likely going to be good nhl players. Don’t think either will evolve into anything above that. The 2 1sts are lotto picks with every draft being a toss up. Krejci is a great player but you’re replacing him with eichel for a fraction of the price more contract wise. Giving up Debrusk or Carlo would be a tough pill to swallow, think giving up Carlo would be more detrimental to the line up. But you have to realize it’s a trade for a top 5 center. It isn’t going to be cheap. Bruins don’t really give up anything of significant value unless you place Debrusk and Carlo there but again at best theyre 2nd line/2nd pair type players. I just don’t agree with your valuing of a blockbuster for eichel, I do agree it doesn’t really make sense to make the trade though.


    Quoting: Bananahockey
    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins


    This trade for Eichel isn't even close. You're going to likely have to give up: Beecher, Carlo, Studnicka, Debrusk, 2 1st's. That seems like a lot, I'm sure for Bruins fans. but that's what the market would yield right now for Eichel. You're also going to have to find a trading partner for Krejci to free up cap space. Buffalo isn't looking for a B- 34-yo 2C in an Eichel deal. Honestly though, I still don't think this would get them Eichel.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 10:41 p.m.
    #15
    GM CRIME DAWG
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2019
    Posts: 4,944
    Likes: 2,694
    Quoting: HGStebbins
    This trade for Eichel isn't even close. You're going to likely have to give up: Beecher, Carlo, Studnicka, Debrusk, 2 1st's. That seems like a lot, I'm sure for Bruins fans. but that's what the market would yield right now for Eichel. You're also going to have to find a trading partner for Krejci to free up cap space. Buffalo isn't looking for a B- 34-yo 2C in an Eichel deal. Honestly though, I still don't think this would get them Eichel.


    Any GM who thinks like that ^ ^ ^ is certifiable!
    NHLers gone from Pres Cup team = Carlo, DeBrusk, Krejci (collateral damage from CAP) and I'd argue Stud gets playoff time in 2019-20 if there is one...etc etc....
    tis' RUBBISH...
    Silkysmooth42 liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 10:52 p.m.
    #16
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2020
    Posts: 50
    Likes: 10
    Quoting: McGruff
    Any GM who thinks like that ^ ^ ^ is certifiable!
    NHLers gone from Pres Cup team = Carlo, DeBrusk, Krejci (collateral damage from CAP) and I'd argue Stud gets playoff time in 2019-20 if there is one...etc etc....
    tis' RUBBISH...


    Call it rubbish all you want. That's what the market would bring for Eichel. Just because they are Bruins doesn't make them any more valuable. You're asking to bring in a player with the talent of David Pastrnak who plays center and is locked up for six years. What would it take for the Bruins to trade Pasta? You'd expect at least as much in return.
    deleted_x_213212 liked this.
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 11:02 p.m.
    #17
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 4,561
    Likes: 1,266
    Quoting: Taxtime
    Anything less, Sabres keep him. Which is almost certainly what's going to happen. Boston might see him in 2026.


    Thats what im saying lol, its not gonna happen so idk why people keep trying.

    Quoting: ngikas
    Idk how Krejci, one of Debrusk/Carlo, Vaak, stud and 2 1sts is considered an overpay. Eichel is an elite talent. Vaak and stud are likely going to be good nhl players. Don’t think either will evolve into anything above that. The 2 1sts are lotto picks with every draft being a toss up. Krejci is a great player but you’re replacing him with eichel for a fraction of the price more contract wise. Giving up Debrusk or Carlo would be a tough pill to swallow, think giving up Carlo would be more detrimental to the line up. But you have to realize it’s a trade for a top 5 center. It isn’t going to be cheap. Bruins don’t really give up anything of significant value unless you place Debrusk and Carlo there but again at best theyre 2nd line/2nd pair type players. I just don’t agree with your valuing of a blockbuster for eichel, I do agree it doesn’t really make sense to make the trade though.


    Its an overpay NOT valuewise, but Playerwise. Bruins arent going to break the bank for him. THEY DONT NEED TO, they were a win away from the cup last year (tainted cup) and they are killing it this year. And they have a solid (and underrated) prospect pool. No need for Eichel whatsoever
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 11:06 p.m.
    #18
    GM CRIME DAWG
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2019
    Posts: 4,944
    Likes: 2,694
    Quoting: HGStebbins
    Call it rubbish all you want. That's what the market would bring for Eichel. Just because they are Bruins doesn't make them any more valuable. You're asking to bring in a player with the talent of David Pastrnak who plays center and is locked up for six years. What would it take for the Bruins to trade Pasta? You'd expect at least as much in return.


    6/7 for 1 trades are so 80's....
    Lindros was that kinda trade back in the day and how many cups did he walk away with now??

    Correct! The same as Eichel...
    Jun. 22, 2020 at 11:51 p.m.
    #19
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2017
    Posts: 1,511
    Likes: 255
    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    Its an overpay NOT valuewise, but Playerwise. Bruins arent going to break the bank for him. THEY DONT NEED TO, they were a win away from the cup last year (tainted cup) and they are killing it this year. And they have a solid (and underrated) prospect pool. No need for Eichel whatsoever


    Yeah I agree on that part for sure. I was thinking you meant value wise in the trade my b
    Silkysmooth42 liked this.
    Jun. 23, 2020 at 5:36 a.m.
    #20
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2020
    Posts: 513
    Likes: 216
    Quoting: HGStebbins
    Call it rubbish all you want. That's what the market would bring for Eichel. Just because they are Bruins doesn't make them any more valuable. You're asking to bring in a player with the talent of David Pastrnak who plays center and is locked up for six years. What would it take for the Bruins to trade Pasta? You'd expect at least as much in return.


    It would have to be more. No question.
    Jun. 23, 2020 at 9:38 a.m.
    #21
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 4,561
    Likes: 1,266
    Quoting: ngikas
    Yeah I agree on that part for sure. I was thinking you meant value wise in the trade my b


    U good i was confusing and its a confusing distinction which i am trying to teach everyone rn (buffalo fans with Eichel, and Leafs fans who want Carlo for some reason)
    ngikas liked this.
    Jun. 23, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.
    #22
    MMBzFan
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Apr. 2016
    Posts: 1,111
    Likes: 281
    JFK, playing in Sweden, back in demand.
    Jun. 23, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
    #23
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2020
    Posts: 50
    Likes: 10
    Quoting: McGruff
    6/7 for 1 trades are so 80's....
    Lindros was that kinda trade back in the day and how many cups did he walk away with now??

    Correct! The same as Eichel...


    I’m not going to argue that it’s a lot to give up. I’m not saying the Bruins should make the deal. I’m just saying that’s what the market will be. As far as the 6 for 1 deals not happening anymore... Karlsson and O’Reilly didn’t happen?
    Jun. 23, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
    #24
    GM CRIME DAWG
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2019
    Posts: 4,944
    Likes: 2,694
    Quoting: HGStebbins
    I’m not going to argue that it’s a lot to give up. I’m not saying the Bruins should make the deal. I’m just saying that’s what the market will be. As far as the 6 for 1 deals not happening anymore... Karlsson and O’Reilly didn’t happen?


    Yeah and BUF-SJS had remorse almost instantaneously after-ward cause they c*cked it up...
    Happening is one thing, working and being effective is a whole other deal.
    Those deals are for desperate clubs and GMs (Eichel pull a hammy or worse (like EK)) and the GM is "done"...
     
    Reply
    To create a post please Login or Register
    Question:
    Options:
    Add Option
    Submit Poll