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No big moves but using our picks

Created by: ColonelX
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 23, 2020
Published: Jun. 23, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
-If Kovy's ready to take a cheap deal again I'm good for giving him a two year deal, low risk.
-Blackwood and Leivo's signatures are very Bergevin's style of UFAs he targets in "July", good bottom six guys.
-With another offseason of training I'm convinced Lindgren can help the team next year.

I know there's lots of money left in the bank and most likely I could offersheet a dude or trade for a dump but didn't feel like it.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$5,000,000
3$950,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
2$1,500,000
1$750,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Suzuki, Ryan
  3. 2021 7th round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Montreal gets an NHL ready LD, pushes back their logjam at center a couple years further and Bergevin loves 7th rounders.
CAR
  1. Hudon, Charles [RFA Rights]
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
New start for Hudon could give big dividend to Carolina, Poehling's a lot closer to the NHL than Suzuki and the Hurricanes are pretty good with their 3rd rounders.
2.
MTL
  1. Beckman, Adam
  2. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
I don't know if I'll get shredded for this one as I'm not sure of Beckman's value. He was the leading scorer in the OHL last year but is still a couple years away from the league, I give the Wild a little bump in the draft for the upside difference.
MIN
  1. Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
If the Wild goes out and trade Brodin, Mete could slide right in with Dumba as a cheap top 4 defender. He'll be able to learn from a player that play's a pretty similar game in Spurgeon.
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the MIN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the OTT
2021
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CAR
2022
Logo of the MTL
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Logo of the MTL
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$70,736,309$0$1,137,500$10,763,691
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 23, 2020 at 9:51 a.m.
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If you drop Suzuki and Hudon, there's a deal to be made there. Obviously things would need re-arranging, but Carolina aren't giving up Suzuki for nothing. However, Bean to MTL is a viable move. Not for Poehling per se, but in general.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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Wild aren't trading Beckman for that. They have enough defensive depth that moving Brodin wouldn't gut their defense, so they don't need Mete.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
If you drop Suzuki and Hudon, there's a deal to be made there. Obviously things would need re-arranging, but Carolina aren't giving up Suzuki for nothing. However, Bean to MTL is a viable move. Not for Poehling per se, but in general.

So basically the only thing correct in this deal is trading Bean to Montreal pretty much.

Quoting: JayTea
Wild aren't trading Beckman for that.

As I explained I do not know Beckman's exact value, would you mind sharing what the Wild fanbase would be tempted by?
Jun. 23, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.
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As I explained I do not know Beckman's exact value, would you mind sharing what the Wild fanbase would be tempted by?


Without having any idea what the Habs have in their prospect system, their biggest need is a top 6 center. They really only have Khovanov in their pipeline as a guy who projects to be a top 6 player. That being said, I think Beckman is one of the most valued prospects they have so they wouldn't let him go cheaply.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: ColonelX
So basically the only thing correct in this deal is trading Bean to Montreal pretty much.


As I explained I do not know Beckman's exact value, would you mind sharing what the Wild fanbase would be tempted by?


Uh, sort of? Poehling for Suzuki is a lateral move, and Bean for Hudon and 2 3rds just isn't right value wise. Idea is right, execution is not.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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Quoting: JayTea
Without having any idea what the Habs have in their prospect system, their biggest need is a top 6 center. They really only have Khovanov in their pipeline as a guy who projects to be a top 6 player. That being said, I think Beckman is one of the most valued prospects they have so they wouldn't let him go cheaply.


Building off of what JayTea said, I think we would only trade Beckman in a package for a 1C. The only LD we would possibly trade for are prospects coming back in return for an NHL player. We have NHL ready LD and some RD that can play off-hand. What we do lack are the next wave of LD (in addition to obviously Goalies and Centers). Not sure if that helps you for future Armchair GM posts!
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Uh, sort of? Poehling for Suzuki is a lateral move, and Bean for Hudon and 2 3rds just isn't right value wise. Idea is right, execution is not.

Yes it is a lateral move indeed but you're saving 2 years of development which makes the scale tip a little over your side, I admit that the Bean side's a little lean but obviously could give a better pick or better prospect coming back.

Quoting: mnwild1790
Building off of what JayTea said, I think we would only trade Beckman in a package for a 1C. The only LD we would possibly trade for are prospects coming back in return for an NHL player. We have NHL ready LD and some RD that can play off-hand. What we do lack are the next wave of LD (in addition to obviously Goalies and Centers). Not sure if that helps you for future Armchair GM posts!

Those are some A+ explanations boi! Would need to be quite an heavy package to get a 1C, let me guess Domi and a 3rd for Beckman and your 1st? Tired of seeing these Domi trades everywhere but just chit-chatting here. I thought that immediate help would be needed to close the gap left from Brodin and to be honest I was just looking for a team to send Mete to.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 11:31 a.m.
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Quoting: ColonelX
Those are some A+ explanations boi! Would need to be quite an heavy package to get a 1C, let me guess Domi and a 3rd for Beckman and your 1st? Tired of seeing these Domi trades everywhere but just chit-chatting here. I thought that immediate help would be needed to close the gap left from Brodin and to be honest I was just looking for a team to send Mete to.


Haha thanks man. I tend to get a bit overboard on explanations, but I'm glad you appreciated it. In that scenario I think that's fair. I'm not a huge fan of Domi but we have a ton of good wing prospects so I wouldn't mind trying to move Beckman in a package to get him. Wild brass and most fans would probably say yes to that trade. I personally wouldn't, but that's just my opinion. I'd rather keep the 11OA and rebuttal with Beckman and 2020 1st PIT for Domi. I don't think you'd go for that though, am I correct?

And I'm guessing you guys have an abundance of NHL ready LDs? That makes sense then trying to move Mete. The reason why we might potentially move Brodin is because we have currently 7 D at the NHL level that play pretty well within our system, plus 2 more down in Iowa who deserve a shot in the NHL very soon. So although losing Brodin would be huge because he truly is more talented than people think, we have enough capable defense to fill the void. Sorry we can't be of assistance in helping you out with Mete!
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 11:52 a.m.
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Quoting: mnwild1790
Building off of what JayTea said, I think we would only trade Beckman in a package for a 1C. The only LD we would possibly trade for are prospects coming back in return for an NHL player. We have NHL ready LD and some RD that can play off-hand. What we do lack are the next wave of LD (in addition to obviously Goalies and Centers). Not sure if that helps you for future Armchair GM posts!


So Domi + Harris + 2020 2nd (STL) for Bean + Suzuki + 2020 3nd (BUF) could work for both sides IMO Carolina gets a top 6 Center + very good LD prospect + a third pick in the top 2 rounds of a deep draft.
Jun. 23, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.
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I'd rather keep the 11OA and rebuttal with Beckman and 2020 1st PIT for Domi. I don't think you'd go for that though, am I correct?

Correct, 25-ish (As it stands right now) is too low and 11 seems a little high that's why I accompagnied Domi with a 3rd as there's good gems in this round usually, feeling like a 2nd's too high doe.
Montreal: They like that trade because they'd get a goalscorer in Beckman and could draft Jack Quinn with this pick, using their overflow of centers to get two bonafide scorer is a deal I'd make any day.
Wild: They finally get a top line center to take over Staal duties, maybe not the best 1C but a guy that's still able to play in this role and rack up a large amount of point. He's got enough grit to play in the west so that's a bonus. Finally they could try to get a gem in the third round like Trineev or Nickl, you never know!

Quoting: mnwild1790
And I'm guessing you guys have an abundance of NHL ready LDs?

Not a ton but with the arrival of Romanov and the other trade bringin Bean in it gives us 5 LDs signed to NHL contracts, could've also just left Mete as a scratch but I feel the kid deserves to play.

Quoting: Campabee
could work for both sides

You're mixing the teams up there! To be fair it works out a lot more for Carolina than it works for Montreal, if I'm trading Domi I don't want to see him four times every year so I'd send him out in the west, also I feel like you're coming on the short side value wise, I don't think you'd fetch Harris in this deal.
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Jun. 23, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
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Habs don't want/need Bean
Mete and Romanov will play LD on 2nd/3rd pairings next season
 
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