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Fair Eichel Trade

Created by: bdb
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2020
Published: Jun. 22, 2020
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Trying to actually find a fair trade for Eichel. Not a fan of either team.

Not sure if the signings are accurate and the other trade is more about filling holes.
Free Agent Signings
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4$4,000,000
5$5,000,000
5$6,000,000
5$4,000,000
5$5,500,000
3$3,000,000
3$3,000,000
2$1,500,000
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1$800,000
1$800,000
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  1. Hutton, Carter
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
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2020
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2022
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23$81,500,000$81,193,334$1,487,500$4,337,500$306,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$845,000$845,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$4,375,000$4,375,000
RW, C
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UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
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UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 12:01 a.m.
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This is a massive overpay. Eichel is the best player in the trade but Point and one other asset is more than enough.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 12:05 a.m.
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Overpay by Tampa. Point and Sergachev for Miller and Eichel is pretty fair I’d say
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 12:29 a.m.
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Might be an overpay,
but you’d have to overpay to get Eichel
Not only do u need to give up enough to get Buffalo to agree,
you need to have a better offer then EVERY other team that’s making offers... and there would be A LOT
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 12:37 a.m.
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That's a joke.

Eichel is good, but not THAT good.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 12:54 a.m.
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Disagree on the overpay sentiment, Sergachev and Cirelli are nice pieces but still relatively unproven. Point is a beast but Eichel is on another level.

Tampa gets better too in this deal. Be curious to see what sabres and lightning fans think.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 12:58 a.m.
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Might be an overpay,
but you’d have to overpay to get Eichel
Not only do u need to give up enough to get Buffalo to agree,
you need to have a better offer then EVERY other team that’s making offers... and there would be A LOT


And for what Tampa is moving there, they do sooooo much better moving those pieces individually.

It's a massive overpay, one that would never ever be offered.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 1:06 a.m.
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Disagree on the overpay sentiment, Sergachev and Cirelli are nice pieces but still relatively unproven. Point is a beast but Eichel is on another level.

Tampa gets better too in this deal. Be curious to see what sabres and lightning fans think.


I would hardly call Sergachev unproven at this stage of his career. He has absolutely estavlished himself as a top 4 defenseman - and at only 21, there is everybreason to believe he will be top 2. I might agree with you on Cirelli.

However, to ask for both Cirelli and Point is simply overstepping the bounds of making this deal fair. To add Coleman just makes it ridiculous.

I think we all understand it is going to take an outstanding package to land Eichel if he was to move, but if I was Brisebois I would be blocking Kevyn's number after that. Eichel to Point is about a 30 point difference, and certainly doesn't justify the numerous additions.

In short, you asked a Cirelli too much, and offered a player too little.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 1:07 a.m.
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And for what Tampa is moving there, they do sooooo much better moving those pieces individually.

It's a massive overpay, one that would never ever be offered.


Sure they might be able to fetch more trading those players separately but to what end? More picks more depth more prospects? People love asset management and potential but its incredibly rare and package comes close to the impact of Eichel.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 1:07 a.m.
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Disagree on the overpay sentiment, Sergachev and Cirelli are nice pieces but still relatively unproven. Point is a beast but Eichel is on another level.

Tampa gets better too in this deal. Be curious to see what sabres and lightning fans think.


Point's and Eichel's stats for the last two years are pretty much equal. Point gets an edge with playing with better linemates, then again, Eichel plays on average over two minutes per game more than him.

Honestly there's not even that big of a difference between the two.

TB absolutely gets worse after a deal as such.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 1:08 a.m.
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Sure they might be able to fetch more trading those players separately but to what end? More picks more depth more prospects? People love asset management and potential but its incredibly rare and package comes close to the impact of Eichel.


It's incredibly rare to get players with the impact of Sergachev too.

You're trying to sell me a pig with lipstick. It's a brutal offer. Just rework it.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 1:12 a.m.
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I would hardly call Sergachev unproven at this stage of his career. He has absolutely estavlished himself as a top 4 defenseman - and at only 21, there is everybreason to believe he will be top 2. I might agree with you on Cirelli.

However, to ask for both Cirelli and Point is simply overstepping the bounds of making this deal fair. To add Coleman just makes it ridiculous.

I think we all understand it is going to take an outstanding package to land Eichel if he was to move, but if I was Brisebois I would be blocking Kevyn's number after that. Eichel to Point is about a 30 point difference, and certainly doesn't justify the numerous additions.

In short, you asked a Cirelli too much, and offered a player too little.


Appreciate the feedback but..... smile

All of TB players also have the advantage of playing on the deepest most talented team in the league. I agree sergachev is a top 4 dman and Cirelli looks like a top 6 forward but there are many players in the league like that. Will they become more? Eichel is one of the few franchise players in the league.

Coleman is a nice player but a UFA in a year makes him expendable, could easily be a different player that helps make the cap work for TB.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 1:15 a.m.
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I'm just here to say that Vancouver easily declines that deal.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 1:23 a.m.
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Appreciate the feedback but..... smile

All of TB players also have the advantage of playing on the deepest most talented team in the league. I agree sergachev is a top 4 dman and Cirelli looks like a top 6 forward but there are many players in the league like that. Will they become more? Eichel is one of the few franchise players in the league.

Coleman is a nice player but a UFA in a year makes him expendable, could easily be a different player that helps make the cap work for TB.


How do I put this......

Tampa doesn't do that for McDavid. It doesn't matter how deep the team is. You are asking for 4 players under 25 years old, 3 of whom we can argue forms the next core of the team, and seem to have chemistry because they produce.

No team in their right mind moves that sort of depth for a single player. No team. Karlsson (who at the time of that deal was one of the best in the NHL) didn't come remotely close to garnering that package.

You're assesment of the market is off, as is your worth of Eichel's value to Tampa. Brisebois isn't going to blow up his team because Eichel is a possibility. Because after that deal...... Tampa is left with what to go around Eichel?

Again..... take everyone's feedback and rework the deal.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 2:18 a.m.
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And for what Tampa is moving there, they do sooooo much better moving those pieces individually.

It's a massive overpay, one that would never ever be offered.


But they wouldn’t trade those guys unless they were getting an MVP candidate like Eichel
Jun. 23, 2020 at 6:09 a.m.
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How do I put this......

Tampa doesn't do that for McDavid.


Yeah, they do. In a heartbeat. All of those players cam be replaced. McDavid can't be. You wouldn't make a trade like that for Crosby entering his prime? You're out of your damn mind.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 7:54 a.m.
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Very good offer smile
Jun. 23, 2020 at 9:07 a.m.
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Is it an overpay. Honestly not a crazy one i it is at all. But heres the thing. To make this trade happen (no eichel wont actually be traded) its going to be an overpayment. but eichel trades are all rumours
Jun. 23, 2020 at 9:21 a.m.
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Definitely too much.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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TB declines. TB is giving up number one and number two centers, plus top six forward and a top 4 defenseman for one great center, over pay. Our farm system can not fill those holes.
 
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