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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 24, 2020
Published: Jun. 24, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
2$2,450,000
2$850,000
2$4,000,000
4$4,000,000
6$7,000,000
2$800,000
2$2,650,000
4$3,750,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Couture, Logan
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time to realize having 46.75 million tied up in 6 aging players isn't smart
SJS
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
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lottery protected
2.
BUF
  1. Bratt, Jesper [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (ARI)
  3. 2021 5th round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,687,500$1,487,500$4,337,500$812,500

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 3
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$850,000$850,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
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UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$864,166$864,166
RD
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C
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 8:48 a.m.
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I like this deal with New Jersey smile
Jun. 24, 2020 at 8:51 a.m.
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So of the aging players on the Sharks, they trade Couture???? tears of joy
Jun. 24, 2020 at 8:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Trickster
So of the aging players on the Sharks, they trade Couture???? tears of joy


they should trade more than just couture.

but I don't see any of those contracts bringing back a 1st and a good prospect. Each year that goes by, these guys will be harder and harder to trade and then they will septuple down and pay hertl at age 29
Jun. 24, 2020 at 8:56 a.m.
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this forward group is powerful but the defense and goaltending still sketches me out
Jun. 24, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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I like this deal with New Jersey smile


Unlike the Devils. Hard pass on that offer.
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: chloewoj
this forward group is powerful but the defense and goaltending still sketches me out


Ullmark plays 50-55 games instead of 35, and hutton has his vision issue solved. I'm ok with that

Defense is fine, was already better this year and i got rid of the biggest problem and brought in a good 2 way 2C to help.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:02 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Ullmark plays 50-55 games instead of 35, and hutton has his vision issue solved. I'm ok with that

Defense is fine, was already better this year and i got rid of the biggest problem and brought in a good 2 way 2C to help.


Did Hutton pay you money? Because without any problems without vision he played bad games. And if the vision problem suddenly comes back, I don’t understand why take such a risk, it’s strange.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:04 a.m.
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Did Hutton pay you money? Because without any problems without vision he played bad games. And if the vision problem suddenly comes back, I don’t understand why take such a risk, it’s strange.


I'm not sure I'd call a backup goalie "such a risk"

I don't think the Sabres are solving every issue they have this offseason.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:08 a.m.
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I'm not sure I'd call a backup goalie "such a risk"

I don't think the Sabres are solving every issue they have this offseason.


Well, as it turned out this season, Ulmark was solid, but he sometimes gets hurt, Hutton can no longer be considered even a reliable backup due to his strange history. I think solving the problem of the backup goalie is not so difficult even for Adams, in a free agency there will be 4-5 guys who are suitable for us.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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Well, as it turned out this season, Ulmark was solid, but he sometimes gets hurt, Hutton can no longer be considered even a reliable backup due to his strange history. I think solving the problem of the backup goalie is not so difficult even for Adams, in a free agency there will be 4-5 guys who are suitable for us.


I guess we disagree on the severity of the issue (not to mention how fickle goaltending is, the year before with among the worst defenses in the NHL hutton had an almost league average .908 save percentage).

im ready to move on when you are.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:18 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I guess we disagree on the severity of the issue (not to mention how fickle goaltending is, the year before with among the worst defenses in the NHL hutton had an almost league average .908 save percentage).

im ready to move on when you are.


Well, even Jack doesn't think Hutton is a reliable guy, unlike the same Ullmark. smile
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:55 a.m.
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you would need to send this years pick to get couture
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.
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you would need to send this years pick to get couture


i disagree. hes 31, has 56 million coming his way through age 38 and coming off a major injury. getting a 1st and a prospect and not taking money back is plenty.
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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Devils decline very quickly
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
i disagree. hes 31, has 56 million coming his way through age 38 and coming off a major injury. getting a 1st and a prospect and not taking money back is plenty.


yes but from the looks of it the sharks are not trying to rebuild yet. They are going to go at it next year and see what happens. If they start rebuilding then maby this is a possibility
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
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Sharks will pass but thanks for the offer!
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.
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Thats a big no thanks from SJ and youre not even close!
Jun. 24, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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Thats a big no thanks from SJ and youre not even close!


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Sharks will pass but thanks for the offer!


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yes but from the looks of it the sharks are not trying to rebuild yet. They are going to go at it next year and see what happens. If they start rebuilding then maby this is a possibility


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i disagree. hes 31, has 56 million coming his way through age 38 and coming off a major injury. getting a 1st and a prospect and not taking money back is plenty.


If that is the approach the Sharks are taking they have several years of misery on the horizon. They already have two of the worst contracts in the league with Jones and Vlasic and in a couple of years a few more that will likely be looking that way Burns, Karlsson and Couture. On top of that they have no high end prospects or draft picks to speak of to fill in the rest of their roster on smaller contracts. Yikes.
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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If that is the approach the Sharks are taking they have several years of misery on the horizon. They already have two of the worst contracts in the league with Jones and Vlasic and in a couple of years a few more that will likely be looking that way Burns, Karlsson and Couture. On top of that they have no high end prospects or draft picks to speak of to fill in the rest of their roster on smaller contracts. Yikes.


Yes yes we hear it from the experts on here constantly thanks for the originality have a good day bye now.
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 1:37 p.m.
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Yes yes we hear it from the experts on here constantly thanks for the originality have a good day bye now.


You don't have to be an expert to see the obvious
Jun. 24, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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If that is the approach the Sharks are taking they have several years of misery on the horizon. They already have two of the worst contracts in the league with Jones and Vlasic and in a couple of years a few more that will likely be looking that way Burns, Karlsson and Couture. On top of that they have no high end prospects or draft picks to speak of to fill in the rest of their roster on smaller contracts. Yikes.


I assume you think Buffalo is in a better position for the future?
Jun. 24, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.
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I assume you think Buffalo is in a better position for the future?


For this year probably not. For the next several I would say yes. The Sabres have a good amount of young talent that will likely develop into better players in the next couple of years. The Sharks best players are all at a point where it is reasonable to expect a steady decline in their play over the next few years. I would expect that this past season was a bit of a one off for them due to all of their injuries and I would expect them if mostly healthy this upcoming season to be right on the playoff bubble in the West. Now certainly it is possible that the Sharks hit on a bunch of later picks and the Sabres prospects and picks all end up being flops and their young talent could regress as opposed to develop further in which case the Sharks will be better. But it is much more likely that the Sabres roster will further develop while the Sharks roster continues to regress unless they move out some of their older talent for futures.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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For this year probably not. For the next several I would say yes. The Sabres have a good amount of young talent that will likely develop into better players in the next couple of years. The Sharks best players are all at a point where it is reasonable to expect a steady decline in their play over the next few years. I would expect that this past season was a bit of a one off for them due to all of their injuries and I would expect them if mostly healthy this upcoming season to be right on the playoff bubble in the West. Now certainly it is possible that the Sharks hit on a bunch of later picks and the Sabres prospects and picks all end up being flops and their young talent could regress as opposed to develop further in which case the Sharks will be better. But it is much more likely that the Sabres roster will further develop while the Sharks roster continues to regress unless they move out some of their older talent for futures.

The sabres were supposed to have young talent arise for about 6 years now, and the sharks were supposed to need to rebuild in 2010. I think I’ll take my chances
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Jun. 24, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.
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The sabres were supposed to have young talent arise for about 6 years now, and the sharks were supposed to need to rebuild in 2010. I think I’ll take my chances


In 2010 the Sharks had the former 9th o/a pick in Logan Couture, a 22 year old Vlasic who had established himself as a good NHL defenseman, a 25 year Joe Pavelski coming off a 51 point season to build around. The only young player that growth can be expected out of from your current team is timo meier.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: dzmets
If that is the approach the Sharks are taking they have several years of misery on the horizon. They already have two of the worst contracts in the league with Jones and Vlasic and in a couple of years a few more that will likely be looking that way Burns, Karlsson and Couture. On top of that they have no high end prospects or draft picks to speak of to fill in the rest of their roster on smaller contracts. Yikes.


Quoting: dzmets
In 2010 the Sharks had the former 9th o/a pick in Logan Couture, a 22 year old Vlasic who had established himself as a good NHL defenseman, a 25 year Joe Pavelski coming off a 51 point season to build around. The only young player that growth can be expected out of from your current team is timo meier.


You guys are not far off! Sharks have some scary contracts and are looking at a brutal 5-10 year span till they are able to compete again, so I get our hope to remain Competitive.
That being said this would be an ideal start for us to speed up a rebuild/retool we need prospects talent and draft capitol you get this for couture you’ll get more for Hertl and a ransom for Meir and you start the rebuild.
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